The A2K (virtual) Weight Loss Club !!

Good Morning, Material Girl,

Corn Flakes twice a day? What kind of eating is that?


Get on a recognized plan for weight loss.
Exercise.
Congratulate yourself on being a good caretaker of your body.

Hi Dag,

Avoiding meat, un uh, you need protein, just limit to what you need. The six ounce piece of steak with a plateful of steamed veggies. And you have to talk yourself into liking things you already think you are wired into not liking. You have to go back and re-wire,,,,,, holy smokes, I do like that salmon with capers and lemon after all!! ....

230.6 (still on the descent path)

Joe

Its just easier.The alternative is chips from a very local takaway or a lovely baguette but its filled with mayo.

Im badly organised really.Tho I did buy 3 cookbooks last night which look doable(Im an awful cook)and I bought garlic pitta bread and lemon houmus.

I shall get more organized.

How about bananas and some kind of berry chopped up with a bit of milk mixed in and a plain piece of that baguette ordered without the mayo?

And you bought garlic bread and hummus...just wondering, are you carbo loading before a long race?

ahem. Get on a recognized weight loss program.

Joe

No race, I just thought it would taste nice.
I never know what groups of foods Im supposed to avoid,It seems they change with every diet.

Im not really a bananas and berry kinda girl.Ivetried eating fruit with my cornflakes but somehow it makes me feel even more hungry.How odd is that!!

But I must change my ways.

Joe Nation -- telling it like it is.
Amen, Brother!

Good day yesterday for me.
A four-mile jog at lunch and no sweet stuff in the evening.
Mr. Scale said 173 this morning.
Hoo-yah.

Hi Material Girl,

You don't need to avoid any of the food groups, you just have to watch what you pick from each one.

Proteins: eggs, low-fat dairy, lean meats, fish
Carbs: fresh veggies, whole grains, fruits in moderation (berries are a good choice during weight loss), beans
fats: olive oil, nuts, flax or fish oil for omega-3s, canola oil.
extras: dark chocolate, sugar-free popsicles or jello,

Things to avoid: processed foods, refined sugar, butter, full-fat dairy, fruit juice (eat the fruit instead).

It really comes down to quality and quantity, particularly if you get hypoglycemic. Try to combine a small amount of protein, carbs and fats in every meal. Try to eat every few hours by having a small snack (almonds and dark chocolate or veggies and hummus are good choices). To begin with imagine your normal portions and reduce them by half. After a week increase it a bit so that your eating about 2/3 of what you were eating before.

There are many plans that work. Pick one that doesn't severly restrict any of the food groups but calls for reduced quantities of all high quality foods. Weight Watchers and South Beach are both good examples. Add an exercise component. Cardio is good but strength training is better. There's a fabulous book called '8 Minutes in the Morning' by Jorge Cruise. It combines a good food plan and a 8 minute daily exercise routine that works two muscle groups each day. He has two books out, the first one is better. I think the new one is called 'Real Shapes, Real Sizes' and isn't nearly as good as the first one unless you have more than 40 - 50 lbs to lose and limited energy.

Two bowls of cereal over 18 hours isn't enough to keep your engines running.

I'm finally on track again. I'm at 173 today, down 5.5 since Monday. Trying to keep focused through Saturday and then not go crazy on Sunday during the party.

4 miles walk outside and biceps/triceps workout yesterday.

I'm going to the health club this morning for 24 mins on the bike plus quads/hamstrings/abs exercises.

Still on track - total loss now 9lbs

Personal Trainer session at 6pm - it took me two days for my stomach muscles to recover from Sunday's session with him...but I must congratulate him on the food diary idea...it's really working.

Material Girl - I think you need some more information about food types, etc. Maybe WeightWatchers would be a good motivation with better info than the (admittedly well-intentioned) snippets of this thread.

KP

Being sick obviously helps. Despite not moving and sinning twice (a big fat reception and reception leftovers the next day) i think i lost a few more pounds. at least my weigh-telling pants are looser again. but i won't step on the scale until i've been good for a number of days. yesterday was day 1 again. today am thinking of going to the gym again, although it's the first day that i feel more or less ok, and still have a cold. what would eoe say?

Weight this morning--129. The pound lost is water weight, but still heartening.

Joe wrote:



Love that dialogue between the reptile brain and the cerebral cortex.

Dag--

Chronic irritability may be a sign that you're cutting too far back on fat calories. First you're irritable, then you're angry then you lunge across the table and take the nice piece of blubber out of a child's hand.

Illness can be very good for a diet--but should you really share your Weight Loss Microbes with the entire gym?

J-B--

Good advice--and your actions are even more impressive.

Kitchen Pete--

A diet diary means No Hiding Place. Please give your poor, abused abs my sympathy.

Material Girl--

Two super bitchy observations:

First, you write:



Would you rather be a fat girl with vitamin deficiencies?

You have to have a balanced diet. Personally, I count calories rather than eschewing food.

A "normal" person burns 15 calories a day for every pound of body weight. Therefore, if you weigh 100 pounds, you need 1500 calories to maintain that weight.

I'd like to weigh 110 pounds--plus or minus 3-4 pounds. I presently weigh 129 pounds. If I eat about 1650 calories a day, I should lose weight and equally importantly get used to living on 1650 calories for the rest of my life.

This site is enormously helpful:

http://nutri-facts.com/index.php

I can have a 10 calorie life saver (the faster the candy disolves in my mouth, the more my calorie-craving body is melting fat) BUT this means I forego 10 calories of something else.

Second bitchy comment:

You say you've dieted before--I presume without success?

You also say you aren't much of a cook.

Since you're holding down a full time job and trying to maintain a reasonable social life the chances of you making two major changes (lose weight and learn cooking skills) at the same time are very slim.

You have not yet earned the title of Wonder Woman.

Fruits and vegetables are ready-to-eat.

I'm a diet-from-home person which has both advantages and disadvantages. On the counter next to the refrigerator, I have a spread of low calorie snacks: radishes, pickles, kumquats, kiwi fruit, a peeled tangelo, green pepper, red pepper, quartered dried figs, pickled lotus root....

All of these goodies are low calorie, nourishing, easy to prepare and offer plenty of chewing action.

I also wander through my day with a glass of ice cubes. Further I've found that the heat of teas (herbal after high noon) supresses my appetite.

Sorry for the bitchiness, but Facts of Life can be as unpalatable as wilted onions.

Hold your dominion.

Agreed, I didn't intend to infer that she shouldn't choose a plan, simply that she should choose one that doesn't overly restrict any one food group. Low fat diets and low carb diets are both successful short term but are not healthy overall. I won't even discuss fad diets such as the grapefruit diet or the cabbage soup diet or the milk diet, etc. because I think they are dangerous not simply unhealthy.

I also agree with the food diary. I've kept one for each of my post holiday recoveries for the past three years. They do make a big difference.

I would heartily recommend the South Beach Diet. She can even have her hummus with whole grain pita.

'heart'ily recommend Eva? good one.

(heehee...I wondered if anyone would catch that.)

um.... I don't get it.




Joe(I've lost three pounds off on my funny bone so far) Nation

I have had a busy couple of days so am hoping I managed to burn off a few extra calories.
I did NOT make it to the gym for my walk. I love being AT the gym, I just hate GOING there
And the gym for me is an elevator ride down to the ground floor of my apartment building! It does not get more convenient than that!
I WILL get to the gym today!
And eat healthy ...eating healthy is not much of a problem for me coz I like healthy food And I tend not to keep junk food in the house.
Alright...let's see how today goes.

Well, I guess you have!
I was not-so-subtly alluding to a heart-healthy diet.

Eva (cake not bread*)







*It's a promise I made to myself 25 years ago after entirely too much self-sacrifice. I'm not eating much of either these days, but if I have to choose...

OHHHHHHHHHHH...


Hahahahahhahahahahhhhhhaaaa ha

This is it

Eat less
Exercise more

Weigh to check. If it isn't working, then

Eat less
Exercise more

It's that simple.



I've found, on the Gi diet which I'm on now, which is working, I don't get so hungry- sometimes I'm not hungry at all, which is a great bonus.

staying up late to help the weightloss process. i'm AT WORK and it's 1:30 in the morning. and i am actually working, well, except for right now. what's wrong with me? gym closed today, water pipe burst somewhere. and i dragged myself there, i should lose 5 pounds just for the effort. only had salad with tempeh today and salad with chicken today. i'm soooooo goood.