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DO NOT like Strap On and Toys, how to tell HER?

 
 
gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 09:06 am
How is it possible that Slappy has not yet discovered this thread?
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Questioner
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 09:11 am
td8181,

You've gotten some good advice. TALK to her about it. In any relationship there must be a minimum level of respect granted to both parties for it to be successful. If you take umbrage with something that your partner is doing, you not only have the right, but arguable an obligation to bring it up to your partner and discuss it.

Leaving something that bothers you to fester without talking about it will only ruin any chance of a happy relationship with this individual.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 09:17 am
I agree that a frank and open talk with your partner is essential. There is no "right" or "wrong" about having different sexual expectations. To me, subjecting you to something that you find so aversive is not particularly loving on your partner's part.

Talk, talk, talk, and try to get to the bottom of not only why you feel this way, but also why your partner is insisting on it. The only way that this relationship will last is if there is open communication, and the both of you understand each other's feelings. Good luck!
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flushd
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 09:51 am
Yup. Talk is the way to go. It is so important, and sex is always better when there is communication too.

There may be a way the two of you can both be happy. Strive for that - if you care about her. If you discover that the two of you are simply incompatible in bed, then you can make your choice.

Good luck. Don't be afraid to say how you feel.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 03:16 pm
Another suggestion: seek advice from other lesbians. I don't think the straight women here understand what is at play here. There are plenty of lesbian forums out there to get the right guidance.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 03:23 pm
How bout you just say "Listen, I don't like toys. Can't we just enjoy each other's bodies like they are?"

If she can't accept that, there isn't any hope for the two of you.

Think about it like you would a man wanting a woman to have anal sex. In fact, check out the way people responded to that thread. She shouldn't pressure you to do anything sexually you don't want to do. Period.

You've been more than clear in your not wanting these things in your bed. She has made herself clear as well. If both of you feel like you can't give up and give in without regret, you shouldn't be together. There is no way this thing is just going to go away.

I think your girlfriend is being selfish and I think you have a right to say that you will not accept toys in your bed any longer. If she wants to be there, then she comes alone. If not, then you are better off without her.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 03:39 pm
Ha! I first thought boomerang has hit the jack pot with
another headline, and then this Laughing

I have no advice, sorry, I would ......oh better not.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 03:47 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
How bout you just say "Listen, I don't like toys. Can't we just enjoy each other's bodies like they are?"

If she can't accept that, there isn't any hope for the two of you.

Think about it like you would a man wanting a woman to have anal sex. In fact, check out the way people responded to that thread. She shouldn't pressure you to do anything sexually you don't want to do. Period.
In a perfect world perhaps, in the real world I find your assertions to be very dubious indeed.

1) Unless of course you are willing to claim that you have never done anything in your entire life that was not 100% what you wanted, when you wanted, and why you wanted, in a sexual sense.

2) Unless of course you are willing to claim that you have always immediately left any relationship in which there was a sexual environ which was not 100% what you wanted, when you wanted, and why you wanted.

3) Assuming you have rigidly followed 1) and 2) for your entire life you must then be willing to claim that your beliefs must apply to everyone else.

Also some may argue that talking may be all we have, but I would argue that is certainly not the case, and in fact talking is very overrated. Of course on a forum such as this it's talking or nothing.

.............Actions & Words.................
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 03:50 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
Ha! I first thought boomerang has hit the jack pot with
another headline, and then this Laughing

I have no advice, sorry, I would ......oh better not.
I know you wanna :wink:
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 03:53 pm
Roxxxanne wrote:
Another suggestion: seek advice from other lesbians. I don't think the straight women here understand what is at play here. There are plenty of lesbian forums out there to get the right guidance.
By far the best advice in this whole thread. I 100% agree. The subtleties and implications of the kind of sexual dynamic cannot be well understood by straight women.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 03:55 pm
No, no, Chumly. Since I have no experience with Lesbian love,
I cannot give advice (which I dispense otherwise freely and unsolicited) but if needed I probably would prefer a strap-on too.
Then again, that's why I am heterosexual.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 03:57 pm
Chumly wrote:

1) Unless of course you are willing to claim that you have never done anything in your entire life that was not 100% what you wanted, when you wanted, and why you wanted, in a sexual sense.


I'll try it once and if I don't like it, I don't do it. I don't owe my husband anything. Neither does he owe me. I am not obligated to do anything sexually. Neither is he.

Why should she be unhappy? Only one person is allowed to be happy in this relationship? This isn't a once in a while deal. This is not "hey let's try something new." This is all the time. And again, why should her partner be happy and not her?

Chumly wrote:

2) Unless of course you are willing to claim that you have always immediately left any relationship in which there was a sexual environ which was not 100% what you wanted, when you wanted, and why you wanted.


If I was pressured to do something I didn't want to do, and was literally forced to participate in it or not have sex with my partner, you can bet your ass I'd leave. That shows a lot about how much that person values you and cares about your needs.

It shows that td8181's partner coldn't give two shits about how td8181 feels about sex. Her partner only cares that she is satisfied and happy.

Chumly wrote:

3) Assuming you have rigidly followed 1) and 2) for your entire life you must then be willing to claim that your beliefs must apply to everyone else.


I have never had to deal with that because I've been upfront with my partners about what I will and will not accept. I've never had someone think so little of me that they'd ignore my sexual needs and wants to fulfill their own or ignore my request to keep certain sexual practices out of the bedroom.

My beliefs are my beliefs but I hold firm in believeing that everyone has a right to be happy and control what happens to their own bodies. Neither of which this woman is allowing td8181.

Chumly wrote:

Also some may argue that talking may be all we have, but I would argue that is certainly not the case, and in fact talking is very overrated. Of course on a forum such as this it's talking or nothing.


If talking is so overrated, why is it that all the happily married couples I know, say they keep it together for 50+ years by talking to each other?
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td8181
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 06:02 pm
Re: DO NOT like Strap On and Toys, how to tell HER?
Roxxxanne wrote:
td8181 wrote:
OK. First of all, thanks for reading, and second of all this can be a very sensitive topic, so I hope those that are Heterosexual here, please don't make a joke out of it.
OK: Situation.
I have a GF, we Lesbian. First of all, I am Gay, I do not like "Dick", male part. That's why I am Lesbian.
I don't mind kissing, foreplay, carressing a woman, Oral sex.....etc.... with my GF or she do it to me.
BUt ehre come the big problem. She likes Toys, Strap on and lately she want to **** me with strap on. OK, Now we argue. I told her, I do not want strap on.........anyways, strap on is like u know fake d-i-c-k, if she going to **** me with that, it is heterosexual sex, TO ME. And I don't want to engage in any hetero sex act.........not that I have anything against hetero, but I just prefer the strap on or Didlo NOT inside me......
and yeah, that the situtation, I dont like to do it and she want me to do it.......so there we go,w aht should I do??? i mean am not gonna do it, am just not, period...........bottom line, we break up.



Doesn't sound like you two are compatible sexually. I would take issue that using a strap-on is a heterosexual sex act. It is very common maybe even the norm. I might even suggest counseling to open yourself up sexually. I am guessing that you may have been sexually assaulted by a man in the past and you associate that with your girlfriend's "penis."


what the heck are you talking about? are you assuming or generalizing here? no, i have not been assaut by men in the past, in fact, I don't even date men. I know since at a young age that I was a lesbian.....
I suggest you shouldn't label people like this because it is rude, how do you feel if I said that you get rape when you were little,that why now you this and you that......
well just ought to let you know, gay and lesbian mean people that attract to the same sex, sexually......so i don't think that it is weird for me to be lesbian and don't like men penis..........am sure you a straight woman, you don't like women vagina neither.......
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 06:02 pm
They are interesting points, but I don't want to distort this thread nor exempt any small remaining chance the poster might have in finding a snippet of congruency, plus I am really hungry. Let's should start a new thread called "it's my body and I'll cry if I want to" Smile
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td8181
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 06:03 pm
and chumly, thanks for your advice but may I ask are you a male or female??
and do you mind if you go back to page 2 and delete your REPEATED post, becuase you post a same thing for 7 times in there, I think people got your point......
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 06:10 pm
I am male, but my fist wife was bisexual, as have been some others, as am I, so without sounding pretentious, I know not everything is as it seems.

You would have to ask the moderator to remove the extra posts, I cannot do it Sad

I did not post 7 times, it was some sort of website error!

Cheers,
Chum
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 06:26 pm
td8181 - I don't think it much matters what straight, bi, or lesbian women, or straight, bi, or gay men think is the norm, or appropriate.

In my opinion, what matters is that you're in a relationship where you feel safe and comfortable and respected. If that is not happening for you, and the relationship matters to you, then you need to really spend some time communicating with your partner.

I've read that for a relationship to be successful each partner needs to put in 75%. You have to save something for yourself - and still end up with 150% for the relationship.

Maybe that's a bit corny, but I like the idea, and my experience is that it works for me (sometimes putting myself first, sometimes putting my partner first, and often putting the relationship first).
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 06:55 pm
ehBeth wrote:
In my opinion, what matters is that you're in a relationship where you feel safe and comfortable and respected.
There are many of all sexual persuasions who would find that view too bland; to the point of old shoes; wittiness all the "extra" activity.
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InTraNsiTiOn
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 06:56 pm
Ehbeth, I think you nailed it! Excellent advise!
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 07:02 pm
Chumly - I'm personally a fan of all sorts of "extra activity" - but it's got to be what the partners agree to.
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