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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 05:46 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
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New inquiry into 'police failings' that led to killing of Brazilian
By Sophie Goodchild, Chief Reporter
Published: 22 January 2006

...Reports have said that Commander Cressida Dick, who was in charge of operations on the day Mr de Menezes was killed, told IPCC investigators that she ordered firearms officers only to "stop" the Brazilian...
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Which of course is what they did... by seven dum dum bullets to the head.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2006 12:55 am
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Special Branch 'altered official log' to cover up fatal Menezes blunder

By Maxine Frith
Published: 30 January 2006

The family of Jean Charles de Menezes, the innocent Brazilian shot dead by police at Stockwell Tube station last July, have demanded a public inquiry into his death following allegations that Special Branch officers changed vital evidence in an attempt to cover up fatal blunders in the case.

An undercover surveillance team altered an official log to hide the fact that they had wrongly identified Mr Menezes as a suspect in the failed July 21 bombings in London, according to a leaked copy of the official report into the shooting.

Mr Menezes, a 27-year-old electrician, was shot seven times in the head. Armed officers mistakenly believed he was a suicide bomber as he boarded a Tube train on 22 July.

Earlier this month a confidential report into the case by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) was passed to the Crown Prosecution Service, which will decide whether any of the officers should face criminal charges.

A leaked copy of the report obtained by the News of the Worldsaid the IPCC found that the undercover surveillance team saw Mr Menezes coming out of a house in Tulse Hill and, according to a first draft of a police control room log, identified him as Hussein Osman, a suspect in the July 21 attacks. Commander Cressida Dick, the Scotland Yard officer responsible for the firearms team, then instigated Operation Kratos, the anti-terrorist strategy that permits suspected suicide bombers to be shot.
The IPCC report found that 10 hours after the shooting, by which time it was known the dead man was innocent, the Special Branch team attended a debriefing meeting in which they were allowed to make alterations to the log. A line in it was changed from saying the team said Mr Menezes "was Osman" by the insertion of the word "not" - passing the blame to the Scotland Yard team.

The amendments were supposed to be signed and accompanied by an explanation, but this was not done, in an apparent attempt to pass off the revised log as the original. According to the newspaper, the IPCC report concludes: "This looks like an attempt to try to distance Special Branch from the decision [to shoot Mr Menezes]."

The alleged changes were made 14 hours before Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, was told that the dead man was the victim of a tragic case of mistaken identity. The surveillance team has reportedly denied changing the log and claims that elsewhere it makes clear that doubts had been raised about the identification.

Asad Rehman, who represents the family, said: "From the family's perspective this is just one more in a long line of lies and deception. It makes them more adamant to learn how and why he died. The only way that can be done is by a full public inquiry."

The family has called on the CPS to reach a decision on whether to prosecute by 16 February.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2006 05:32 am
The independent says
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A line in it was changed from saying the team said Mr Menezes "was Osman" by the insertion of the word "not" - passing the blame to the Scotland Yard team


I dont suppose this is significant...except perhaps to the Menezes family.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 03:19 am
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De Menezes family furious over Met 'sex smear' on son

By Sophie Goodchild, Chief Reporter
Published: 12 March 2006

Scotland Yard was at the centre of a new row over the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes following allegations that he was the suspect in a rape case.

It has emerged that the 27-year-old electrician, gunned down by armed officers at Stockwell Tube station, is being linked with a sex attack in London.

Officers have contacted lawyers acting for the dead man's family to ask for permission to examine DNA samples taken after his death. These are understood to be held by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) which has been investigating the shooting and has also been contacted by the Metropolitan Police.

The inquiry is in response to a call, more than six months after the Brazilian's death, from a rape victim who named Mr de Menezes as her attacker.

Sources close to his family have reacted with fury to the allegations. They accuse the Metropolitan police of deliberately leaking the details of the rape inquiry in an attempt to deflect attention from the investigation into the shooting of Mr de Menezes, who was mistaken for a terrorist by armed officers.

His relatives are already pursuing a complaint against Sir Ian Blair, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police who, they allege, misled the public in the wake of the shooting.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is also considering whether to bring charges against the officers involved in the death of Mr de Menezes.

A source told The Independent on Sunday: "This is a deliberate attempt to deflect the blame. First [the police] tried to say he was a terrorist and now this... he is no longer here to defend himself."
Last night, the Metropolitan Police confirmed that inquiries were continuing into the alleged rape, which happened in the West End of London.

The Met said in a statement: "The victim of a rape in the West End more than three years ago contacted us earlier this year and provided the name of a suspect. The name was given as that of Jean Charles de Menezes... and inquiries are continuing."

Mr de Menezes was shot dead by armed officers on 22 July, the day after the failed copycat bombings on the London Underground. Eyewitness accounts of the shooting initially suggested that the Brazilian electrician was a suicide bomber - an impression the police did not try to alter.

Surveillance officers searching for Hussein Osman, who was allegedly involved in the failed bombings, had been staking out the flats in Tulse Hill from which Mr de Menezes emerged.

The Independent on Sunday last month revealed that the IPCC report alleges police tried to fake evidence relating to the killing by altering the police log. According to the report an officer outside the flats wrongly identified Mr de Menezesas Osman and firearms officers were dispatched to stop him. Once it was known an innocent man had been killed, the log was altered so that instead of reading "it was Osman", it read "it was not Osman".
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 02:00 pm
There's no one quite so devious as the British authorities.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 04:09 pm
but surely mct they would not insinuate menesez was a sex pervert unless he was a sex pervert deserving of bing shot. going to work
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2006 02:08 am
We're shooting sex perverts now? Fair enough. Rolling Eyes

(I know you're joking Steve, but I can't find an avatar which expresses my confusion and disgruntlement precisely enough)
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2006 06:06 am
I can understand your confusion McT. May have had something to do with France 31 England 6 Sad

What I meant was that the Metropolitan police obviously think that by blackening the man's name it somehow makes their inexcusable and criminal act more acceptable. Just shows how desperate they are.

Anyway now we have the news (I wonder how that happened?) that Ian Blair has been taping confidential phone calls with prominent people including (cardinal sin here) the Attorney General and mate of that other Blair Tony. Ian Blair is finished imo. I dont think he'll last the week.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2006 06:26 am
The boys in blue tried this before when they "let it be known" that he, Menesez, was in the country without a valid visa/ work permit.

Distasteful doesn't cover it.

Blair #2, yes, he should go.

Rugger buggers? They all had a tummyache, poor things. Smile
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2006 06:31 am
If he is so dilatory about observing the law on recording phone conversations with government law officers, how concerned should the rest of you be about your own phone calls being taped?

And Sir Ian breaks the law targetting the Attorney General, what else might he have done with lower ranked subjects?

Germany plays rugby as well, as you've learnt recently, Steve: civilisation is faced with ruin.
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sumac
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2006 06:37 am
College basketball is very active here at the moment.

Wiretapping? Now where have I heard that recently?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2006 06:53 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
... Germany plays rugby as well...
I had somehow managed to forget this...perhaps just wishing it was not true.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 01:55 am
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Met chief's aide 'knew of shooting mistake'

By Nigel Morris
Published: 17 March 2006

Sir Ian Blair faces new questions over when he knew that the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes as a suspected suicide bomber was a mistake.

The Metropolitan Police Commissioner has always maintained that he did not learn of the Brazilian electrician's innocence until 24 hours after he was shot dead at 10am on 22 July last year at Stockwell Tube station.

That afternoon Sir Ian said the shooting was "directly linked" to the hunt for the men behind four failed bombings a day earlier. It was not until the morning of 23 July that the commissioner announced that a terrible mistake had happened. His version of events, and whether police misled the public, is being investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

The BBC yesterday reported that a "senior officer" within Sir Ian's office was told of fears six hours after the killing that the wrong person could have been targeted. That claim contradicts Sir Ian or leaves the possibility that he was not kept abreast of events.

Initially Scotland Yard "emphatically" denied the BBC claim. Last night it declined to comment.

Sir Ian will not be questioned until all the information about the killing has been gathered by the IPCC.

Sir Ian Blair faces new questions over when he knew that the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes as a suspected suicide bomber was a mistake.

The Metropolitan Police Commissioner has always maintained that he did not learn of the Brazilian electrician's innocence until 24 hours after he was shot dead at 10am on 22 July last year at Stockwell Tube station.

That afternoon Sir Ian said the shooting was "directly linked" to the hunt for the men behind four failed bombings a day earlier. It was not until the morning of 23 July that the commissioner announced that a terrible mistake had happened. His version of events, and whether police misled the public, is being investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).
The BBC yesterday reported that a "senior officer" within Sir Ian's office was told of fears six hours after the killing that the wrong person could have been targeted. That claim contradicts Sir Ian or leaves the possibility that he was not kept abreast of events.

Initially Scotland Yard "emphatically" denied the BBC claim. Last night it declined to comment.

Sir Ian will not be questioned until all the information about the killing has been gathered by the IPCC.
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 03:48 am
That is the point- (because there is a conspiracy within the Met to damage of discredit Sir Ian Blair) that either he lied to the public, or he was not told by his staff what was going on; that is, he does not enjoy the confidence nor the loyalty of his staff
Either way, it looks bad for him.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 8 Apr, 2006 11:28 pm
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Leak reveals official story of London bombings

· Al-Qaeda not linked, says government
· Internet used to plan 7/7 attack


Mark Townsend, crime correspondent
Sunday April 9, 2006
The Observer

The official inquiry into the 7 July London bombings will say the attack was planned on a shoestring budget from information on the internet, that there was no 'fifth-bomber' and no direct support from al-Qaeda, although two of the bombers had visited Pakistan.
The first forensic account of the atrocity that claimed the lives of 52 people, which will be published in the next few weeks, will say that attacks were the product of a 'simple and inexpensive' plot hatched by four British suicide bombers bent on martyrdom.

Far from being the work of an international terror network, as originally suspected, the attack was carried out by four men who had scoured terror sites on the internet. Their knapsack bombs cost only a few hundred pounds, according to the first completed draft of the government's definitive report into the blasts.

The Home Office account, compiled by a senior civil servant at the behest of Home Secretary Charles Clarke, also discounts the existence of a fifth bomber. After the bombings, police found an unused rucksack of explosives in the bombers' abandoned car at Luton station, which led to a manhunt for a missing suspect. Similarly, it found nothing to support the theory that an al-Qaeda fixer, presumed to be from Pakistan, was instrumental in planning the attacks.

A Whitehall source said: 'The London attacks were a modest, simple affair by four seemingly normal men using the internet.'

Confirmation of the nature of the attacks will raise fresh concerns over the vulnerability of Britain to an attack by small, unsophisticated groups. A fortnight after 7 July, an unconnected group of four tried to duplicate the attack, but their devices failed to detonate.

However, the findings will draw criticism for failing to address concerns as to why no action was taken against the bombers despite the fact that one of them, Mohammed Siddique Khan, was identified by intelligence officers months before the attack. A report into the attack by the Commons intelligence and security committee, which could be published alongside the official narrative, will question why MI5 called off surveillance of the ringleader of the 7 July bombings.

Patrick Mercer, shadow homeland security spokesman, said the official narrative's findings would only lead to calls for an independent inquiry to answer further questions surrounding 7 July.

He said: 'A series of reports such as this narrative simply does not answer questions such as the reduced terror alert before the attack, the apparent involvement of al-Qaeda and links to earlier or later terrorist plots.'

The official Home Office report into the attacks does, however, decide that the four suicide bombers - Siddique Khan, Hasib Hussain, Shehzad Tanweer and Jermaine Lindsay - were partly inspired by Khan's trips to Pakistan, though the meeting between the four men and known militants in Pakistan is seen as ideological, rather than fact-finding.

A videotape of Mohammed Siddique Khan released after the attacks also featured footage of Osama bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri. The Home Office believes the tape was edited after the suicide attacks and dismisses it as evidence of al-Qaeda's involvement in the attack.

Khan is confirmed as ringleader of the attacks, though the Yorkshire-born bomber's apparent links to other suspected terrorists are not discussed for legal reasons.

The report also investigates the psychological make-up and behaviour of the four bombers during the run-up to the attack. Using intelligence compiled in the nine months since, the account paints a portrait of four British men who in effect led double lives.

It exposes how the quartet adopted an extreme interpretation of Islam, juxtaposed with a willingness to enjoy a 'western' lifestyle - in particular Jermaine Lindsay, the bomber from Berkshire.

According to the report, the attacks were largely motivated by concerns over foreign policy and the perception that it was deliberately anti-Muslim, although the four men were also driven by the promise of immortality.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 12:59 am
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Officer who challenged Met chief may lose job

Vikram Dodd
Tuesday April 18, 2006
The Guardian


A high profile Scotland Yard officer who has repeatedly clashed with his bosses over the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes faces being ousted from his job, the Guardian has learned.

Brian Paddick gave evidence to the official inquiry into the shooting of the Brazilian at Stockwell tube station last July, that challenged claims by his boss, the Metropolitan police commissioner Sir Ian Blair, and is also facing an allegation that he leaked information about the killing to a BBC journalist.

Mr Paddick told the Independent Police Complaints Commission investigation into the commissioner's conduct, that officials within Sir Ian's own office feared the wrong man had been killed just hours after the shooting. Sir Ian has repeatedly said that he and his aides had no inkling until the morning of the next day that the man shot eight times by officers hunting suicide bombers was in fact innocent.
Within the past fortnight Mr Paddick has been told by his bosses that they want to move him out of his post as deputy chief of territorial policing in the capital, according to several sources. Scotland Yard chiefs have told Mr Paddick they want to move him to a role where he does not come into the force's central London headquarters and has little contact with the public. He would be "put out to grass" until later this year when he reaches 30 years' service and can retire on a full police pension. Talks between the two sides are continuing.

Jenny Jones, a member of the Metropolitan Police Authority which oversees the force, said: "It does look like a punishment for the IPCC statement and the alleged leak. We will be asking questions about this.

"Whistleblowing is an important part of democracy, letting people know when misinformation is being given. We need to know if he's being punished for whistleblowing or for something else."

A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said that discussions about the postings of senior officers were "always ongoing" and declined to discuss individual cases.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2006 01:25 am
de Menezes, the Brazilian man shot dead by police who mistook him for a suicide bomber, has been cleared of an allegation of rape by forensic tests, according to Scotland Yard.

The victim of a rape attack in London's West End more than three years ago alleged earlier this year that Mr de Menezes had committed the offence.

Experts compared forensic material recovered from the victim and a sample of Mr de Menezes' blood, after his family gave permission for a comparison to be made.

Scotland Yard said that tests showed, Mr de Menezes was not responsible rape.

De Menezes cleared of rape
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sun 7 May, 2006 06:37 am
The real story of London 7th July 2005

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7am The four don their military-style rucksacks in the increasingly busy car park. Khan had loaded the Nissan Micra with more explosives than required. Contrary to speculation though, no fifth bomber was ever expected to carry a fifth rucksack of explosives holding two nail-encased bottles that were later found wedged beneath the front passenger seat. In the boot 14 components for explosive devices are also left. CCTV cameras, designed to capture car thieves, film the four engaged in a final prayer.

7.21am Looking like day-trippers, the four stroll onto the southbound platform of Luton station. Leading the group is Hussain, his hands tucked in pockets. Lindsay follows, his white trainers poking from beneath a pair of loose jeans. Khan comes next, with only a white cap visible. Bringing up the rear is Tanweer, who had spent the previous night playing cricket. Tanweer appears relaxed, his rucksack slung over one shoulder.

7:40am The four bombers catch a Thameslink train, which winds through the affluent commuter belt of Hertfordshire towards King's Cross.

8:26am The quartet are captured walking across the concourse of London's busiest station. They are chatting; Hussain is laughing. Minutes later, they are huddled in a final, earnest conversation.

8.42am Tanweer catches the Circle Line east towards the heart of the City, entering the second carriage of six on train number 204 where he stands by its rear sliding doors.

8.43am Khan boards Circle Line train number 216 headed west. He stands by its first set of double doors in the second carriage.

8.49am Lindsay gets onto Piccadilly Line train number 311 travelling towards the West End and stands by rear doors in the front carriage. The train is described as 'extraordinarily full'. More than 900 passengers are crammed on board. Hussain, meanwhile, waits for a Northern Line service towards Camden.

8.50am Tanweer places his rucksack on the floor around 40 seconds after the tube pulls out from Liverpool Street. Twenty feet below Spitalfields' historical streets, the cricketer detonates his device. Yards away, Michael, a consultant, witnesses a 'flash of orange-yellow light and what appeared to be silver streaks, which I think was some of the glass going across.' Then, silence and darkness. Smothered in blood, Michael assumed he was dying.


fully story at http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1769440,00.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2006 01:47 am
http://i4.tinypic.com/15gf042.jpg

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· Intelligence on bombers sent to detectives in 2003
· Technician helped make anti-western propaganda


Ed Vulliamy
Saturday June 24, 2006
The Guardian


A computer expert who worked alongside two of the July 7 bombers claims today that he tried to warn the police about their activities almost two years before the suicide attacks.



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source: The Guardian, 24 June 2006, pages 10 and 11

online:
IT expert: I worked with 7/7 bombers and warned police
The IT man who tried to stop the 7/7 bombers
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jun, 2006 06:09 am
I spent quite some time studying those pieces in the guardian Walter. The cell that eventually produced the bombers met up at a party to celebrate the attacks of 9/11. They operated out of an Islamic book shop, a gym and a youth centre in Beeston...set up using public money.
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