rayban1 wrote:Steve wrote:but this is wartime
we have to employ every technological, psychological, sociological and every other logical means we can to defeat these bastards.
because if we dont have the basic human right of going about our daily business in safety, free from the risk of being ripped to pieces, the other freedoms and rights count for nothing.
Very well said Steve......may I have permission of use this quote when one of our libs starts to whine about the Patriot Act?
The oddity about this quote is that if the patriot act is abused American's are not free from doing business safely. I know we won't be 'ripped to peices' but jailed is no better for business.
The free market, to be as efficient as we want it to be, needs to be free. It is what has made capitalism so efficient. The patriot act, in certain provisions, threatens the freedom of business people and patrons of those businesses to conduct thier business freely (amongst other things).
It seems Steve's statement is to secure some freedom and the cost of other freedoms. Always a dangerous trade off AND exactly what the stated goal of the 'enemy' is. To destroy American life as we know it.
The founding fathers made skeptical provisions of thier government for a reason. Should we update our methods for capturing data - sure - should we allow the government to observe the private life of all of it's citizenry on a whim - scary, and unconstitutional. I, for one, am not willing to suspend my God given rights as a human to gain a little short terms freedom at the hands of fear mongers like terrorists or certain government officials.
TTF