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THE US, THE UN AND IRAQ, TENTH THREAD.

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:24 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
ican, By all the evidence from your posts, you are the first terrorist I would like to see destroyed.


By all the evidence of your posts, I believe you need psychiatric counseling.

I believe that based on my assumption that you like I have never murdered anyone.

I believe that besides your need for psychiatric counseling, we differ in that I advocate murdering (i.e., intentionally killing) murderers and you advocate doing something else.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:27 pm
ican711nm wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
hbg, Some people will never learn that just because Iraq established a government as "progress," that the sectarian violence will end based on the new government. Some people just keep there heads up their arse.

First, Iraq has not yet established and organized its government.

Second, even when the Iraqi people have established and organized their government, that government will have much work ahead, but nonetheless the Iraqi people will have made some progress in securing their liberty simply by establishing and organizing their government.

Third, the violence, sectarian and terrorist will not end, but will only be diminished with much time and effort to the point where the liberty of almost all of the Iraqi people will be acceptably secured.

Fourth, when you are perfect, we'll all be perfect.
It won't end because it's us doing it. Manifest Destiny? Divine right? or Terrorist malignancy?

Amercan trained Ba'athist TERRORIST death squads for the perpose of TERROR in Iraq.

"According to the investigative writer Max Fuller (National Review online), the key CIA manager of the Interior Ministry death squads "cut his teeth in Vietnam before moving on to direct the U.S. military mission in El Salvador." Professor Grandin names another Central America veteran whose job now is to "train a ruthless counter-insurgent force made up of ex-Ba'athist thugs." Another, says Fuller, is well-known for his "production of death lists." A secret militia run by the Americans is the Facilities Protection Service, which has been responsible for bombings. "The British and U.S. Special Forces," concludes Fuller, "in conjunction with the [U.S.-created] intelligence services at the Iraqi Defense Ministry, are fabricating insurgent bombings of Shias."
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:36 pm
ican, You advocate killing people you "think" are murderers, along with thousands of innocent people that just happens to be "in the way." Your kind of sickness is dangerous to the innocent people like the thousands killed in Iraq by this administration - whom you support. You're the one that needs psychiatric treatment.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:38 pm
Amigo wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
SUMMARY

I believe there is no way to protect our liberty from destruction by terrorists determined to do so, except by exterminating the terrorists.
And anybody who resist our Manifest destiny or divine right is a terrorist.
What the hell has our "Manifest destiny or divine right", if there actually be such, got to do with our desire to survive without losing our liberty?

Manifest Destiny - a political philosophy common among American statesman and business leaders in the nineteenth century that held that United States was destined to, or deserved to, conquer the heart of North America from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean.

Devine right -the doctrine that kings derive their right to rule directly from God and are not accountable to their subjects; rebellion is the worst of political crimes; "the doctrine of the divine right of kings was enunciated by the Stuarts in Britain in the 16th century"

So no matter what Anybody who resist in a Terrorist except for us. Our Terror is "Devine right" and "Manifest Destiny"?
I believe all that is nuts! If you believe I believe that, you too require some psychiatric counseling.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:41 pm
ican. You are terrorist malignancy.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:45 pm
Isn't it interesting that ican, the terrorist malignancy, can't see himself as the real terrorist.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:47 pm
And to borrow from username from another thread:

Quote:
username wrote:
Civilized people don't kill people on speculation!!!!!!
Civilized people don't kill people on speculation!!!!!!
Civilized people don't kill people on speculation!!!!!!
Civilized people don't kill people on speculation!!!!!!
Civilized people don't kill people on speculation!!!!!!
-Intrepid

Intrepid has produced possibly the finest sentence I have seen on this topic since our greasy administration took office.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:50 pm
I was just going to do the same exact thing. Very Happy
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:51 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
ican, You advocate killing people you "think" are murderers, along with thousands of innocent people that just happens to be "in the way." ...

I'll take the liberty to restate your statement of what I advocate so that it matches what I actually advocate.

RESTATEMENT: ican, You advocate murdering the murderers of civilians, or their abettors, or their advocates, or their silent witnesses in order to save the lives and liberty of civilians that would otherwise be murdered.

Yes, I sure do!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:55 pm
ican, You're keeping yourself ignorant of what our country has been doing to people all across this planet. Supporting tyrants who have killed innocents, and killing innocents by our military for unjustified reasons. You need to get a grip on reality.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 08:58 pm
Here's a sample of what our country has been doing.

By Peter Kornbluh

WASHINGTON -- A caller to the office of a senior State Department adviser hears this message: "This is Richard Nuccio. I resigned my position on February 25. Consequently, I can no longer be reached at this office."

The curt message contrasts sharply with the long-running drama of Nuccio's departure from the Clinton administration. In one of the most high-profile resignations over Latin American policy since the early 1980s, Nuccio left his Bureau of Inter-American affairs post denouncing both the CIA -- for covering up its connection to atrocities in Guatemala -- and Bill Clinton's White House -- for failing to defend him and his reputation when the CIA stripped Nuccio of his top-security clearance last December, a move that effectively ended his promising diplomatic career.

In a letter to President Clinton, Nuccio wrote that he was leaving the administration "unwillingly" because of a three-year CIA campaign to "exact revenge" on him for providing the name of a CIA asset in Guatemala to then Rep. (now Sen.) Robert Torricelli, D-N.J.

"I faced no easy choices in March 1995," Nuccio's letter stated. "I had given my word to the Congress that your administration was not covering up wrongdoing in Guatemala. When it became clear to me that the CIA was, I felt obliged to tell the truth to the people's elected representatives. I made a choice that was consistent with the values of your administration and the law."

It was Torricelli, not Nuccio, who subsequently gave the name of Col. Julio Alpirez to The New York Times, along with information that the CIA had covered up its connection to the colonel who was involved in the torture and murder of both American citizen, innkeeper Michael Devine, and Guatemalan rebel leader Efraim Bamaca, the husband of American lawyer Jennifer Harbury.

The Times story, "Guatemalan in Killings Tied to CIA," set off a scandal -- forcing the CIA to conduct a full review of its so-called "liaison" relationships with human rights violators like Alpirez, as well as an internal investigation of wrongdoing inside the agency. On the basis of a 700-page "top secret" report by the CIA's inspector general (that remains classified), two former CIA station chiefs were fired in September 1995 and seven other officials were reprimanded for misconduct.

But Nuccio, a tall, balding, former professor from Williams College, was another casualty. Because he passed on the crucial information to Torricelli, CIA director John Deutch lifted Nuccio's security clearance, known as SCI for Sensitive Compartmented Information. Deutch's decision prevented Nuccio from reading highly sensitive cable traffic and intelligence reports necessary for doing his job.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 09:02 pm
July 2, 2004

Kirk Admits C.I.A. Connection

Mark Kirk (Republican, 10th District - Illinois) admitted on the floor of Congress that he has been working for the Central Intelligence Agency at the same time he is serving in Congress. Lee Goodman, Kirk's Democratic opponent, called for Kirk's resignation from Congress. "The conflict of interest is blatant and appalling," said Goodman. "Congress has been struggling to investigate intelligence failures by the CIA and now it turns out Kirk is working for the CIA. No wonder Kirk voted not to investigate these failures after 9/11. He is working for the people who didn't want to be investigated. Any high-schooler who has studied the separation of powers in U.S. history class would recognize the problem."
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 09:06 pm
Wake up and smell the coffee, ican. That's if you can.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 09:24 pm
I advocate:

(1) Exterminate terrorist malignancy: that is, exterminate the mass murderers of civilians, their abettors, their advocates, and their silent witnesses.

(2) Cease protecting the government of Iraq after June 30, 2006, if that government has failed to reorganize its newly elected representatives by that date.

A simple rule and a simple test?

Simple Rule:
Repeatedly, publicly announce the Simple Rule and Simple Test.
Require only trained military persons in uniform to perform the Simple Test.

Simple Test:
Are they non-uniformed humanoids in possession of ordnance?
Did they shoot at soldiers
Did they shoot at civilians?
Did they behead prisoners?
Are they shooting at soldiers?
Are they shooting at civilians?
Are they beheading prisoners?
Are they inserting ordnance in holes alongside roads?
Are they inserting ordnance in vehicles?
Are they abetting people to do any of the above?
Are they advocating that people do any of the above?
Are they silent about witnessing people who have done any of the above?
Are they training people to do any of the above?
Are they cohabiting with, co-locating with, travelling with, or walking with humanoids for whom the answer to anyone of the previous questions is YES?

If the answer to any of these questions about any humanoids is yes, then they are part of terrorist malignancy and must be exterminated.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 09:30 pm
ican711nm wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
ican, You advocate killing people you "think" are murderers, along with thousands of innocent people that just happens to be "in the way." ...

I'll take the liberty to restate your statement of what I advocate so that it matches what I actually advocate.

RESTATEMENT: ican, You advocate murdering the murderers of civilians, or their abettors, or their advocates, or their silent witnesses in order to save the lives and liberty of civilians that would otherwise be murdered.

Yes, I sure do!
You advocate Terror on civilians under the guise of liberating of the civilians you terrorize.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 09:31 pm
I'll save some space and not repeat this that I've previously posted.

Evaluation of USA foreign policy both up to 9/11/2001 and after 9/11/2001.
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2025262#2025262
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 09:32 pm
ican wrote:
I advocate:

(1) Exterminate terrorist malignancy: that is, exterminate the mass murderers of civilians, their abettors, their advocates, and their silent witnesses.


ican, You'd better start exterminating our government that would include Bush, Cheney, and Rummy, but especially the people working in the CIA.

They're all responsible for the mass murder of civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 09:35 pm
Amigo wrote:

...You advocate Terror on civilians under the guise of liberating of the civilians you terrorize.

No! I advocate doing that which will save more civilian lives than would otherwise be lost if I did something else.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 09:37 pm
Oh, I forget. Don't forget to commit suicide after you finish exterminating the malignancy of this administration, because you're an advocate of what they have done - killing thousands of innocent civilians.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 09:38 pm
ican711nm wrote:
I'll save some space and not repeat this that I've previously posted.

Evaluation of USA foreign policy both up to 9/11/2001 and after 9/11/2001.
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2025262#2025262
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