Not suggesting anything of the sort, au1929. Just reacting to KiwiChic's statement that Roverroad's statement was "bullshit."
Tookie did not win a Nobel Prize. And, he has only just gotten adequate representation. That is a big part of why people are starting to see the other side of this case.
As for my views on the death penalty, I was until several years ago staunchly pro death. Now, despite the fact my brother was brutally murdered by a man who didn't even stand trial for it, I see the folly.
We are speaking here of , should the penalty he has been assessed be applied, however, as has been pointed out, not arguing the death penalty. I have stated my view, and we are starting to go around from the beginning again, so, I will continue to read, but not necessarily comment.
I am not sure but I believe that one cannot profit from their crime. That I do not suppose would be relevant in this instance. Further, I would think that the money he made while in prison could be used in his defense. Anyone have info in that regard?
Merry Andrew -well if that is the case, then you have a corrupt
justice system when I say corrupt I mean that if some of the judges
soley base their judgement on the colour of ones skin before the crime....
then basicaly how can anyone have any faith in the American judicial system???
I don't know how much money he has. I don't know if California allows a condemned killer to profit this way.
KiwiChic wrote:Merry Andrew -well if that is the case, then you have a corrupt
justice system when I say corrupt I mean that if some of the judges
soley base their judgement on the colour of ones skin before the crime....
then basicaly how can anyone have any faith in the American judicial system???
Now you get it. That's America! Tried, True and subject to manipulation by those in power.
KiwiChic wrote
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Merry Andrew -well if that is the case, then you have a corrupt
justice system when I say corrupt I mean that if some of the judges
soley base their judgement on the colour of ones skin before the crime....
then basicaly how can anyone have any faith in the American judicial system???
As usual some one plays the race card. I am surprised it took so long. That however I grist for it's own post.
I don't know how much is based on race here. I think going after a gang member was probably the prime motivation.
I have to wonder if Scott Peterson (convicted killer of Lacy and Connor) is sitting there in his jail cell mulling over various titles for his new book..."Why It's Not Good to Murder Your Family".
Then, in another quarter century (which is how long the appeals process in Cali apparently takes), he, too, can set himself up as a shining example of a "rehabilitated" murderer.
<Neither Lacy nor Connor could be reached for comment>
I don't believe Peterson had anything to do with LA crime processing in the late seventies.
au1929 wrote:As usual some one plays the race card.
Yep, some white guy called Raceism, sorry about that. How could I know because I've never been discriminated against. edgarblythe is rite, it is primarily a gang issue. But then, how many non-black Crips are there???
Lots of gangs have lots of colors.
Both Crips and Bloods were originally largely Latino gangs. They expanded into Watts and South Central L.A. and now have affiliates in all major cities, including my home town of Boston. I feel, though, that these non-Cali affiliates are really no more than wannabes.
at the end of the day this man was convicted of terminating the life of others regardless of race, gender etc and yes he should be punished
but to be put to death....no, I think he should serve life without parole.
I am from the immediate environs of the sholine crips and V-13; well, those were the names I knew then, in the seventies. Not all that were engaged in what is a pretty neighborhood encompassing deal are vile humans then or forever.
I don't know about Tookie, as I said before. LA police procedures over time have been questioned by more people than him, but he may indeed have been bad news - or railroaded. If he can lead young neighborhood kids in a different direction now it would be a good thing.
Merry Andrew wrote:Both Crips and Bloods were originally largely Latino gangs. They expanded into Watts and South Central L.A. and now have affiliates in all major cities, including my home town of Boston. I feel, though, that these non-Cali affiliates are really no more than wannabes.
I recall when both gangs expand into Portland in the late 1980's that the crimes were mostlY in North/East Portland, which is mostly black. I also remember a counter group called the Guardian Angels made national news when they expanded into Portland to fight the Crips and the Bloods. Man, this all sounds so juvenile. But it's terrorism plane and simple... Why are we treating alqaida members differently than we treat the Crips?
I had forgotten about the Guardian Angels, Rover! Yeah, for a short time they became active in Boston in the late 1980s. Their main thing was riding the subways and trolleys to "protect" the passengers because they said public transport security was inadequate. They were not particularly welcomed by the local law enforcement and quitely disappeared after a while.
The Guardian Angels originated out of New York City didn't they?
