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If Disney produced a NEW ROGER RABBIT film, and they desexualized Jessica Rabbit ... ?

 
 
JGoldman10
 
  1  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 05:33 am
@Rebelofnj,
I don't follow memes. I do know that "We live in a society..." Joker meme was a popular meme.
JGoldman10
 
  0  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 05:35 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:


Second, what is something from your works that is considered offensive in modern society?



Nothing. I am going to produce clean, kid-friendly cartoons and comics. Stuff anyone of any age can look at.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 05:36 am
@JGoldman10,
Instead of moaning about what you can’t do, and complaining about pc snowflakes why don’t you actually put something online?

If you don’t do anything you can’t fail.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Tue 30 Mar, 2021 05:45 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

Rebelofnj wrote:


Second, what is something from your works that is considered offensive in modern society?



Nothing. I am going to produce clean, kid-friendly cartoons and comics. Stuff anyone of any age can look at.


Then what are you worried about? You're complaining about censorship from "snowflakes" when that is unlikely to happen to you at all.

And complaints are not going to prevent you from working on your comic. Dave Sim has been called a misogynist since the 90s but that hasn't stopped him from working on his comics.
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JGoldman10
 
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Tue 30 Mar, 2021 06:40 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

Rebelofnj wrote:


Second, what is something from your works that is considered offensive in modern society?



Nothing. I am going to produce clean, kid-friendly cartoons and comics. Stuff anyone of any age can look at.


To further address Reb's question, a few people I know have described some of a characters I created as "racist". A lot of my characters are caricatures but they are not intended to negatively stereotype any group or groups of people in real life.

I am not creating negative racial and/or ethnic caricatures of people.

Some people have said my stuff is dated. Some said the type of humor I am going to depict is dated. They complained about my stuff being old-fashioned; they said it belongs in the '80s and '90s and in decades earlier than that. So what? I am making cartoons and comics that are throwbacks to old cartoons and comics, respectively. There IS a market for retro, throwbacky cartoons and comics.

I can still modernize them a bit.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 06:48 am
@JGoldman10,
What do you want, to make your own comics how you want, or make comics people want to read?

You can’t have it both ways. Nobody is stopping you doing your comics, you’re complaining because “snowflakes” don’t want to read them.

There may well be another reason nobody wants to read your comics, one you can’t consider.
JGoldman10
 
  1  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 06:56 am
@izzythepush,
Okay. What do people want to see in comics and in animated cartoons? I am not using sex to sell my material and I am not including any LGBTQIA characters or any kind of LGBTQIA-related stuff in my cartoons and comics.
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 07:00 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

To further address Reb's question, a few people I know have described some of a characters I created as "racist". A lot of my characters are caricatures but they are not intended to negatively stereotype any group of people in real life.

I am not creating negative racial and/or ethnic caricatures of people.

Some people have said my stuff is dated. Some said the type of humor I am going to depict is dated. They complained about my stuff being old-fashioned; they said it belongs in the '80s and '90s and in decades earlier than that. So what? I am making cartoons and comics that are throwbacks to old cartoons and comics, respectively. There IS a market for retro, throwbacky cartoons and comics.

I can still modernize them a bit.


It is hard to tell how true those claims by other people are because we haven't anything from these projects. You keep talking about these works you are doing, but there is nothing to show for it. No art, no scripts, not even a title. I asked previously about showing a single line of dialogue, but you didn't have any.

JGoldman10 wrote:

I am not using sex to sell my material and I am not including any LGBTQIA characters or any kind of LGBTQIA-related stuff in my cartoons and comics.


No one is asking you to add that stuff if you don't want to.

Just post something.
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izzythepush
 
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Tue 30 Mar, 2021 07:34 am
@JGoldman10,
Nobody is telling you what to do.

All this false indignation is because you will never write comics for children not because of snowflakes or political correctness but because you will never get off your backside and do anything.

Sloth is one of the seven deadly sins.
tsarstepan
 
  3  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 11:01 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

To further address Reb's question, a few people I know have described some of a characters I created as "racist". A lot of my characters are caricatures but they are not intended to negatively stereotype any group or groups of people in real life.

I am not creating negative racial and/or ethnic caricatures of people.

Laughing Laughing Laughing
FFS! You literally wrote an entire thread based on positive stereotypes. These traits can also be considered racist. Caricatures are often oversimplified depictions and can also (rightfully so) be considered racist.

JGoldman10 wrote:

Rebelofnj wrote:


Second, what is something from your works that is considered offensive in modern society?



Nothing. I am going to produce clean, kid-friendly cartoons and comics. Stuff anyone of any age can look at.


Quote:

Some people have said my stuff is dated. Some said the type of humor I am going to depict is dated. They complained about my stuff being old-fashioned; they said it belongs in the '80s and '90s and in decades earlier than that. So what? I am making cartoons and comics that are throwbacks to old cartoons and comics, respectively. There IS a market for retro, throwbacky cartoons and comics.


Quote:
I can still modernize them a bit.

Choose a bloody side already. You clearly don't understand nuance in storytelling.

And people are telling you (rightfully so) that this direction which you insist on taking ISN'T CHILD FRIENDLY. Go on. Waste years on creating this child unfriendly content. And as predictable as it is, you are not going to sell to many discerning parents or self-respecting children.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 11:24 am
@tsarstepan,
How many people have seen his characters?

I don’t know any, but those that have think they’re racist.

What does that say.
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JGoldman10
 
  0  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 08:03 pm
@tsarstepan,
Speedy Gonzales has been dubbed a non-PC character because he was seen as a negative Mexican stereotype. That was a big reason classic Speedy cartoons haven't been shown on American TV in a long time.

They make a joke and reference to Speedy being non-PC here:



However the LATINO COMMUNITY LIKES HIM:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/speedy-gonzales-hispanic_n_4039787
http://rptimes.com/rocky-point-times-2/2016/06/speedy-gonzales-relationship-with-the-hispanic-community/

Explain that.

Comedian "Mr. Fluffy" is voicing the character in Space Jam 2:

https://nypost.com/2021/03/08/has-cancel-culture-doomed-the-space-jam-sequel/
https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/cancel-culture-comes-for-space-jam-sequel/news-story/efc3c5aa03704d24960c189f90ed72b2
tsarstepan
 
  1  
Tue 30 Mar, 2021 09:51 pm
@JGoldman10,
I don't understand your point as a reply to mine. I could give a flipping rat's ass about Speedy. You still haven't responded on how caricatures (using alleged positive stereotypes) aren't racist.

1. I have no idea why you think I give another rat's ass about the Space Jam sequel or...
2. Why you think I'll give any legitimate credibility to Trump-supporting NYPost or Rupert Murdoch's turd-filled news.com.au?!

There's literally nothing in that post you responded to that implies cancel culture. I just wrote bluntly about your prospects in a possible family-friendly market. If no one buys your substandard work? That's not cancel culture. You've been poisoned too much by conservative garbage sources.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 31 Mar, 2021 01:29 am
@tsarstepan,
It’s not cancel culture if it doesn’t exist, and it won’t.

Mr Goldman talks about his comics the way Trump talked about the 2020 election. Long before the election he rubbished it, blaming malign forces for his eventual defeat. With MrGoldman it’s worse than that, not only are snowflakes stopping anyone from reading his work, they’re stopping him producing it.

It reminds me of the episode of The Simpsons where Skinner goes looking for Bart and finds the one place he was sure he would be closed down years ago.

“Am I so out of touch?”

“No, it’s the children who are wrong.”
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JGoldman10
 
  0  
Wed 31 Mar, 2021 02:12 am
@tsarstepan,
What does Trump have to do with this?
JGoldman10
 
  1  
Wed 31 Mar, 2021 02:33 am
@tsarstepan,
I was just using Speedy as an example.

Is the cartoon mascot that Romney used for his presidential campaign racist?:

izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 31 Mar, 2021 02:46 am
@JGoldman10,
If you had an IQ of 170 the phrase Trump supporting NY Post would not need to be explained to you.

I have no problems whatsoever in understanding what Tsar said, and I don’t claim to be a genius.
JGoldman10
 
  0  
Wed 31 Mar, 2021 03:22 am
@izzythepush,
What does "Trump-supporting NYPost or Rupert Murdoch's news.com.au" as Tsar said, have to do with cartoons?

PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. Do not try to insult my intelligence.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TSAR IS TALKING ABOUT AND/OR REFERRING TO.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 31 Mar, 2021 03:24 am
@JGoldman10,
I’m not insulting your intelligence. You’re the one who claims to be a genius, so the flaming obvious shouldn’t have to be explained to you.

This is what happens when you let Jimmy Swaggart do your thinking for you.
Rebelofnj
 
  4  
Wed 31 Mar, 2021 03:29 am
@JGoldman10,
That is a video from The Onion, which is not an actual news organization. It is a satirical website.

We talked about The Onion several times before, so you can't claim you didn't know about them.
 

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