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State of the union speech.So what.

 
 
woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:01 am
Maggie - I'm really not interested in her charade.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:05 am
Under George Bush it would seem that we have become a police state. Could anyone imagine an incident like this happening in the past. It seems to me that Bush's idea of democracy has a similarity and stink of Germany 1933
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:14 am
woiyo wrote:
Maggie - I'm really not interested in her charade.



Did I force you to read it?
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:22 am
au1929 wrote:
Under George Bush it would seem that we have become a police state. Could anyone imagine an incident like this happening in the past. It seems to me that Bush's idea of democracy has a similarity and stink of Germany 1933


Au1929,

You and I know that but there are those who refuse to see.

I was on the verge of vomiting last night as I listened to the garbage that spewed from george's mouth about Democracy. This man has to be certifiably insane if he thinks that he can continue to say one thing and do the exact opposite. He really seems to think (or at least whoever writes those hideous speeches thinks) that the majority of U.S. citizens are dumber than he is.

The crap that this illegal & law breaking occupant of the White House has gotten away with is truly amazing. I am glad to see that a few Republicans are finally realizing that he cares about as much for them as he does for the average American....Zilch, unless it involves large amounts of money or a vote in his favor.

The one man who amazes me is John McCain. He was all over the place last night, laughing, giggling and making an absolute fool of himself. I am sure that he was either drunk, smoking something funny or had found Laura's stash of happy pills.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:24 am
woiyo wrote:
Cindy Who??? Her 15 minutes was up months ago.

Dull speech, nothing new.

I found it somewhat curious that during this past year, we lost a whole city in the South and it gets about 6 sentances at the end of the speech. Yet not one Dummycrat picked up on this.


the dummycrats were talking about exactly that on NPR this morning. Nice try though.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:27 am
Magginkat wrote:
RexRed wrote:
If you find that last post a bit harsh well good! It was meant to be! ....


Think your post was harsh? I tried to dig through the mangled English, the idiotic sound bytes and total lies but finally gave up. You sound like a raving maniac.
...

Do yourself a favor and go back to school. Perhaps you can learn not only to not mangle the English language but maybe you can take a look at that Constitution which you seem to have missed the first time around.


What "mangling of the english language" are you talking about? His posts have an occasional typo, but whose don't?

Oh, and you're one to talk, with your "Worship of a morn is not patriotic" line from a couple of pages back. What the hell was that supposed to mean?

MK wrote:
What happened here was an illegal arrest of a U.S. citizen who had been invited by another member of Congress.


She was demonstrating in the Capitol, which is not lawful. Arrests of this kind happened before Bush, and will happen after Sheehan.
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:31 am
Personally I wish that Bush had to give a speech every day, nothing the 'dems' could do would work in their favor as much.

I would like to know what is so disturbing about wearing an anti-war tee shirt. What has this country come to when we arrest someone for wearing a tee shirt? What ever happened to free speech? Why don't all you republicans see what's wrong with this and that it transcends past normal partisan politics? I'm serious, I would truly like to know.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:34 am
First ammendment to the constitution.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


It would seem that Bush believes along with his right to spy on Americans he also believes he can curtail peaceful assembly and dissent.

Tico
Wearing a shirt is your idea of demonstrating.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:36 am
Shw was welcome to wear`that t-shirt outside. Nothing has happened to free speech. Not only should she have been arrested, but the fashion police should have slapped her around as well.

It's the state of the union address, not a street performance. Decorum please.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:44 am
McGentrix
Is there a dress code required to hear the moron mouth a speech that someone wrote for him. I wonder how long it took him to learn to read words containing of more than two syllables.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:45 am
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Shw was welcome to wear`that t-shirt outside. Nothing has happened to free speech. Not only should she have been arrested, but the fashion police should have slapped her around as well.

It's the state of the union address, not a street performance. Decorum please.


There is no law against wearing T-shirts inside. The Bushies would have been better served to let her stay while wearing it; she would have looked silly.

Is there a law prohibiting what she did? Or have we decided that the 1st amendment is outdated as well?

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:47 am
As I said, this has happened before Bush, and will happen after him.

From "The Corner":

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This morning a poster on the FreeRepublic website remembered an incident from the 1999 Clinton impeachment trial in which a man was removed from the Senate chamber and taken into custody -- for wearing an anti-Clinton T-shirt. The story was reported the next day in the New York Daily News:
    [size=14][b]WASHINGTON A Pennsylvania school teacher was yanked out of a VIP Senate gallery and briefly detained last week during the impeachment trial for wearing a T-shirt with graphic language dissing President Clinton. Dave Delp, 42, of Carlisle, Pa., and a friend had just settled into their seats last Saturday when four Capitol security guards approached them. Delp said yesterday he was ordered to button his coat and follow the guards. Outside the chamber, he was told "several people felt threatened by your shirt," which said, "Bill Doesn't Inhale He Just S---s." Even after establishing that Delp was a guest of Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), the guards wouldn't let him back in and escorted him to a basement security area, where they questioned and photographed him. After being given one of the photos as a souvenir, Delp said he was banned from the Capitol for the rest of the day. "They were polite and professional," Delp added, "but they really did scare me. I think I should have been given the chance to cover up." Capitol police declined to comment.[/b][/size]


The archived article entitled, "SHIRT GETS TEACH A DRESSING-DOWN," THOMAS M. DEFRANK. New York Daily News, New York, N.Y.: Feb 11, 1999, -- is available HERE for a small fee.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:51 am
The 'clinton did it' defense? It wasn't right then, and it isn't right now. Clear that up for you?

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:52 am
Here we go again making this person the issue when her 15 minutes is over. This is the President Constitutional address to the Senate. Not a place for obnoxious statements. Remember, if they let ONE demonstrator in, they have to let them ALL in.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:56 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
The 'clinton did it' defense? It wasn't right then, and it isn't right now. Clear that up for you?

Cycloptichorn


Hardly a "Clinton did it defense." You folks have alleged this was "yet another" attack by Bush upon the first amendment, and I pointed out this prohibition is not novel to the Bush Administration, but has been in place for many, many years.

The Capitol Police are charged with maintaining order in the Capitol building at all times, and particularly during major events, including the SOTUS. Political demonstrations are permitted outside in certain locations around the Capital, but not inside. Reasonable restrictions on the location of protest speech are permissible, and should not offend your delicate First Amendment sensibilities.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 10:03 am
woiyo wrote
Quote:
Here we go again making this person the issue when her 15 minutes is over. This is the President Constitutional address to the Senate. Not a place for obnoxious statements. Remember, if they let ONE demonstrator in, they have to let them ALL in.


When did wearing an antiwar T shirt make you a demonstrator?

I will tell you who the real demonstrators were. The republican and democratic congress people. The republicans cheered wildly everytime the momo opened his mouth. While the Dems sat on their hands except when he mentioned. The failure of his SS proposal.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 10:06 am
Does Sheehan bear more of a resemblance to Nolte or Daniels?

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2662/sheehandanielstwins4oo.jpghttp://img356.imageshack.us/img356/4162/sheehannoltetwins7pc.jpg

I say Nolte, but it's close ...
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 01:17 pm
You sure are hung up on the superficials, tico.

At any rate, I didn't realize this did happen before. If the story is accurate, it was as wrong and UN-American as Sheehan being arrested for wearing a tee shirt. If she (or the guy in the clinton episode) was actually demonstrating and disrupting his (or clinton's) speech, I can see it, but just wearing a tee-shirt was not disturbing anything.
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 01:45 pm
revel wrote:
You sure are hung up on the superficials, tico.

At any rate, I didn't realize this did happen before. If the story is accurate, it was as wrong and UN-American as Sheehan being arrested for wearing a tee shirt. If she (or the guy in the clinton episode) was actually demonstrating and disrupting his (or clinton's) speech, I can see it, but just wearing a tee-shirt was not disturbing anything.


Absolutely!

Anon
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 01:48 pm
revel wrote:
You sure are hung up on the superficials, tico.


Where'd you get that idea? Just because I think Cindy Sheehan looks like Nick Nolte, and Michael Moore tends to resemble Jabba the Hut?


http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3728/mm8kw.jpg


Oh, and doesn't Helen Thomas bear a likeness to this turkey?


http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6346/ht3zj.jpghttp://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4269/turkey2qh.jpg

Hung up on the superficials? Me? Perish the thought.
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