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can't anyone be homosexual?

 
 
Questioner
 
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Reply Tue 22 Nov, 2005 11:04 am
twin_peaks_nikki wrote:

Each individual ever born is a unique sexual creature. You are no more a spokesperson for women than any other person in the world is. And I certainly wasn't claiming to be a spokesperson for women. Your are unique. I am unique. (well, iam even more [sic] unique.) :0


If every person is unique, how can you claim a statistic such as you did?

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So the bottom line is you disagree with my opinion yet you offer no explanation as to why. BTW there are legions of natal woman who agree with me.


Likewise I'm sure there are legions of women who don't agree with you. It's ALL a matter of opinion.

However, I do agree with your original statement that we all have it within us to have homosexual experiences. I doubt that genetics plays the commanding role that proponents of that theory would have us believe.
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Tue 22 Nov, 2005 11:04 am
Momma Angel wrote:
Twin Peaks,

Totally disagree with given the right circumstances any woman would.....trust me, this woman will never!


Well, sounds to me you have a moral objection to it. It is easy to say, "No, I will never do such and such" Real life doesn't work that way.

I would just as easily say, I will never murder someone. However looking back, there are times in my life that if I had had a gun in my hand, I might very well have murdered someone.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Tue 22 Nov, 2005 11:04 am
twin_peaks_nikki wrote:
I am not prepared to explain all this to you, perhaps, as many have suggested, I should write a book.


Na, don't bother... We're fine with you not explaining it at all.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 22 Nov, 2005 11:50 am
Anna, sexual attraction plays a big part in who we decide to get to know better and if you are bisexual, there is a chance you will develop a crush on your best friend or roommate. But I don't think you just "fall in love" like that. If you fall in love with someone, you want to be with them sexually. Otherwise, you just love someone and they are your friend. I love my best friend dearly but have no desire whatsoever to engage in sexual play with her.

I am not saying that becasue I am against it religiously or whatever. I am saying it because I don't like women. I think they are beautiful or attractive but I have never been sexually attracted to a woman. So there isn't a chance I'd fall in love with one.
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Delicate Sound Of Thunder
 
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Reply Tue 22 Nov, 2005 08:55 pm
Just my opinion. I think it's wrong, Its meant to be man and woman not woman and woman or vice versa.

I just don't understand, I mean I CAN understand if you think someone is pretty but wanting to like have more with that person???

Sorry, but get a man.
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anna211705
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:12 am
you guys are jumping to all these conclusions. I've been attracted to girls and have absolutely no problem, confusion, or shame about it. I've never been attracted to any girl i know no matter how close i've gotten with them. and i have never acted on any of these feelings nor have any desire to. furthermore, i do have a man who im extremely attracted to. however, i can't rule out the possibility that i'll never fall in love with and/or be attracted to another woman just because she's not a man. i'd like to think that if i found another person who was right for me, i wouldn't pass it up just because she's not a he.
anyways look at twin peaks, in today's world you can be whoever you want to be.... Smile
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anna211705
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:14 am
p.s. Bella Dea i must say i love your quote. makes me smile every time i read it. hehe behind the couch.....
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flushd
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:19 am
anna211705 wrote:
you guys are jumping to all these conclusions. I've been attracted to girls and have absolutely no problem, confusion, or shame about it. I've never been attracted to any girl i know no matter how close i've gotten with them.


Which is it? Laughing
Not that it is any of my business. It just made me smile.
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smog
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:25 am
anna211705 wrote:
I've been attracted to girls and have absolutely no problem, confusion, or shame about it. I've never been attracted to any girl i know no matter how close i've gotten with them.

Semantically, at least, that seems like a contradictory statement.

:wink:
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 10:48 am
Delicate Sound Of Thunder wrote:
Just my opinion. I think it's wrong, Its meant to be man and woman not woman and woman or vice versa.

I just don't understand, I mean I CAN understand if you think someone is pretty but wanting to like have more with that person???

Sorry, but get a man.


Physical attractiveness is way down the list as far as woman to woman relationships are concerned. In a classic way, my new GF is not pretty, but when I see her face or think of her, I see pure beauty.

Certainly, men are still needed for pro-creation. And to fix things. Other than that, I can't think of anything else offhand.

Sorry, get a woman.
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 10:55 am
Questioner wrote:
twin_peaks_nikki wrote:

Each individual ever born is a unique sexual creature. You are no more a spokesperson for women than any other person in the world is. And I certainly wasn't claiming to be a spokesperson for women. Your are unique. I am unique. (well, iam even more [sic] unique.) :0


If every person is unique, how can you claim a statistic such as you did?

Quote:
So the bottom line is you disagree with my opinion yet you offer no explanation as to why. BTW there are legions of natal woman who agree with me.


Likewise I'm sure there are legions of women who don't agree with you. It's ALL a matter of opinion.

However, I do agree with your original statement that we all have it within us to have homosexual experiences. I doubt that genetics plays the commanding role that proponents of that theory would have us believe.


It was not a statistic, it was an opinion. It appears you believe the number should be 100% however.

Because of our upbringing, most in our society believe that homosexuality is wrong. I surmise that those who deny that they could ever fall into a homosexual relationship under any circumstances do so because of their indoctrination.

And just based on my own personal experience, there many things I though I would never do and wound up doing.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 10:58 am
twin_peaks_nikki wrote:
I surmise that those who deny that they could ever fall into a homosexual relationship under any circumstances do so because of their indoctrination.
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Not me. Have had the chance but never the desire. Although the religion I grew up with considers it wrong, that doesn't mean I won't do it. I won't do it because I have no desire to do it.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 11:01 am
I thought you and shewolf had a tryst, bella.

Or was that just a rumor?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 11:05 am
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
I thought you and shewolf had a tryst, bella.

Or was that just a rumor?


Sadly, just a rumor.

Although, I should correct myself. I did have an experiment once. The woman involved didn't excite me. She was there and all but the man was who turned me on, who I wanted to be with.
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:16 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
twin_peaks_nikki wrote:
I surmise that those who deny that they could ever fall into a homosexual relationship under any circumstances do so because of their indoctrination.
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Not me. Have had the chance but never the desire. Although the religion I grew up with considers it wrong, that doesn't mean I won't do it. I won't do it because I have no desire to do it.


You actually had the chance, eh.
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Lots of women who had thought the same thing and now find themselves in Lesbian relationships. There is always the exception but I can flatly say that the great majority who say that they have never entertained a thought, howver fleeting, about same sex are lying.

Time changes everything.

Never say never.

Clichés, But clichés become clichés because they are true.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:20 pm
twin_peaks_nikki wrote:


You actually had the chance, eh.
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


No need to be a bitch nikki, although I know you're good at it.

twin_peaks_nikki wrote:

There is always the exception but I can flatly say that the great majority who say that they have never entertained a thought, howver fleeting, about same sex are lying.


"Entertaining a fleeting thought" and desiring someone are two very different things. But it won't matter to you because you have to be right.

Just because you are into it doesn't mean everyone else is. Don't use the "everyone else is" routine to validate your life. I answered the question honestly.

Rolling Eyes
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:26 pm
Your stance defies logic, Bella.

Just because you have no desire to do something now does not ensure that your feelings might not change in the future.

You are either not being honest with yourself or you have a very poor grasp about what life and human nature is all about.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:29 pm
twin_peaks_nikki wrote:
Your stance defies logic, Bella.

Just because you have no desire to do something now does not ensure that your feelings might not change in the future.

You are either not being honest with yourself or you have a very poor grasp about what life and human nature is all about.


Being bi or gay doesn't just happen overnight. I won't "change my mind".
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:30 pm
why does finding a woman sexually attractive mean you have to be gay?

Humans are sexy
we are MENT to be sexually attractive.

if I find a woman attractive.. that doesnt mean I am gay


or am i missing your point?
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2005 12:39 pm
I am totally convinced my theory is true. I have seen it played out too many times.

There is a lot of ignorance about the nature of relationships between women. I am still learning how to be a dyke but compared to the straight women posting here, I have a Doctorate in Dykeness.


Many woman to woman partnerships are more platonic then they are sexual. One doesn't have to "turn gay" to be in an intimate woman to woman relationship.

I have a feeling if we sat and talked about this privately, I could get you women to understand my point.
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