Message for McTag-need help with scots language

JGoldman10 wrote:

What about the word "battler"?
What about a word for an emotionally and physically strong person?
Are Hardcase and hard nut terms they use in Scotland.
What about "deliquent boy/youth"?

Battler is okay, as are hard case, heid case, nut case, nutter.

Not hard nut. Hard bastard is okay.

Emotionally strong, could be "solid" or "genuine". Physically strong "a bear".

Delinquent boy/youth could be a "wee ned" as said before. I will get some other alternatives for you. (I have not been immersed in the dialect for quite a while)

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McTag wrote:

I was down in Devon, "dahn saff".

Catching some rays, eh? I hope you saw Clary.

Sitting back to hear the show.

Goodfielder. I wonder now, does the story of your soccer-pal mean you are a mid-fielder????

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Piffka wrote:

McTag wrote:

I was down in Devon, "dahn saff".

Catching some rays, eh? I hope you saw Clary.

Sitting back to hear the show.

Yes of course, she was the reason for going, stayed chez Clary for two nights. Brill.

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Hello. Thank you for your input, McTag.

In American English, we call someone that is strong physically and emotionally a "rock." Is there a Scots noun in Scots dialect or slang that means "rock" in this sense?

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I was told elsewhere that a tough guy is called a "hard ticket".

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Can you use the term "kerne" to refer to a person on the street?

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What do they call tough lads?

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Goodfielder. I wonder now, does the story of your soccer-pal mean you are a mid-fielder????

hehehehe Piffka Very Happy

- actually I was the goalkeeper (too damn lazy to run around the field).

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JGoldman10 wrote:

Hello. Thank you for your input, McTag.

In American English, we call someone that is strong physically and emotionally a "rock." Is there a Scots noun in Scots dialect or slang that means "rock" in this sense?

Not one that springs immediately to mind. (I have made a couple of phone calls about this, and will come back if I can learn something more)

If you want to PM me about the intended context, I will see if I can make further suggestion.

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JGoldman10 wrote:

Can you use the term "kerne" to refer to a person on the street?

No, I don't think so. I'm not familiar with this expression.

Bear with me a while. Two of my best referees/ consultees are out of the country at the moment (in France and in Florida respectively) and I may get more information later.

Fashions in slang and dialect can change quite fast, and some expressions can be current in a limited locality and for a limited time. Others of course stick around, and become more widely used.

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goodfielder wrote:

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Goodfielder. I wonder now, does the story of your soccer-pal mean you are a mid-fielder????

hehehehe Piffka - actually I was the goalkeeper (too damn lazy to run around the field).

<snort>

I don't think that's lazy... the keeper's got the hardest job. 'round here, they're the hardest to find. Everybody's scared to be a keeper.

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McTag wrote:

... stayed chez Clary for two nights. Brill.

Excellent. I'll bet it was brilliant. Is there a travelogue about this? I'll go search.

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McTag, what do they call first-raters in Scots besides "stoater", "beezer", and "topper"?

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And "fandabbiedozie"? (joc. Jock joc!)

"That's the gemme"
" a purler"
"ace"
"a belter" (these last two not exclusively Scottish)
"a brammer"

caveat: context is everything, very nuanced,: young, older? Lower class, mainstream? East coast, Glasgow/west?

Also, "top" might be used, but not "a topper", I think.

"A stoater" is interesting, from c.1930s. To stoat is to bounce, and a stoater was originally a ball which bounced, i.e. better for fitba/ soccer.
(from the days before artificial rubber and plastic)

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What is the Scots dialect word for "rock"?

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A rock, like a stone, you mean?

That's just "stane", which might be a pronunciation variation or else from Low German "stein"

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There's a good list of this and other examples of semantic drifts on Wikipedia (bottom of tha page).

(And it's 'Stein' in High German - 'steen' is Low German. :wink: )

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I did some research, on Scots words for rock.

McTag, what about craik, cloch, car and creag?

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Well now.

You are into the Gaelic language with some of those.

Creag and craik will be the same, I think, and mean the same as the English word crag. (which is a rocky cliff or escarpment)

I'll pass on car; don't know. I know some climbers refer to it. (It may be Cumbrian also- note, not Cambrian, north of England) Maybe Walter will google it up if he's in the mood.

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I only know of one cloch and that is a rocky islet with a lighthouse (the Cloch Light) in the Firth of Clyde.

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