State of the union speech.So what.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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The democratic party is dead due to their own obstructionist policies.

They still seem to hold a surprising number of seats and positions for a dead party.

I think there were probably quite a few times in the period between 1945-1980 where the Republican party could have been pronounced 'dead.' Don't rush to judgement.

Cycloptichorn

If the next US election is any reflection of the last Canadian election...

The democratic funeral will be more of a wake... Smile

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Anon-Voter wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:
Anon-Voter wrote:
You betcha Tico. Who cares who he kills as long as he's a snappy dresser!

Anon

I failed to see where he's killed anyone. Apparently he met with bin Laden and Taliban folks. I don't know if he was up to no good, or was attempting diplomatic relations ("Please don't bomb us"), but I don't think Scahill knows either. Maybe his explanation for meeting with Mullah Omar (to "convey an official Saudi request to extradite Osama bin Laden") is accurate. In any event, he's the current ambassador to the U.S. ...... by all means, let's prevent him from attending.

Not to mention the fact that it was not Bush who kicked Momma Sheehan out the Capitol door ... unless you folks thinks Bush controls the Capitol Police?

Now just how do you know exactly how many people he has or hasn't killed? Can you prove he hasn't killed anyone?

I don't know how many people you've killed either, but unless I have some proof, I'm not going to be accusing you of murder.

AV wrote:

Bush has also been most cozy with the Taliban folk as well ... so much so that he gave them somewhere between 45-75 Million dollars in Spring/Summer of 2001.

I think you might want to check those facts, AV. The $43 million was given to the UN to distribute to Afghan refugees, not to the Taliban.

AV wrote:

Powell emphasized that the aid is distributed through the UN and non-government organizations, and not to the Taliban or other warring Afghan factions. "It bypasses the Taliban, who have done little to alleviate the suffering of the Afghan people and much to exacerbate it," he said.

LINK

AV wrote:

You and I both know he wasn't after extradition ... who in the Arab world wants Osama in his jail unless they're suicidal!

So he was collaborating with al Qaeda? Since we know Iraq held meetings with bin Laden, do you similarly conclude they colluded on 9/11?

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Ticomaya wrote:

Anon-Voter wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
Anon-Voter wrote:
You betcha Tico. Who cares who he kills as long as he's a snappy dresser!

Anon

I failed to see where he's killed anyone. Apparently he met with bin Laden and Taliban folks. I don't know if he was up to no good, or was attempting diplomatic relations ("Please don't bomb us"), but I don't think Scahill knows either. Maybe his explanation for meeting with Mullah Omar (to "convey an official Saudi request to extradite Osama bin Laden") is accurate. In any event, he's the current ambassador to the U.S. ...... by all means, let's prevent him from attending.

Not to mention the fact that it was not Bush who kicked Momma Sheehan out the Capitol door ... unless you folks thinks Bush controls the Capitol Police?

Now just how do you know exactly how many people he has or hasn't killed? Can you prove he hasn't killed anyone?

I don't know how many people you've killed either, but unless I have some proof, I'm not going to be accusing you of murder.

AV wrote:
Bush has also been most cozy with the Taliban folk as well ... so much so that he gave them somewhere between 45-75 Million dollars in Spring/Summer of 2001.

I think you might want to check those facts, AV. The $43 million was given to the UN to distribute to Afghan refugees, not to the Taliban.

AV wrote:
Powell emphasized that the aid is distributed through the UN and non-government organizations, and not to the Taliban or other warring Afghan factions. "It bypasses the Taliban, who have done little to alleviate the suffering of the Afghan people and much to exacerbate it," he said.

Tico, I didn't say the above ... show where I did!

LINK

AV wrote:
You and I both know he wasn't after extradition ... who in the Arab world wants Osama in his jail unless they're suicidal!

So he was collaborating with al Qaeda? Since we know Iraq held meetings with bin Laden, do you similarly conclude they colluded on 9/11?

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I'm starting to think they look at bush in the white house like it's your retaded cousin visiting you. As long as your retaded cousin is around you can get away with anything, just blame it on him.

Bush....Americas retarded cousin. Laughing

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Anon-Voter wrote:

You betcha Tico. Who cares who he kills as long as he's a snappy dresser!

Anon

"He is also a man that the families of more than 600 victims of the 9/11 attacks believe was connected to their loved ones' deaths."

And I "believe" in the tooth fairy...

Or, do we just convict people (Arabs) on hearsay these days and what people believe? Was he found on a battle field wielding an AK47? No...

Where is the proof? What about the other 2500 victims families? Why don't they believe this? And the French book claiming the US flew the planes into the towers? What a joke!

Omar also didn't and never has been present and stood up in the middle of a US speech and start screaming his hate for the president...

Sheehan has proven she can be a disruptive element and has lost all serious credibility with her Hugo hug. That is proof that she conspires with a government that has set itself up to oppose the US and our way of life... Again, THIS IS TREASON... If she attempts to sue our government for this incident we should lock her up for treason which we do have "proof" of... Conspiring with the enemy in a time of war? I hope (due to the patriot act) we have recorded the conversations between her and her hero Hugo... This will be admissible in court when she is convicted of treason.

Will she be hugging the Iranian president next? Few would put it past her...

Cindy has "proven" she cannot be trusted on MANY occasions. Besides using her dead son for political gain she thinks California wants her as a lawmaker? ha ha! She underestimates how much the American people detest her now...

She continues to "promote" hate for our president on internet websites...

Can you show me Mullah Omar's website denouncing our president? NO... because there is none... BIG DIFFERENCE!

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Amigo wrote:

I'm starting to think they look at bush in the white house like it's your retaded cousin visiting you. As long as your retaded cousin is around you can get away with anything, just blame it on him.

Bush....Americas retarded cousin.

Wow, you can think? Well it is about time you started...

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Ahh, my mistake. You said just the opposite, in fact. That was a quote from my link. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

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RexRed wrote:

Anon-Voter wrote:
You betcha Tico. Who cares who he kills as long as he's a snappy dresser!

Anon

"He is also a man that the families of more than 600 victims of the 9/11 attacks believe was connected to their loved ones' deaths."

And I "believe" in the tooth fairy...

Or, do we just convict people (Arabs) on hearsay these days and what people believe? Was he found on a battle field wielding an AK47? No...

Where is the proof? What about the other 2500 victims families? Why don't they believe this? And the French book claiming the US flew the planes into the towers? What a joke!

Omar also didn't and never has been present and stood up in the middle of a US speech and start screaming his hate for the president...

Sheehan has proven she can be a disruptive element and has lost all serious credibility with her Hugo hug. That is proof that she conspires with a government that has set itself up to oppose the US and our way of life... Again, THIS IS TREASON... If she attempts to sue our government for this incident we should lock her up for treason which we do have "proof" of... Conspiring with the enemy in a time of war? I hope (due to the patriot act) we have recorded the conversations between her and her hero Hugo... This will be admissible in court when she is convicted of treason.

Will she be hugging the Iranian president next? Few would put it past her...

Cindy has "proven" she cannot be trusted on MANY occasions. Besides using her dead son for political gain she thinks California wants her as a lawmaker? ha ha! She underestimates how much the American people detest her now...

She continues to "promote" hate for our president on internet websites...

Can you show me Mullah Omar's website denouncing our president? NO... because there is none... BIG DIFFERENCE!

I never cease to be amused with your posts! You're hilarious!

Anon

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Ticomaya wrote:

Ahh, my mistake. You said just the opposite, in fact. That was a quote from my link. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

Just tired of being mis-quoted by the careless, ignorant, and outright stupid!

Anon

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But its ok if you misquote people?

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Tico,

This doesnt look like they gave it to the U.N. Matter of fact, this mentions U.N. sanctions.

http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/01_columns/052201.htm

Anon

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as i remember, there was a big oil pipline deal in the works at the time. there was apparently some attempt to grease the wheels with our good friends, the taliban.

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Amigo wrote:

I'm starting to think they look at bush in the white house like it's your retaded cousin visiting you. As long as your retaded cousin is around you can get away with anything, just blame it on him.

Bush....Americas retarded cousin.

Amigo,
since a few people here are so concerned with what Cindy Sheehan looks like, you would have expected them to take a second look at the Chimp & his looks before they voted for him. He looks, talks & acts the part of the retarded cousin.

Of course we know why they are talking about looks. It's the same old game of taking attention away from the bad news for their gang of thugs.

Why Isn't George Bush in Jail? - - Just watch this video. No words needed.

http://www.channel4.com/player/playerwindow.html?id=2815&vert=news

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DontTreadOnMe wrote:

as i remember, there was a big oil pipline deal in the works at the time. there was apparently some attempt to grease the wheels with our good friends, the taliban.

And the Taliban met with some of the Bush gang in Texas way early in his admin or just before he seized the office. And Bush, making his own rules as usual, gave the Taliban $43 Million early in 2001.

Of course, according to the sound byte wonder kids, it was either Bill Clinton's fault or else it was patriotic. That would be their definition of patriotic which has nothing to do with reality.

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Anon-Voter wrote:

Tico,

This doesnt look like they gave it to the U.N. Matter of fact, this mentions U.N. sanctions.

http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/01_columns/052201.htm

Anon

Yes, the sanctions were in effect. The article you cited provides nothing to back up its bald-faced assertion that the US gave the money to the Taliban. He just refers to a "gift to the Taliban." Did you even follow my link? If you had, you would have seen this:

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We distribute our assistance in Afghanistan through international agencies of the United Nations and nongovernmental organizations. We provide our aid to the people of Afghanistan, not to Afghanistan's warring factions. Our aid bypasses the Taliban, who have done little to alleviate the suffering of the Afghan people, and indeed have done much to exacerbate it. We hope the Taliban will act on a number of fundamental issues that separate us: their support for terrorism; their violation of internationally recognized human rights standards, especially their treatment of women and girls; and their refusal to resolve Afghanistan's civil war through a negotiated settlement.

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However, the technology and production infrastructure are still in their infancy. Companies would need to build multimillion-dollar plants relatively close to farms to make cellulosic ethanol economically feasible.

"It's going to need a dramatic infusion of dollars to make it happen," said Marchant Wentworth, a clean-energy specialist at the Union of Concerned Scientists.

Grain ethanol has been around for more than a decade, but it still accounts for only 2% of what goes into gas tanks.

HydrogenThis lighter-than-air gas powers vehicles or generators that have fuel cells, which have virtually zero tailpipe emissions, aside from plain water vapor. But unlike ethanol, using hydrogen would require not only entirely new vehicles, but also an entirely new infrastructure, including plants that make hydrogen (by using electricity to extract hydrogen from water) and "gas" stations that sell it. Fuel cell-powered cars already exist, but they are mostly experimental and are far from mass production.

"It's so far in the future that it's not something you can hang your hat on right now," said Karen Wayland, an energy specialist at the Natural Resources Defense Council.

Clean coalCoal accounts for 23% of U.S. energy needs and 52% of U.S. electricity production, but it creates a lot of pollution. High-tech power plants can turn coal into a gas and take out pollutants such as mercury and greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide from the exhaust. "Clean coal does exist, but it's no more cost-effective than solar power," said Severin Borenstein, an energy economist at University of California at Berkeley. "A 22% increase in funding is just not a Manhattan Project-type effort that we need."

Nuclear and hydroelectricEnvironmental concerns and the immense cost of building these types of power plants mean there is virtually no projected growth in these sources without major policy shifts. Nuclear power accounts for about 8% of U.S. energy needs, and hydroelectric power, about 2%.

Solar and windThese sources account for barely two-tenths of a percent of U.S. energy needs.

"It could increase vastly, but it depends entirely on policy," Borenstein said. Solar technology in particular is expensive. It costs about 35 cents to produce a kilowatt-hour of solar power, compared with about 5 cents for coal and 9 cents for wind. Solar power isn't for every region, and it wouldn't be feasible in the New York area.

Wind power could be harnessed almost anywhere in the country, including the Appalachian Mountains and on - or off - Long Island.

Originally published on February 4, 2006

Too bad Bush's hot air couldn't be turned into useful energy. If it could our energy problem would be solved.

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Careful, his hot air is fueled by ethanol. If you light a match, make sure you are a safe distance before you throw it.

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One more:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1/sheehanmatthautwins1my.jpg

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You're on a juvenile kick today.

Nothing better to discuss?

Cycloptichorn

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Ticomaya wrote:

One more:

Good God she's a putty-face!

In line with her putty-mind.

Ragging on Patty Sheehan is like ragging on the village idiot.

In the 21st century, however, the Village Idiot tends to get media coverage simply because he or she is remarkably different than the norm.

Being the Village Idiot, it is is hardly remarkable that he or she, once infused with the opiate of media attention, would not seek further fixes.

Patty Sheehan, obviously, has developed a Jones for media attention.

She is a sad, pathetic, exploited and ineffectual case.

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State of the union speech.So what.

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