Message for McTag-need help with scots language

Hello Mctag, what is the difference between Ulster-Scots and Shelta?

What is Scottish and Irish slang for:

playful girl
boisterous girl
foward girl

What is Scottish slang for:
smart or clever fellow/lad?

Have the terms Roaring Boy and Roaring Meg ever been used in Scoltand?

What famous Scottish street gangs came form Edinburgh?

Ulster-scots is spoken by (a few) descendants of the Plantation settlers in what is known as "the 6 counties" (ie Northern Ireland). The link below gives some insght:
ulster-scots

Shelta is the language of the Irish Traveller (gypsy) community. This from GOOGLE:
THE SECRET LANGUAGE OF SHELTA

The 86,000 or so Irish Travellers throughout the world -- in Britain, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Canada -- share a common language called Shelta, also known as Gammon or The Cant, which is based in part on Gaelic.

Anthropologists and sociolinguists believe Shelta serves two functions for the Irish Traveller community: a means of maintaining secrecy and a method of reinforcing membership in the community. Shelta is taught from birth and only within the community, not in any school, according to Heather Tondini, writing in the Journal of Pidgin and Creole Languages. Only Irish Travellers can speak it; only Irish Travellers can understand it.

Some of these questions are getting a bit beyond me, and would be best answered by reference to dictionaries, I think. And of course, Internet.

Thank you. Mctag, can you please tell me what are the best dictionaries and thesauruses on Scots?

<McTag - thanks for your PM the other day. Enjoyed the link immensely.>

Hello, Mctag.

Thank you for your help.

Is Ulster-Scots considered Scottish Irish and Shelta Irish Scottish, or vice versa?


Who is McGonagall?

What is the Irish Gaelic equivalent of beadrach?

Ulster Scots would be Irish-Scottish, I suppose, following the logic of the word order.

I've never heard of Shelta, until now.

William McGonagall was a famous, and famously bad, Scottish poet who wrote mock epics.
The joke is, as far as we can tell he was entirely serious about his work but everyone else thinks it painful.

Google for the Tay Railway Bridge disaster and you'll get the flavour of it.

Mctag, would you please help me out with my other questions, htat I posted in the Europe forum?

Hi J Goldman

I will if I can, but don't know what/where it is

Could you post the link please?

Best

McT

Hi, Mctag. Here's the kilt link:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1836142#1836142

Hi MCtag, her's the other topic about Scottish gangs:
http://www.able2know.com/forums/about68235.html&highlight=scottish+gangs

Trust that you're enjoying your new role as a rap DJ, MCtag?

I'm not sure to what this refers. I have no experience with the wheels of steel.
Is it the doggerel thread?
Come on please, and write some stuff,
Of execrable verse there's never enough

Can I please get some help with Jockney?

I've been looking for sites online that feature Jockney slang and words-I haven't found too many.

MCtag, could you please help me out with jockney?

Jockney is not a term I've come across before.
Is it a Scottish version of rhyming slang?

The best example I know is "brassic" meaning impecunious.

brassic=borassic= borassic lint (surgical dressing); rhymes with skint=skinned; means, having no money.

That's a belter.

Am I on the right track?

No, it seems I was not on the right track. The term refers to a change in dialect.

http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/estuary/glasgow.htm

I cannot help further with this, but would be interested to see any further info.

Mctag, did you see the response to your question I posted at this topic?

Yes, saw the response, thank you. Good luck in the quest.

believe "jockney" is actually the term for a scottish person living in london.