Walter Hinteler wrote:rayban1 wrote:...but then the "Left" only knows about "multiculturalism" and nothing about military strategy or tactics.
Well, I'm sure you read
Dell'arte della guerra in the original version, can quote by heart from Clausewtz' and Jomini's works, read Sherman and Grant in the earliest morning ...
So I take your word for that Bush doesn't intend to invade Iran.
Clausewitz is outdated.......Sherman and Grant were butchers and got a lot of men killed. I will say that Grant saved Lincoln from the probable fate of lynching had he lost the war. Instead 600,000 men died and Lincoln was rewarded with a monument which compares him favorable with our greatest President, Washington.
Sun Tzu was the greatest military strategist of all time.......his wisdom has stood the test of 2500 years.........do you as a well read (maybe) military expert suggest that Bush take any option OFF the table?
raybanQuote:I'm also very choosy bout who I drink coffee with. [Wink]
Im not, thats why I invited you.
farmerman wrote:raybanQuote:I'm also very choosy bout who I drink coffee with. [Wink]
Im not, thats why I invited you.
You didn't really need to confirm it.........it's obvious by the comrades you share ideals with on this forum.
I wasn't referring with one single word at my or anyone else's possible or actual knowledge as military expert but just responding to your claim that the left knows nothing about military strategy or tactics.
So, sorry to be the wrong addressee for your question, rayban.
There is floating about a rumour, just a rumour mind you, that both Set and Farmerman would consider sharing a cuppa with this anarchist. They apparently have no sense of pride or self-respect.
Quote:I will say that Grant saved Lincoln from the probable fate of lynching had he lost the war.
Theres some sort of logic here, but Ill be damned if its visible.What point are you arguing?
Walter Hinteler wrote:I wasn't referring with one single word at my or anyone else's possible or actual knowledge as military expert but just responding to your claim that the left knows nothing about military strategy or tactics.
So, sorry to be the wrong addressee for your question, rayban.
Ducking and dodging have always been part of your repertoire Walter.....it's not surprising you revert to it now.
Bear
Who is Bush going to send to fight a war with Iran?
Fear is gripping the leadership of the Boy Scouts of America as they realize that Bush may be planning to federalize their lads and send them off to war.
BBB
I've said this a couple of times before: you must know me better than anyone else.
dyslexia wrote:There is floating about a rumour, just a rumour mind you, that both Set and Farmerman would consider sharing a cuppa with this anarchist. They apparently have no sense of pride or self-respect.
That raises the question of who has the worst judgment........you, or them.
Oh that's an easy one Mr Ban, I obviously have the baser judegment, they only meet me for the excellent coffee not the company. I was never a Sandy jock, just a grunt on the ground with an M-14 (no class act was I)
Quote:Ducking and dodging have always been part of your repertoire Walter.....it's not surprising you revert to it now.
Rayban, you seem somewhat angry this day. Are we getting enough rest? still in the anger management program?
PS, I hope we dont start slamming Roosevelt as an incompetent CIC. Of course , its true that the Right Wing Soviet regime also played a bit partin the conflict.
Walter Hinteler wrote:I've said this a couple of times before: you must know me better than anyone else.
Perhaps I do Walter........I get a kick out of what you write. Even though you have difficulty with the nuances of the English language, you are relentless in your quest to conquer that deficiency. I do admire your tenacity and your sense of humor even though I am sometimes on the receiving end of it.
Press on.......
:wink:
farmerman wrote:Quote:Ducking and dodging have always been part of your repertoire Walter.....it's not surprising you revert to it now.
Rayban, you seem somewhat angry this day. Are we getting enough rest? still in the anger management program?
PS, I hope we dont start slamming Roosevelt as an incompetent CIC. Of course , its true that the Right Wing Soviet regime also played a bit partin the conflict.
I suspect that when I get into my 70's and can no longer get it up on a regular basis I'll get a little touchy too.
Thanks, rayban, but these difficulties are at least partly resulting to the fact, the English and the American English on the other part of the pond vary sometimes more than just a bit.
Besides, I have the same difficulty with the nuances of French, Dutch and Latin, so I'm rather used to it.
nicely put Walter.
score 15 to 3 Walter wins.
Dys wrote:just a grunt on the ground with an M-14 (no class act was I)
I hope you noted that I was goaded by Frank Apisa into indentifying that I wore the USAF uniform, was a pilot and also that I would never claim to be a hero while firing the guns from the safety of an aircraft while guys like you could be faced with hand to hand combat at any moment. If I were captured, or faced with hand to hand combat, I can only hope that I would react with honor. I'm glad that I was never faced with any decisions in that regard.
No six hundred thousands were lost on Grant's watch. He did not become the Federal supreme commander until late in 1863. Certainly, during the campaign from the Rappahannock to Petersburg and then to Appomattox and the surrender of Lee's army, the butcher's bill was high. But it was high for the Army of Northern Virginia, as well, and that was the point. Throughout the war, Lincoln said he needed to "find someone who understands the numbers." In Grant, he had found that man, and Lincoln was well-satisfied.
Sherman's "butcher's bill" was actually rather low, all things considered. But then, he irresponsibly abandoned his primary objective--the destruction of John Bell Hood's Army of the Tennessee--and wandered off on the pointless "march to the sea." He left George Thomas to deal with Hood and the Army of the Tennessee, and that after taking all of Thomas' army, except two small divisions comprising one small corps. Thomas, however, was equal to the task, and scraping up men, mules and horses wherever he could find them, he assembled an army in Nashville and destroyed Hood's army, accomplishing the task which Sherman had abandoned.
So, as one can plainly see, Rayban once again is shooting his mouth off without knowing very damned much about the subject he chooses--an experience with which the members here become increasingly familiar.
