cicerone imposter wrote:ican wrote:
"...The USA had the most to lose by waiting for the world community to help..."
Show us how this is so - with concrete evidence, not by unsubstantiated rhetoric?
Seems to me that you are asking me to provide more concrete evidence to support my posts than you require of yourself to support your posts.
But, I shall nevertheless try to comply with your request.
In Public Law 107-243 107th Congress Joint Resolution [b]Oct. 16, 2002[/b] (H.J. Res. 114) wrote: To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.
www.c-span.org/resources/pdf/hjres114.pdf
...
Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;
Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens;
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The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq.
General Tommy Franks in American Soldier, 7/1/2004, Regan Books, An Imprint of HarperCollins Publishers wrote:
At the time we invaded Iraq (3/20/2003), al-Qaeda was in control of 12 villages in northeastern Iraq. USA Special Forces and Special Mission Operators, leading Kurdish Peshmerga fighters invaded these al-Qaeda camps, collecting evidence, taking prisoners, and killing all those who resisted. {except, unfortunately, those who escaped}
Also at the time we invaded Iraq (3/20/2003), several hundred foreign fighters from Egypt, Sudan, Syria, and Libya were being trained in a camp south of Baghdad. After the USA invaded Iraq, USA marines killed them all. {Fortunately, none escaped}
9-11 Commission, Monday, September 20, 2004, in Chapter 2.5 wrote:
www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm
U.S. intelligence estimates put the total number of fighters who underwent instruction in Bin Ladin-supported camps in Afghanistan from 1996 through 9/11 at 10,000 to 20,000.78
UN Charter Members in Article 51 wrote:
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. ...
The History of 9/11:
1. America is a member of the UN.
2. Al-Qaeda declared war on America in 1996 and 1998.
3. Then al-Qaeda trained al-Qaeda attackers to highjack airliners.
4. Then these Al-Qaeda attackers learned in American flight schools how to fly airplanes.
5. Then these Al-Qaeda attackers armed themselves with boxcutters.
6. Then these al-Qaeda attackers on 9/11/2001 boarded four American airliners.
7. Then these al-Qaeda attackers attacked the crew and passengers on these four American airliners.
8. Then these al-Qaeda attackers highjacked these four American airliners.
9. Then these al-Qaeda attackers were armed with these four American airliners.
10. Then these al-Qaeda attackers murdered almost 3,000 American civilians with these airliners.
11. Then America in self-defense decided to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.
12. Then America declared war on al-Qaeda and a first country (i.e., Afghanistan) that harbored them.
13. Then America invaded that country 10/20/2001.
14. Then America replaced the government of that country and attacked the al-Qaeda harbored there.
15. Then America began to democratize that government.
16. Then America declared war on al-Qaeda and a second country (i.e., Iraq) that harbored them.
17. Then America invaded that country 3/20/2003.
18. Then America replaced the government of that country and attacked the al-Qaeda harbored there.
19. Then America began to democratize that government.
UN Charter Members in Article 51 wrote: ... Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.
20. The UN debated what measures were "necessary to maintain international peace and security."
21. Then the UN decided ... ehh ... uhh ... de ... ci ... ded ...
Quote:Book: Al-Zarqawi: al Qaeda's Second Generation by Jordanian journalist, Fouad Hussein.
Al Qaeda's seven phase plan for world conquest.
Phase 1, the "wakeup call." Spectacular terrorist attacks on the West
(like September 11, 2001) get the infidels (non-Moslems) to make war on
Islamic nations. This arouses Moslems, and causes them to flock to al
Qaedas banner. This phase is considered complete.
Phase 2, the "eye opening." This is the phase we are in, where al Qaeda
does battle with the infidels, and shows over a billion Moslems how
it's done. This phase is supposed to be completed by next year.
Phase 3, "the rising." Millions of aroused (in a terrorist sense)
Moslems go to war against Islam's enemies for the rest of the decade.
Especially heavy attacks are made against Israel. It is believed that
major damage in Israel will force the world to acknowledge al Qaeda as a major power, and negotiate with it.
Phase 4, "the downfall." By 2013, al Qaeda will control the Persian
Gulf, and all its oil, as well as most of the Middle East. This will
enable al Qaeda to cripple the American economy, and American military
power.
Phase 5, "the Caliphate." By 2016, the Caliphate (one government for
all Moslem nations) will be established. At this point, nearly all
Western cultural influences will be eliminated from Islamic nations. The
Caliphate will organize a mighty army for the next phase.
Phase 6, "world conquest." By 2022, the rest of the world will be
conquered by the righteous and unstoppable armies of Islam. This is the
phase that Osama bin Laden has been talking about for years.
Phase 7, "final victory." All the world's inhabitants will be forced to
either convert to Islam, or submit (as second class citizens) to
Islamic rule. This will be completed by 2025 or thereabouts.
Quote:Letter from al-Zawahiri to al-Zarqawi
www.dni.gov/release_letter_101105.html
A summary of Letter from al-Zawahiri to al-Zarqawi July 9, 2005.
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*The war in Iraq is central to al Qa'ida's global jihad.
*The war will not end with an American departure.
*Their strategic vision is one of inevitable conflict with a call by al-Zawahiri for political action equal to military action.
*Popular support must be maintained at least until jihadist rule has been established.
*More than half the struggle is taking place "in the battlefield of the media."
...
Quote:Booklet by the Pakistani jihadist group Lashkar-e-Taiba (Army of the Pure)
... [characterizes] the U.S., Israel and India as existential enemies of Islam and lists eight reasons for global jihad. These include {but are not limited to} the restoration of Islamic sovereignty to all lands where Muslims were once ascendant, including Spain, "Bulgaria, Hungary, Cyprus, Sicily, Ethiopia, Russian Turkistan and Chinese Turkistan. . . Even parts of France reaching 90 kilometers outside Paris."