Cycloptichorn wrote:There is no law against wearing T-shirts inside. The Bushies would have been better served to let her stay while wearing it; she would have looked silly.
Is there a law prohibiting what she did? Or have we decided that the 1st amendment is outdated as well?
Cycloptichorn
well, gee cyclo... like FISA, the constitution is an
old law..
Ticomaya wrote:revel wrote:You sure are hung up on the superficials, tico.
Where'd you get that idea? Just because I think Cindy Sheehan looks like Nick Nolte, and Michael Moore tends to resemble Jabba the Hut?
Hung up on the superficials? Me? Perish the thought.
tico !! dude !!! ya forgot the pix of dick cheney, denny hastert, henry hyde andddddd... jerry falwell. 
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ya gonna see gilmour on this tour ?
Ticomaya wrote:DontTreadOnMe wrote:the democrats aren't in much of position to obstruct anything.
No, but some of them sure as hell do their best. :wink:
hahahahahaaa!! yeah! well, there is that pesky
half of the country that voted for the other guy...
DontTreadOnMe wrote:ya gonna see gilmour on this tour ?
Hadn't heard about it. Have they announced a schedule yet?
Ticomaya wrote:DontTreadOnMe wrote:ya gonna see gilmour on this tour ?
Hadn't heard about it. Have they announced a schedule yet?
yeah. i haven't looked it up, but the wife says february here in lala land. she even tried to get tickets for my b-day. but alas, sold out. even at the whopping $130 a head.
new album out in march. mrs. dtom saw some list of the guys playing on it and said it was a great bunch.
on a similar note, have ya heard the new kate bush cd ? unbelievable.
Rex wrote
Quote:YOUR OPINION IS PART OF THE RADICAL MINORITY... the America haters... I hope that brings pride in your country and the world of tomorrow will look back and see the partisan special interest politics of the left and spit...
Typical right wing BS. Disagree with the actions of Bush the angel of death and his lemmings will cry anti-American. What is anti-American is the way he treats the constitution of the US, the one he labeled just a piece of paper? I did not spend three years in the armed forces to protect that piece of paper to see the would be dictator violate what it stands for.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/01/sheehan.arrest/index.html
Police admit that they were wrong to remove Sheehan, case closed.
I guess it's "anti-American" to expect the proper laws and regulations to be followed, these days.
Cycloptichorn
Oh my God... please don't let Rexred see this....it'll crush him
Cycloptichorn wrote:Quote:Shw was welcome to wear`that t-shirt outside. Nothing has happened to free speech. Not only should she have been arrested, but the fashion police should have slapped her around as well.
It's the state of the union address, not a street performance. Decorum please.
There is no law against wearing T-shirts inside. The Bushies would have been better served to let her stay while wearing it; she would have looked silly.
Is there a law prohibiting what she did? Or have we decided that the 1st amendment is outdated as well?
Cycloptichorn
Cy,
I hate to tell you this, but they also threw out the wife of a Republican Congressman that had a pro-Bush T-Shirt on as well. There are rules of decorum, and they enforced them equally. This is a non-issue.
Anon
The apology probably came because that Republican Congressman hit the wall and made them apologize to his wife, therefore, they had to apologize to Sheehan for style points.
Anon
I don't see what difference it makes if that republican husband of the wife wearing the support the troops hit the roof or not regarding the police apologizing to Sheehan. (I am pretty sure) the republican wife was merely told to leave, not arrested and escorted away in handcuffs.
In any case, apologies should be made to both of them, this is a free country. The police said she didn't violate any rules or laws so there must not have been any rules in place concerning clothing.
About Sheehan and her visit to that hugo fellow, I think she has gotten caught up in her own publicity and has gone over the edge. However, this issue has nothing to do with her as a person but just as a United States citizen and the constitution. Also it is certainly not treason to be against the war and say so publicly.
So much for Bush's new found conviction that"Americans addition to oil.
Note particularly the highlighted paragraphs.
Quote:
Oil's quiet on Senate front
Energy bigs snub hearing day after Prez's 'addict' jab
BY MICHAEL McAULIFF
and KENNETH R. BAZINET
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
WASHINGTON - A day after President Bush declared America is "addicted" to oil, big oil execs thumbed their nose at a Senate hearing called yesterday to grill them about their record profits.
And Bush showed little sympathy for cash-strapped consumers of gasoline and home heating oil in the face of chart-busting profits for energy companies.
"There is a marketplace in American society," Bush said. "I think that basically the price is determined by the marketplace and that's the way it should be."
The Senate Judiciary Committee hearing was called to weigh the impact on prices of the oil industry's consolidation to just a handful of companies.
One of those companies, ExxonMobil, reported last week profits of $36 billion last year, the most ever by any U.S. company.
But the execs begged off, saying they were busy.
"If we need to issue subpoenas, we can do that," said an angry Judiciary Committee Chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.).
"We face enormous problems which are impacting in an overwhelming way on Americans at the gas pump, at heating oil, and we intend to do something about it," Specter said.
Bush vowed in his State of Union speech Tuesday that he also planned to do something about the country's reliance on oil, especially foreign oil.
But critics of the President were skeptical.
Playing off Bush's own words, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) accused the Bush administration of being "addicted to oil companies." Bush is a former Texas oilman, and Vice President Cheney ran energy giant Halliburton before joining the administration.
About 62% of oil consumed by Americans is from foreign sources, up from 58% in 2000, when Bush took office. Americans now spend $200,000 a minute on foreign oil, and more than $25 billion annually goes to Persian Gulf States for oil imports, according to an analysis from the liberal Center for American Progress.
Bush's newfound desire to wean the U.S. off oil and gas comes after years of his spurning incentives for consumers who use alternative energy, like solar panels and fuel storage cells. Instead, Bush has created an estimated $11 billion in tax credits and incentives for corporations that conduct alternative energy research, conservation watchdogs said. Many of those companies are the major oil companies like ExxonMobil.
"The shortsighted obsession of a few politicians has distracted us long enough from finding real energy solutions," said Wilderness Society President William Meadows.
In addition, Bush has done an about-face on the idea of requiring utilities to use a percentage of renewable energy sources to fuel their plants.
Just last June, the White House killed a measure in the energy bill that would have mandated that power companies use a minimum of 10% renewable energy sources by 2020.
The administration also angered conservationists by agreeing to only slight increases to the minimum mileage required for popular SUVs and light trucks. Originally published on February 2, 2006
Don't do as I do, do as I say.This is a political barnstorming trip paid for by you tax dollar.
Bush on move is Guzzler in Chief
BY KENNETH R. BAZINET
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
WASHINGTON - President Bush is one of the biggest gas guzzlers in the country and his first stop to sell the idea of breaking the nation's oil addiction burned up thousands of gallons of jet fuel and hundreds of gallons of gasoline.The White House, Air Force and Secret Service keep a tight hold on the President's travel and mileage, but government and industry figures show that the Air Force One 747 jet gets less than the equivalent of a mile per gallon.
The President usually travels with a backup 747 as well as a huge C-17 aircraft packed with the presidential limo and the Marine One helicopter, which flies Bush from the White House to Andrews Air Force Base and around destination cities.
The C-17 gets even worse mileage than the 747s, and the chopper's mileage is pegged at .014 mpg.
Once on the ground, the President travels in a gas-gulping convoy. At the heart of that convoy are two Cadillac limos and several Chevy Suburbans.
Even without the bulletproof shields and other special measures, the limos get 18 mpg in the city.
The Suburbans get 15 mpg in the city, but that too is without the bullet- and blast-proofing and the communications gear the Secret Service and military travel with. Three to five Suburbans travel in a motorcade, which often stretches to more than a dozen vehicles.
Bush's 700-mile trip to give his State of the Union encore speech in Nashville yesterday cost $19,594.25 in fuel alone just for Air Force One, according to government figures.
He will carry his message over the next few days to Maplewood, Minn., Albuquerque and Dallas before heading back to Washington. That's another 4,341 miles.
Must be a slow news day.
So from now on, every President MUST use VIEDO CONFERENCING and NEVER EVER face the people.
woiyo
Get TV time. Dumbo can read the same speech on it as he can in person. Of course he won't have a handpicked audience with preselected questions in attendance.
woiyo wrote:Must be a slow news day.
Thanks to Bush, who failed to make any news in the most important venue an American president has....actually he did make news, which was the fact that the speech did not make news.
