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If Disney produced a NEW ROGER RABBIT film, and they desexualized Jessica Rabbit ... ?

 
 
Fri 12 Mar, 2021 09:54 pm
... In the new movie, would people be carrying on about that in a manner similar to how they carried on about Warner Bros.' decision to desexualize Lola Bunny in SPACE JAM 2?

Disney is obviously NOT coming out with any new ROGER RABBIT movie or movies whether they are sequels, prequels or reboots for a number of reasons. One of the big reasons is the current post-Eisner staff at Disney are NOT big fans of Jessica Rabbit from the original film. Even though the original movie was produced by Touchtone Pictures, Disney's ADULT film division, the current staff at Disney is concerned about hurting their family-friendly image.

Political correctness is a big thing now, and it's impacting how big studios like Disney and Warner Bros. handle cartoons now, past and present.

Would people be complaining if Disney made Jessica a more modest character? Would they be making a big stink over Jessica's redesign?

Back in 2019 people made a big stink over Sonic the Hedgehog's original film design for the SONIC movie that came out last year. People complained about it online and Sony listened.

It's NOT PC anymore to sexualize female characters for what's supposed to be kids'/family entertainment. This is a big reason why Minerva Mink and Hello Nurse were dropped from WB's ANIMANIACS reboot.

Lola Bunny is a character from a KIDS' movie. The bigwigs at WB made the right choice to desexualize the character for the new movie.

I am curious about this. Please help. Thank you.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Fri 12 Mar, 2021 10:37 pm
@JGoldman10,
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One of the big reasons is the current post-Eisner staff at Disney are NOT big fans of Jessica Rabbit from the original film.


Not quite true, as Disney did talk about the film as part of their new Prop Culture show. They even had Kathleen Turner (the voice of Jessica) appear. I told you this before.

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the current staff at Disney is concerned about hurting their family-friendly image.


Not really, based on their recent output with Marvel and Star Wars. Even their new film Raya & The Last Dragon is a bit too violent. One of their heavily marketed shows was about a woman suffering a mental breakdown caused by loss of everyone she loves.

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Would people be complaining if Disney made Jessica a more modest character? Would they be making a big stink over Jessica's redesign?


More likely, Disney would still keep her original design, but may lessen the sex appeal by reducing the breast size.

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Back in 2019 people made a big stink over Sonic the Hedgehog's original film design for the SONIC movie that came out last year. People complained about it online and Sony listened.


People complained because the original design was terrible. Even Sega complained about it. The uproar was enough to threaten the film's box office, which is what ultimately mattered.

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It's NOT PC anymore to sexualize female characters for what's supposed to be kids'/family entertainment.


That might have to do with more women being involved in animation production than in the 80s and 90s.

Besides, I do not expect Space Jam 2 to be even good. Honestly, the first film was terrible; I re-watched it recently for the first time since the 90s.
JGoldman10
 
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Fri 12 Mar, 2021 11:19 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

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One of the big reasons is the current post-Eisner staff at Disney are NOT big fans of Jessica Rabbit from the original film.


Not quite true, as Disney did talk about the film as part of their new Prop Culture show. They even had Kathleen Turner (the voice of Jessica) appear. I told you this before.


Okay. I don't know too much about Prop Culture, whatever that is. I was going by what I read online somewhere.

Rebelofnj wrote:

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Would people be complaining if Disney made Jessica a more modest character? Would they be making a big stink over Jessica's redesign?


More likely, Disney would still keep her original design, but may lessen the sex appeal by reducing the breast size.


That's what I'm talking about. They would probably give her more modest apparel too. There might be a few people who would complain about this, but I don't know. My question was hypothetical.

Rebelofnj wrote:

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Back in 2019 people made a big stink over Sonic the Hedgehog's original film design for the SONIC movie that came out last year. People complained about it online and Sony listened.


People complained because the original design was terrible. Even Sega complained about it. The uproar was enough to threaten the film's box office, which is what ultimately mattered.


I know that.

Rebelofnj wrote:

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It's NOT PC anymore to sexualize female characters for what's supposed to be kids'/family entertainment.


That might have to do with more women being involved in animation production than in the '80s and '90s.


That's true. There are also probably a lot of feminists involved in producing cartoons and comics these days. Animation and comics used to be very male-dominated and male-driven.

Space Jam wasn't a great movie. That's something we can agree on.
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JGoldman10
 
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Fri 12 Mar, 2021 11:58 pm
Political correctness may be a big thing now, but this isn't stopping SOME current cartoon makers from putting fanservice and/or violent content in their cartoons, a lot of which are being aimed at kids.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is still a popular cartoon franchise. There have been a number of series reboots in the past two decades. There's a lot of violence in them.

The original Teen Titans cartoon was very fanservice-y. There's occasional fanservice in Teen Titans Go!.

However these cartoons are shown on cable/satellite TV where censorship is not really an issue.
oralloy
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 12:00 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
More likely, Disney would still keep her original design, but may lessen the sex appeal by reducing the breast size.

They'd probably avoid the nudity too. I still remember the controversy when the laserdisc of the movie came out.

https://variety.com/1994/voices/columns/jessica-rabbit-revealed-119154/
JGoldman10
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 12:02 am
@oralloy,
Right. The infamous upskirt scene that was edited. They would probably cut down on the sexual innuendos and jokes too.
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JGoldman10
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 12:04 am
@oralloy,
I think Roger Rabbit is one of these cartoon franchises that fell into relative obscurity. Most folks don't even talk about it anymore.
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JGoldman10
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 12:16 am
What is dumb to me is that WB made the executive decision to strip Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam of their guns in current Looney Tunes cartoons. What's the point of that if they can still use other weapons and do violent things?

Speedy Gonzales is okay apparently but Pepé Le Pew isn't. Pepé is a character that "glorifies rape culture." Speedy is going to appear in Space Jam 2 but Pepe isn't.

I think Disney has taken a very extremist stance regarding censorship on Disney Plus.
JGoldman10
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 12:18 am
@oralloy,
I think people will find an excuse to complain about anything and nitpick at it these days. Current movies aren't exempt.
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 02:47 am
@JGoldman10,
America doesn’t have a problem with people dropping anvils and pianos on people’s heads, nor does it have a problem with people attaching sticks of dynamite to helium filled balloons in order to blow up bird nests.

America has a problem with armed groups like the NRA shooting up schools and lobbying the government in order to make it easier for paedophiles to butcher children.

That’s why.
oralloy
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 02:52 am
@izzythepush,
The NRA does no such thing. The guns were removed from the movie because the studio hates freedom and civil liberties.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 03:18 am
@oralloy,
You’re one of them, you have openly fantasised about urinating on the bodies of children murdered by the NRA.

You can deny it all you want, but just because you have the memory of a goldfish doesn’t mean everyone else doesn’t remember.

The NRA exists for one reason only, to murder children.
JGoldman10
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 03:54 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

America doesn’t have a problem with people dropping anvils and pianos on people’s heads, nor does it have a problem with people attaching sticks of dynamite to helium filled balloons in order to blow up bird nests.


These things aren't exactly realistic. People also drop safes on other people's heads in cartoons.

izzythepush wrote:

America has a problem with armed groups like the NRA shooting up schools and lobbying the government in order to make it easier for paedophiles to butcher children.

That’s why.


Well yes. There was too much bad press regarding gun use that is why WB banned Fudd and Sam using guns in their current cartoons.
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JGoldman10
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 03:55 am
@oralloy,
What movie?
Rebelofnj
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 04:04 am
@JGoldman10,
The gun issue was mentioned as a tongue-in-cheek joke in the newer Looney Tunes shorts.

Elmer Fudd said he no longer uses guns because they are inhumane to use against animals, and decided to use absurd amounts of dynamite instead.

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I think Disney has taken a very extremist stance regarding censorship on Disney Plus.


Care to explain? They placed 5 second content warnings on some older content like The Muppet Show and Peter Pan, but they haven't removed them from the service or edit any offensive material out.
oralloy
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 04:07 am
@JGoldman10,
Maybe it wasn't a movie. I was referring to your post here:
https://able2know.org/topic/556394-1#post-7113192
oralloy
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 04:09 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
You're one of them, you have openly fantasised about urinating on the bodies of children

That's a lie.


izzythepush wrote:
children murdered by the NRA.

That's a lie.


izzythepush wrote:
you have the memory of a goldfish

That's a lie.


izzythepush wrote:
The NRA exists for one reason only, to murder children.

That's a lie.
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JGoldman10
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 04:23 am
@oralloy,
I don't know if Sam and Fudd are barred from using guns in Space Jam 2.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 07:45 am
@JGoldman10,
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The original Teen Titans cartoon was very fanservice-y.


The show was not that heavy on fanservice, if at all. The show was produced for younger audiences and the characters were teenagers, so they couldn't be shown in a provocative manner as you claim. If anything, the show was much more modest than the 80s comics.

Once again, we discussed this before. Either you keep forgetting, or you keep wanting to talk about the same things over and over.
https://able2know.org/topic/530541-40#post-7049778
JGoldman10
 
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Sat 13 Mar, 2021 08:52 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Yes. We know, it's supposed to be a kids' show. That didn't stop the production team from putting questionable, age-inappropriate material into it.

They would have never gotten away with doing what they did in the show had it been shown on regular broadcast TV.

I've seen the show. As a Christian I don't know what prompted me to watch it in the first place.
 

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