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Attack in London Today

 
 
thethinkfactory
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 05:48 am
Steve:

I am sure you can't see your 'destroy' language is just as extreme, just as harmful, and just as radical as your supposed enemies. But that it is. They welcome your fire - and when you kill one, you create ten.

Same as any extremist group - jewish, muslim, christian. Learn from America's mistakes - you cannot use military force to remove or destroy all of them. We have created FAR many more terrorists than we have destroyed - and our body count is pretty danged high...

You need a different approach besides hatred and desruction.

TTF
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 05:55 am
read what i said TFF

i'm talking about challenging IDEAS.

Scientific theories can be discredited and junked. We can do the same with religious ideas. And if you think I'm trying to prove the non existance of God, then far from it. I'm out to destroy the positively evil ideas that grow out of organised religions that motivate people to commit the most horrendous crimes, and in fact give God Allah or Yahweh a bad Name.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 06:03 am
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Scientific theories can be discredited and junked. We can do the same with religious ideas


Can we steve? Science depends on doubt, religion requires a complete and utter absence of doubt.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 06:14 am
well we can try
at worst we can hold up these ideas to ridicule
and we can show how they can be harmful.

I was watching on tv some poor black kid being berated and shouted at by a group of adults for being possessed by evil spirits. She was about 4 years old, with tears streaming down her face pathetically waving her arms about trying to ward off the attacks.

Its things like that and what happened a fortnight ago in London that prompt me to say enough. These ideas must be expunged.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 06:25 am
Superstition and organised religion spring from the same faults in the human psyche. That poor child is being tortured by bigots all over the world except that sometimes she's a male, sometimes he's an adult and all the time he or she is of every hue.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 06:34 am
goodfielder wrote:
Superstition and organised religion spring from the same faults in the human psyche. That poor child is being tortured by bigots all over the world except that sometimes she's a male, sometimes he's an adult and all the time he or she is of every hue.


agree with that

but we know more and we know better than primitive man.

why tolerate their wrong headed and harmful ideas just because they say "this is our religion"?

gotta go

okbye
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 06:50 am
Not again I hope:

Quote:
Three Tube stations in London - Shepherd's Bush, Warren Street and Oval - are evacuated after incidents, police say.

No Injuries reported, one minor explosion


From an email.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 07:22 am
Hmmm...what's going on. Police now saying three small devices exploded.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 07:35 am
All I can say, is at least they heard our messages and are using "detonators only", which has limited the casualties.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 07:45 am
Or they were just copy catters wanting to cause alarm but no injuries.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 07:54 am
we did bombs a fortnight ago

cricket is much more interesting Australia all out 190!
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 09:01 am
BREAKING NEWS
Explosions struck three London Underground stations and a bus at midday Thursday in a chilling but less deadly replay of the suicide bombings that killed 56 people two weeks ago. Only one person was reported wounded, but the lunch-hour explosions caused major shock and disruption in the capital and were hauntingly similar to the July 7 bombings by four attackers.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRITAIN_UNDERGROUND?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION=INTERNATIONAL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 09:11 am
Here we go again

I guess people saw one man throw something at a train and they chased him down and the police have him cornered somewhere.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 10:43 am
Quote:
At a glance

The following is a summary of events as they unfolded in London today, with four attempted explosions - three on tube trains and one on a bus - causing the evacuation of much of the underground system


Press Association
Thursday July 21, 2005

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2005/07/21/shep372.jpg
Police and emergency services outside Shepherd's Bush tube station following reports of explosions at three tube stations and a bus. Photograph: Andrew Stuart/AP



12.25pm: Police evacuate Shepherd's Bush tube station on the Hammersmith and City line following an attempt to set off an explosion.

12.30pm: Emergency services are first called to Oval tube station. Around 20 or 30 passengers are evacuated from a tube train saying that they had seen "white smoke". There are also reports of a man dumping a rucksack in a carriage then fleeing as the doors closed.

12.45pm: London ambulance service sends five vehicles to Warren Street tube station after reports of a rucksack exploding on a train in a tunnel just outside the station.

1.15pm: Pubs and offices near Warren Street tube station are evacuated.

1.22pm: London Underground says it has suspended services on the Hammersmith and City, Victoria and Northern lines.

1.30pm: The driver of a number 26 bus reports hearing a bang followed by a smell of smoke coming from the upper deck while driving along Hackney Road in east London.

1.45pm: Transport for London confirms it has imposed a code amber at all three affected tube lines which means trains are taken to the next station and passengers evacuated to above ground.

1.45pm: Police with sniffer dogs comb the pavement along Euston Road, near Warren Street and the surrounding area.

2.05pm: Transport for London confirms that four lines - the Hammersmith and City, Northern, Bakerloo and Victoria - remain suspended.

2.24pm: Metropolitan Police confirm armed officers have been deployed to University College hospital where they are dealing with an incident.

2.40pm: An initial examination at Oval shows that there is no trace of chemical agents.

2.45pm: Downing Street confirms the government's civil contingencies committee, known as Cobra, would be meeting in response to the latest incidents.

3.10pm: London Underground says the Piccadilly and Bakerloo lines have also been suspended, although no incidents have been reported on those lines.

3.20pm: British Transport Police confirm no trace of chemical agents have been found at Warren Street station following the incident there.

3.25pm: London Fire Brigade says officers are deployed at Warren Street tube station in full protective equipment as a precaution in order to examine the scene.

4pm: Armed police and dog handlers arrive at Shepherd's Bush to begin searches of streets that had earlier been sealed off.

Source
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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jul, 2005 02:47 am
Things are very calm here.

One of the bombers was chased off by the public.
Let it be a warning to them.

The police now have four rucksacks full of forensic evidence.
and plenty of eye-witness descriptions of the men.

As a Londoner born, even I am impressed with the return to business.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jul, 2005 04:50 am
There's a seige going at the East London mosque. Seems yesterday's attempted bombers might have fled there.

Meanwhile at Stockwell armed "police" chased a man onto a tube train, he fell over, they jumped on him and shot him five times in the head.

You really must buy a ticket on the underground.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jul, 2005 04:56 am
Maybe he was about to detonate?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jul, 2005 05:02 am
could be. Apparantly he was wearing an in appropriate padded jacket

Aussie wicket down!
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jul, 2005 05:11 am
Cricket - the great metaphor of life - especially being played with all this happening.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jul, 2005 06:21 am
Shot five times. Humm. In NYCity they would be crying police brutality and his family would be suing for $50 million.
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