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What if your child as an adult, worked in the porn industry?

 
 
shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 10:46 am
jpinMilwaukee wrote:
shewolfnm wrote:
Ok, so what if thekid came from a very GOOD home, great parenting , wonderful education etc..

was raped by someone outside of their family/friend circle sometime in life

returned to this great family setting where all was done right for them
and they STILL turned to the porn inustry?

is THAT still a parenting failure?


I don't think that is a realistic senario. If the person had all the support they needed and the parents did everything right then I don't think they would turn to porn.

And yes... I'd be pissed if it was my son, too.


i pointed this out because my friend is claiming that she has done nothing wrong for her son , but he was sexually abused, and that he shouldnt be turning to porn.
I told her pretty much exactly the things that were said in this thread. Most of all that he had to learn SOMEWHERE , it was ok to choose money for sex..
and that , that kind of choice is pretty deep seeded in a person and doesnt just spring up from one single incident....
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:02 am
shewolfnm wrote:
i pointed this out because my friend is claiming that she has done nothing wrong for her son , but he was sexually abused, and that he shouldnt be turning to porn.
I told her pretty much exactly the things that were said in this thread. Most of all that he had to learn SOMEWHERE , it was ok to choose money for sex..
and that , that kind of choice is pretty deep seeded in a person and doesnt just spring up from one single incident....


Or perhaps he just never learned that it was not ok.

It just seems strange to me that he would just wake up one day and decide to do porn. There has to be something there that makes him think this is a viable life option for him.
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:12 am
Being raped or molested as a child isn't a choice. I would imagine that if this happened to him there are issues not yet dealt with that have made him question his sexuality or made him desensitized to sexual relations.

He may think he's making a sound business decision / career choice, but I would have to question if that is actually the case.

As far as if it were my son rather than daughter, I'd feel the same way.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:19 am
DrewDad wrote:
I imagine that most of the meaningless sex is an attempt to be close, even if for a short time, to another human being.

Porn is about being de-humanized.


Absolutly not. Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:20 am
yeah. I agree.
1) he DID NOT learn it wasnt ok
2) not dealing with the sexual abuse issue.


since molestation/rape of small children is more about power then it is sex,
Iwould wonder if people who have been abused and go into the porn industry are in some strange , off the wall way, trying to get that power 'back'?
I mean... even if you dont agree with it, most anyone can see the -power- of being paid for their sex. Doesnt matter moral standing on the issue.
There is a bit of a powerful feeling in knowing someone will pay YOU good money to show your body/ have sex/ .. what ever.
Yeah, it is a twisted sense of power.. but all the same.. in an abused persons mind, this could make perfect sense to them...
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:21 am
And, for the sometimes no, don't yu have to wonder what desensitization took place to decide that sex with a stranger just for the sake of sex is a good thing?
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logicalunit42
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:23 am
what if your pet frog worked in the porn industry?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:24 am
I am the only one who thinks that (while not a wholeyhealthy career choice) this is not a 100% unhealthy choice.

Why is is so wrong to just have sex? Seriously. That's what this is about here. Having sex that has no emotion. Why does sex always have to be about "connection" and "love". Who said sex can't be without the human emotions? I have no problems with prostitutes. If that's a career they choose, so be it. Why do these people have to be catagorized as molested children with no direction and bad choice making? Why do we have to lable them as bad when clearly this is a profession that has been around the longest and will remain around. How can something this bad stay around for so long and prosper? The sex industry is huge. While I'd be uncomfortable personally with a son or daughter in porn, why do you have to make these people out to be wrong in the head or misguided or lacking in love or molested?
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logicalunit42
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:25 am
Bella Dea wrote:
I am the only one who thinks that (while not a wholeyhealthy career choice) this is not a 100% unhealthy choice.

Why is is so wrong to just have sex? Seriously. That's what this is about here. Having sex that has no emotion. Why does sex always have to be about "connection" and "love". Who said sex can't be without the human emotions? I have no problems with prostitutes. If that's a career they choose, so be it. Why do these people have to be catagorized as molested children with no direction and bad choice making? Why do we have to lable them as bad when clearly this is a profession that has been around the longest and will remain around. How can something this bad stay around for so long and prosper? The sex industry is huge. While I'd be uncomfortable personally with a son or daughter in porn, why do you have to make these people out to be wrong in the head or misguided or lacking in love or molested?


nothing is ever 100%
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:27 am
Bella Dea wrote:
DrewDad wrote:

Porn is about being de-humanized.


Absolutly not. Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no.


oh my.. we dont agree.. :-)
this'll be pretty cool..


Ok, so if porn isnt about the fantasy of being de huminized , being made in to a sex slave .. and all about the ' money' shot...
what can it be about?

I mean.. i agree.. it isnt 100% about that. No way..
but the majority is..
It plays into the fantasy of male dominance, and the fantasy of a woman being always ready willing and sometimes anal.. ( PUN intended )
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:30 am
squinney wrote:
And, for the sometimes no, don't yu have to wonder what desensitization took place to decide that sex with a stranger just for the sake of sex is a good thing?


not really.
I can see how just wanting sex for the simple physical contact, orgasim and satisfaction, can be just that.. a WANT and nothing else.
Sometimes , you can just want the basic thing with out all the riff raff, and it is just as satisfying.. with a psychologicaly healthy person, this isnt damaging. IMO.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:30 am
squinney wrote:
And, for the sometimes no, don't yu have to wonder what desensitization took place to decide that sex with a stranger just for the sake of sex is a good thing?


I had nothing happen to me when I was young. I was raised by wonderful parents. I didn't do drugs or get in trouble.

So I must be messed up in the head to have had casual sex in college? Cuz that was sex for the sake of sex.
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logicalunit42
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:30 am
i think the question you're changing the subject to is, would you work in the porn industry.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:33 am
Bella Dea wrote:
I am the only one who thinks that (while not a wholeyhealthy career choice) this is not a 100% unhealthy choice.

Why is is so wrong to just have sex? Seriously. That's what this is about here. Having sex that has no emotion. Why does sex always have to be about "connection" and "love". Who said sex can't be without the human emotions?


i agree with that and an example can be pulled from a relationship.
Even in a relationship, we sometimes just want sex for the sake of sex.
We dont necessarily at THAT particular time feel all cozy, wamr and fuzzy with love. We just want to get down and f-k right?
Well, why cant that be done outside of a relationship?
It is the same desire.. same feelings and the same outcome is the purpose.. right?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:35 am
shewolfnm wrote:

We just want to get down and f-k right?
Well, why cant that be done outside of a relationship?
It is the same desire.. same feelings and the same outcome is the purpose.. right?


That's what I think. Exactly. My personal feelings about porn are that I could never do it. I am way to private. However, some people either don't care or like an audience.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:36 am
shewolfnm wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
DrewDad wrote:

Porn is about being de-humanized.


Absolutly not. Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no.


oh my.. we dont agree.. :-)
this'll be pretty cool..


Ok, so if porn isnt about the fantasy of being de huminized , being made in to a sex slave .. and all about the ' money' shot...
what can it be about?

I mean.. i agree.. it isnt 100% about that. No way..
but the majority is..
It plays into the fantasy of male dominance, and the fantasy of a woman being always ready willing and sometimes anal.. ( PUN intended )
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:38 am
No. Within a relationship you have trust. You have the knowledge that the person cares about you, loves you and respects you.

Outside of a relationship, where it is just sex for the sake of feeling good, there is no respect, trust or love.

Bella, I don't know that you have children, so try imagining that your husband decided to make a career change. He tells you it would just be sex, not love or anything and the money is really great.

Would that be okay?
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:40 am
squinney wrote:
so try imagining that your husband decided to make a career change. He tells you it would just be sex, not love or anything and the money is really great.

Would that be okay?


Shocked
good point..
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:44 am
squinney wrote:
No. Within a relationship you have trust. You have the knowledge that the person cares about you, loves you and respects you.

Outside of a relationship, where it is just sex for the sake of feeling good, there is no respect, trust or love.

Bella, I don't know that you have children, so try imagining that your husband decided to make a career change. He tells you it would just be sex, not love or anything and the money is really great.

Would that be okay?


I think that's a totally different situation all together. Many porn (I almost typed pron!) stars are not married or if they are, are married to other porn stars.

For you to ask if my husband came home and said he wanted to get into porn, would I be ok is not even in the same league as a single woman /man getting into porn and then marrying after the fact. Which is usually the case. The two can't even be compared because one is disruping a relationship. The other would be a choice on the part of the spouse whether or not he/she wanted to be married to someone who had sex for a living.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 11:45 am
squinney wrote:


Outside of a relationship, where it is just sex for the sake of feeling good, there is no respect, trust or love.


So?
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