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Texas Effectively Bans Abortions

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 12:10 pm
@Mame,
Salesforce offers to help staff leave Texas as abortion law takes effect
Quote:
The cloud-based software giant Salesforce is offering to help relocate employees out of Texas following the state’s enactment of its extreme new abortion law.

Referring to the “incredibly personal issues” that the law creates, a message to the company’s entire workforce sent late on Friday said any employee and their family wishing to move elsewhere would receive assistance.

“Ohana if you want to move we’ll help you exit TX. Your choice,” the Salesforce chief executive, Marc Benioff, said in a tweet featuring a CNBC article about the offer, and using a term common in Hawaii for “family”.

In its message to workers, Salesforce, which is headquartered in California, did not directly mention Texas, where about 2,000 of its 56,000 global workers are based, or take a stance on the law. But its intention was clear.

“These are incredibly personal issues that directly impact many of us – especially women,” it said.

“We recognize and respect that we all have deeply held and different perspectives. As a company, we stand with all of our women at Salesforce and everywhere. If you have concerns about access to reproductive healthcare in your state, Salesforce will help relocate you and members of your immediate family.”

The company’s offer appears to be part of a growing corporate backlash against the Texas law, which took effect on 1 September when the US supreme court refused to block it.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 01:00 pm
@Mame,
Mame wrote:

Well, it's also imposing one's values onto others. Religious or moral. The thing is, you wouldn't go into someone's home and tell them what religion to practice, how to raise their kids, etc., but we seem to be okay telling women they have to have an unwanted child.

I predict 1) many women will obtain out of state abortions, 2) there will be a lot more babies up for adoption, and/or 3) there will be a higher use of the morning-after pill.

It's all so repressive and regressive and discouraging.


All this is aim at poor women not the middle class and above. Hell no woman I happen to care for can be force to bear a child they do not wish to and I am fairly sure there are millions of other men that feel the same about the women they care about.
hightor
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 01:15 pm
@BillRM,
somebody wrote:
Of course rich Texans will still be able to secure abortions for daughters, escorts, or girlfriends.
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mark noble
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 02:27 pm
@engineer,
There are 2 sides to this story.

1. If a person chooses to have a medical procedure performed on them, they finance it themselves and the 'performer' is willing - Case closed.
2. As a deterrent to stupidity - The law has credibility. Texas' labourforce is clearly abundant, at present.

Have a lovely day
mark noble
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 02:30 pm
@mark noble,
Of course, if someone is impregnated by means of rape - That's a different matter.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 07:58 pm
@BillRM,
It's a unique situation, but no one has the right to end the life of another, except in the case of execution after a fair trial, or in war. Except for the case of rape, no one forces anyone to get pregnant. You're concerned with what you consider to be the rights of women, but completely sociopathic about the rights of the developing fetus.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 09:01 pm
@Brandon9000,
Sorry the fetus is no more a human being at the first stages then the female eggs or the man sperm cells by themselves.

The women who life even in this day and age is at some risk carrying the demands of the fetuses to full term far far out weight the interests of the fetuses for those women who do not wish to take those risks and discomforts that come along trying to product a child from those fetuses.

The state had no business trying to force women to be unwilling breeders
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 09:03 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Sorry the fetus is no more a human being at the first stages then the female eggs or the man sperm cells by themselves.


This is nonsense. Talk to anyone who has suffered a miscarriage, even at the first stages of pregnancy.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 09:13 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
Sorry the fetus is no more a human being at the first stages then the female eggs or the man sperm cells by themselves.


This is nonsense. Talk to anyone who has suffered a miscarriage, even at the first stages of pregnancy.



LOL so you think that the emotions of women who wish to product a child and fail to do so for some reason should over rule the wishes of women who do not wish to product a child!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell when abortions was illegal women by the thousands would die by having unsafe abortion and you wish to go back to the coat hanger abortions!!!!!!!!!

I think that one of the greatest gift a woman can give a man is a child but that does not mean that I think that such a gift should be force under the power of the state with very special note when it come to rape and incest.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 11:01 pm
@BillRM,
You are making the argument that there is no difference between a sperm and an "early stage" fetus.

I am simply pointing out that is ridiculous.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2021 11:35 pm
The GOP's war on women is very much real. Don't believe us?
Watch this compilation of prominent Republicans
trashing everything from reproductive rights to equal pay.

Published on Oct 29, 2012

BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2021 06:04 am
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:

The GOP's war on women is very much real. Don't believe us?
Watch this compilation of prominent Republicans
trashing everything from reproductive rights to equal pay.

Published on Oct 29, 2012

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZSIV-F9lOY&t=117s[/youtube]


Some men with special note of a large percent of GOP men do not seem to like the fact that women are the gatekeepers for the next generation and they decide which men get to pass their blood line on.

They are wheeling out the power of the state to take that right away from women as must as possible even in the cases of rapes and incest.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2021 06:25 am
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Of course, if someone is impregnated by means of rape - That's a different matter.


So it ok when women become pregnant due to a failure of birth control to force women to go through the pain and the discomfort and the risk of even death to produce unwanted children with the state seizing their wombs in order to do so?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2021 07:13 am
No man, not even would-be fathers, has the right to force childbirth onto an unwilling woman.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2021 10:48 pm
zombie343 Rose
liked your Retweet
When I was 13 I found out I was pregnant. I had been raped. I was scared, confused and my parents told me I couldn’t get an abortion because “God.”

I attempted suicide. I was lucky I did not become a mother then. I am lucky I am alive.
I was a child.
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2021 03:01 pm
Editorial cartoon by Signe Wilkinson, 9-18-18, Philadelphia Inquirer

https://resources.arcamax.com/newspics/166/16614/1661430.gif
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 08:27 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Her womb have zero chance of infecting others that happen to be sharing the same space such as on airliners unlike covid.

Her womb does have a chance of determining whether some guy becomes a father or not however.

It is wrong to suggest that there is no external impact.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 10:42 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
Her womb have zero chance of infecting others that happen to be sharing the same space such as on airliners unlike covid.

Her womb does have a chance of determining whether some guy becomes a father or not however.

It is wrong to suggest that there is no external impact.

That doesn't justify the measures taken by this Texas law, however, which does not address the circumstance you describe at all.
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