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Further Discussion About Covid-19 and the Covid-19 Crisis 2020

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 29 May, 2020 08:04 am
@izzythepush,
Its the occupational hazard, made even worse by the so called success ministries of any christian.
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livinglava
 
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Fri 29 May, 2020 08:42 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

That's already done. But the model being used is the DeBeers model: skin 'em for all you can get.

The cheaper prices in the third world is part of the equation, too. Savings from larger scale production (economy of scale), tax write-offs, good press and PR which financially pays off in the US with private insurance and large wealthy class.

They already know how to make tons of it, they also know how to meter it and the most at the highest prices - in the US market, the one with the most disposable income unless you're uninsured and poor.

So the rich are paying for certain poor people to get drugs for free, while driving up the prices for other uninsured people to go poor if they want to pay for it.

If the rich couldn't fund group insurance as employers, they wouldn't be able to pick favorites for who gets to afford care/drugs or not.

Then the drug company would have to either sell the drug at a price people can afford without insurance/subsidies or not sell it.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 29 May, 2020 09:11 am
@livinglava,
You got it backwards. Giving it to the poor actually DECREASES the costs (economy of scale) allowing them to GOUGE the US market. The more dollars there are the more things cost. The prices in the US have nothing to do with supply and little to with demand except at what price will the reduced market affect the total profit (one patient a $1000 or 100 patients at $10 or 1000 patients at $1). Have you ever seen how they make these drugs? With cement mixers, food grade shovels and fifty gallon cardboard barrels.

http://www.leo-pharma.co.uk/Files/Billeder/UK-2018/LEO%20Manufacturing%20Machinery%20Inside%20Factory.jpg

https://cdn-a.william-reed.com/var/wrbm_gb_food_pharma/storage/images/1/1/7/8/348711-3-eng-GB/Dr-Reddy-s-API-plant-receives-USFDA-483-with-nine-observations.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TyWBVdaf4nM/UazkeCkDdBI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/yfWvfKwWap0/s1600/coating.jpg

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hdoaBEmhMKDigb3qnwO1vgHaJ3%26pid%3DApi&f=1

Look, 90% of the cost of drugs has to with exclusivity of manufacture. Look at whar Martin Skireli did :
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/martin-shkreli-who-raised-drug-prices-from-13-50-to-750-arrested-in-securities-fraud-probe/

Medicine
Martin Shkreli, Who Raised Drug Prices from $13.50 to $750, Arrested in Securities Fraud Probe

The entrepreneur has been widely criticized for price gouging.

Hes in jail because he made no friends and didn't keep a low profile but look at what happened just this year with insulin prices:

Insulin prices skyrocket, putting many diabetics in a bind ...
[Search domain www.cbsnews.com/news/insulin-prices-skyrocket-putting-many-diabetics-in-a-bind/] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/insulin-prices-skyrocket-putting-many-diabetics-in-a-bind/
Insulin, a life-saving medication used to treat diabetes, was discovered nearly 100 years ago, yet the price of the drug has now spiked by 700 percent in just two decades.

That wasn't because insulin precursers went up 700% or that diabetes rates sky rocketed. Greed sky rocketed.

This industry needs REGULATION because people will not check their greed. Market pressure don't have a freaking thing to with it.



livinglava
 
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Fri 29 May, 2020 09:24 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

You got it backwards. Giving it to the poor actually DECREASES the costs (economy of scale) allowing them to GOUGE the US market. The more dollars there are the more things cost. The prices in the US have nothing to do with supply and little to with demand except at what price will the reduced market affect the total profit (one patient a $1000 or 100 patients at $10 or 1000 patients at $1).

What insurance does by subsidizing it is to cause the manufacturers to expect one price, while causing patients to expect a lower one.

That means that to get the lower price, you have to be chosen by an employer to be insured, and that way people with employer health insurance will do whatever it takes to avoid losing their jobs.

So if the drug companies can't sell the drugs at high prices to the insurance companies, then they have to either sell them affordably directly to patients OR they simply won't sell them, i.e. because insurance won't be subsidizing the purchase at high prices.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 29 May, 2020 09:47 am
@livinglava,
Word salad. Insurance allows poor people to pay artificially high prices. The artificially high prices are set by the manufacturers: there's no demand market pressures. The mark up on pharmaceuticals are astronomical. This makes insurance companies rich, banks rich, stockholders rich, pharmaceutical companies rich. Getting rid of insurance will RAISE prices for the poor. The rich don't care either way.

Why do you think pharmaceutical manufacturers hold out a piece of hope with their "if you can't afford ..." commercials? Why do you think insurance companies negotiate drug prices with these manufacturers, why do you think when Congress gave their big unfunded Part B drug programs to the elderly to get them to vote for Bushes re-election that it was written into the law that the Federal government COULD NOT go to big Pharm and negotiate drug costs??? To KEEP Prices high no matter what.

For someone harping the big picture, you don't seem to educated about the big picture. Try reading my links.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 29 May, 2020 09:52 am
@livinglava,
How Big Pharma Reaps Profits While Hurting Everyday Americans

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2019/08/30/473911/big-pharma-reaps-profits-hurting-everyday-americans/

Download the PDF here: https://cdn.americanprogress.org/content/uploads/2019/08/29054935/Big-Pharma.pdf

It’s no secret that the Trump administration has fostered a culture of corruption in which special interests and big donors advance their interests at the expense of everyday people. Perhaps no policy area exemplifies this corruption more than the issue of drug pricing.

President Trump has long promised to stand up to the pharmaceutical industry and lower prescription drug prices, but he has avoided taking serious action to drive down prices while at the same time filling top spots in his administration with industry insiders. This administration’s culture of corruption, which continues a decadeslong practice of political pandering to the pharmaceutical industry, carries a real cost; Americans spent $535 billion1 on prescription drugs in 2018, an increase of 50 percent since 2010. These price increases far surpass inflation, with Big Pharma increasing prices on its most-prescribed medications by anywhere from 40 percent to 71 percent from 2011 to 2015.2

Moreover, pharmaceutical companies receive substantial U.S. government assistance in the form of publicly funded basic research and tax breaks, yet they continue to charge exorbitant prices for medications. But the issue goes beyond cost. In America, more than 1 million individuals suffer from Type 1 diabetes3, a condition where the body cannot make insulin, which is essential for getting glucose (also known as blood sugar) into cells from the bloodstream. Without insulin, glucose accumulates in the bloodstream4, causing dangerously high blood sugar levels. Among all Americans suffering from diabetes, at least 1 in 45 have said that they engaged in insulin rationing—a tactic of using less insulin than is needed in order to make the doses last longer—as a direct result of the skyrocketing price of the drug. A vial of insulin, which is the only life-sustaining option for Type 1 diabetics, retails at around $300.6 A 2018 study commissioned by the Congressional Diabetes Caucus found that the price of insulin has doubled since 20127; in the 10 years prior, the price of insulin nearly tripled. Despite the dangers of insulin rationing, which can lead to diabetic ketoacidosis, a fatal condition, many Americans have no other choice. That was the case for Antroinette8, whose daughter was rationing insulin due to the high cost and died at the age of 22 as a result.
Insulin facts

Access to insulin for patients with Type 1 diabetes is a matter of life or death.9
While insulin has existed since the1920s10, the price since then has skyrocketed, especially in recent years. Prices for insulin increased by 197 percent between 2002 and 2013, from $4.34 per milliliter to $12.92 per milliliter.11
There are three insulin manufacturers serving the United States: Eli Lilly and Co., Novo Nordisk A/S, and Sanofi SA.
Eli Lillyannounced12 in March 2019 that it would begin selling a generic version of its Humalog insulin at half the price. The medication, known as lispro, will cost $137.35 per vial. To compare pricing, a 2018 study13 estimated that the cost of making a year’s worth of insulin for one patient ranges from $78 to $133.
Ahead of its hearing on drug pricing in February 2019, the U.S. Senate Committee on Finance sent aletter14 to Eli Lilly asking why insulin is priced so astonishingly high. A vial of NovoLog, one type of insulin, costs15 anywhere from $14 to $300 in the United States but only $48 in Singapore, $14 in India, $6 in Austria, and $0 in Italy.

American taxpayers fund basic research

Billions of taxpayer dollars go into the creation and marketing16 of new drugs. The Los Angeles Times reports that, “Since the 1930s, the National Institutes of Health has invested close to $90017 billion in the basic and applied research that formed both the pharmaceutical and biotechnology sectors.” Despite taxpayers’ crucial investment, U.S. consumers are increasingly paying more for their prescription drugs.

A 2018 study18 on the National Institute of Health’s (NIH) financial contributions to new drug approvals found that the agency “contributed to published research associated with every one of the 210 new drugs approved by the Food and Drug Administration from 2010–2016.” More than $100 billion in NIH funding went toward research that contributed directly or indirectly to the 210 drugs approved during that six-year period. The NIH Research Project Grant (R01)19—which supports health-related research—was by far the most common kind of grant used to fund the science that supported the new drugs. In all, NIH gave out nearly 118,00020 R01 grants related to those drugs from 2010 to 2016.
Federal perks for Big Pharma add up

Pharmaceutical companies also benefit from research and development tax credits. The federal R&D tax credit was first introduced in 1981 to encourage private sector investment in pioneering research.21 This tax credit is available to businesses that attempt to develop new, improved, or technologically advanced products or trade processes.22 In 2015, former President Barack Obama signed into law the Protecting Americans from Tax Hikes Act23, which made these tax credits permanent and extended them to small businesses and startup companies.

Pharmaceutical industries also receive a tax deduction for their marketing and advertising expenses. According to a report in the Journal of the American Medical Association, “From 1997 through 2016, medical marketing expanded substantially, and spending increased from $17.7 to $29.9 billion,24 with direct-to-consumer advertising for prescription drugs and health services accounting for the most rapid growth, and pharmaceutical marketing to health professionals accounting for most promotional spending.” The report also found that from 1997 through 2016, “the number of advertisements … increased from 79,000 (including 72,000 television commercials) in 1997 to 4.6 million (663,000 television25 commercials) in 2016.”
Big Pharma’s drug pricing maximizes profits

Despite these taxpayer subsidies, prescription drug prices are nonetheless increasing at an alarming rate. In 2019, price increases from drug manufacturers affected more than 3,40026 drugs. For example, Allergan, a major pharmaceutical manufacturer, raised prices on 51 drugs, just more than half its portfolio. Some medications that Allergan manufactures saw a 9.5 percent jump in cost, while others saw a 4.9 percent increase in cost.27 Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd., the largest generic drug manufacturer in the world, increased its drug prices by more than 9 percent.28 These sharp increases in price occur as companies continue to report millions of dollars in revenue. In 2018, Allergan reported $15.8 million29 in revenue, while Teva Pharmaceuticals reported $18.8 million30 in revenue.

Pharmaceutical companies’ profit margins receive significant bumps when they launch new drugs, specifically specialty drugs, used to treat life-threatening conditions. These drugs often cost more than most Americans can afford. Pharmaceutical companies have stated that the prices are high because the drugs are difficult to manufacture. In 2013, for example, industry giant Gilead Sciences launched Sovaldi, a hepatitis C drug, at $1,000 per pill31, or $84,00032 per treatment, which could last 12 to 24 weeks.33 After an 18-month investigation into the company’s pricing, the Senate Finance Committee concluded that Gilead had pursued a marketing and pricing strategy designed to “maximize revenue with little concern for access or affordability.”34

Drug companies also benefit from patents, which give them monopoly power for their on-patent products. These patents ensure that prices remain high by reducing competition. Drug patents last for 20 years after the filing date. Pharmaceutical companies have also employed tactics such as evergreening and thicketing to prolong a drug’s exclusivity. When evergreening, pharmaceutical companies make certain modifications to a drug such as changing its35 chemical composition slightly or making an external change as minor as adding a stripe to a pill36 in order to preserve their patents. A 2018 study in the Journal of Law and the Biosciences found that 78 percent37 of new drug patents awarded in the past decade went to drugs that already existed. Seventy percent 38 of the nearly 100 bestselling drugs extended their exclusivity protections at least once, and 50 percent extended their patents more than once. The second tactic—thicketing—involves flooding the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and the courts with excessive patents and applications to make it difficult for competing firms to secure patents. These tactics help preserve pharmaceutical companies’ monopolies and ensure that drug prices remain uncompetitive and thus less affordable for everyday Americans.

While consumers continue to pay the price of this market manipulation, a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report on the pharmaceutical industry found that these unfair practices are significantly enriching manufacturers. As the report stated, “Among the largest 25 companies, annual average profit margin fluctuated between 15 and 20 percent.”39 The GAO contextualizes these profits by comparing the pharmaceutical industry’s profits with those of its counterparts, stating that “the annual average profit margin across non-drug companies among the largest 500 globally fluctuated between 4 and 9 percent.”

In 2018 alone, the CEOs of major pharmaceutical companies Allergan, Johnson & Johnson, and Pfizer Inc. made a total of $90 million.40 Meanwhile, according to a CBS News report, Americans spent $535 billion41 on prescription drugs in 2018—an increase of 50 percent since 2010.42 As pharmaceutical industry profits increase43, everyday Americans—whose tax dollars play a critical role in funding the research and development of these medications—are not receiving anything close to a fair return on their investment.

A recent Pew Charitable Trusts study found that Americans spent $65.8 billion44 out of pocket in 2016 for retail prescription drugs, up from $59.5 billion in 2012. The high cost of prescription drugs is a significant driver of medical debt45 because Americans are increasingly reliant on medication to manage long-term chronic conditions.46 Additionally, the high cost of prescription drugs has forced many Americans to take drastic measures, including foregoing taking their medications as prescribed or traveling abroad in order to save on medications. A 2019 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study found that 11.4 percent47 of adults aged 18 to 64 did not take their prescription drugs as prescribed in order to reduce how much they spent on their medications. And, as NPR recently reported, “The U.S government estimates that close to 1 million48 Americans in California alone go to Mexico annually for health care, including to buy prescription drugs.” In May 2019, a group of Americans49 living with Type 1 diabetes traveled to Canada to purchase insulin and call on the U.S. government to regulate the cost of lifesaving drugs. The costs associated with traveling abroad make it logistically and financially impractical for most Americans. Further, traveling abroad presents certain health risks given that some countries have lax drug certification standards compared with FDA standards.
President Trump’s broken promises on drug pricing

In an interview with Time magazine ahead of being chosen as its Person of the Year in 2016, Trump said, “I’m going to bring down drug prices. I don’t like what’s happened with drug prices.”50 He promised to bring Americans’ drug spending down to $0 by negotiating drug prices.51 Trump made grandiose promises on drug pricing but almost three years later has only managed to deliver a handful of half-measures, illustrating his administration’s lack of commitment to lowering drug prices. One of Trump’s proposals from his so-called presidential blueprint52 included eliminating some rebates paid by drug companies53 that hide the true cost of drugs. However, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that the measure would actually increase federal spending on Medicare and Medicaid by $177 billion.54 The Trump administration also announced a regulation that would require TV ads for drugs to include the list price.55 Some experts believe this policy will be ineffective56 at making pharmaceutical companies lower list prices or end price hikes for drugs and will only confuse or mislead consumers rather than help them.57 These half-measures, combined with Trump surrounding himself with high-level Big Pharma officials, clearly communicates that the administration is not on track to lower drug costs for Americans.

Congress has done little to address the problem of high drug prices. Instead, many members continue to enjoy cozy relationships with the pharmaceutical industry. The industry spent more than $62 million in the 2016 congressional elections—the most it has ever spent on political campaigns.58 The massive influx of campaign cash benefited members of both parties, including those that sit on committees with jurisdiction over drug pricing.59 Big Pharma’s investment has paid off as recently as July 2019, when the Senate Finance Committee failed to pass an amendment on the Prescription Drug Pricing Reduction Act of 2019, which would have allowed Medicare to negotiate drug prices with manufacturers.60 Medicare’s ability to negotiate on drug prices, which is currently prohibited by law, “would provide the leverage needed to lower drug costs.”61

Despite his promise to be tough on Big Pharma, President Trump has proven to be a friend to the industry. Big Pharma officials have filled at least 1662 current or former positions in the Trump administration, and many of Trump’s top health advisers have been industry insiders or close to the pharmaceutical companies. Trump’s first secretary of health and human services, former Rep. Tom Price (R-GA), was a longtime friend of the industry63 in Congress, where he not only pushed Big Pharma’s agenda but also benefited from it financially.64 Price, who drew scrutiny for more than $300,000 in health care stock trades, was eventually forced to resign in 201765 as a result of his illicit use of private jets on the taxpayers’ dime.

In 2017, Trump nominated Joe Grogan66 to a top position at the U.S. Office of Management and Budget. Grogan spent five years as a lobbyist for Gilead—the pharmaceutical company that is infamous for its sky-high prices on a cure for hepatitis C.67 Since joining the administration, Grogan has led drug-pricing proposals and participated in Trump’s Drug Pricing and Innovation Working Group.”68 However, the working group has proposed pharma-friendly measures such as implementing monopoly rights outside of the United States, speeding up approval from the FDA for new drugs, and eliminating price cuts for hospitals in impoverished areas.

President Trump chose to replace Price with Alex Azar, the former president of Eli Lilly—one of the companies that is working to keep drug prices high while everyday Americans suffer—to oversee his efforts to address drug pricing as secretary of health and human services.

In 2018, pharmaceutical companies spent more than $283 million in lobbying dollars69, with Eli Lilly spending just less than $6.8 million in 2018.70 While Azar, Trump’s chief health adviser, was president of Eli Lilly, the company drastically increased insulin prices. Eli Lilly is currently defending itself against a class-action lawsuit71 accusing the company of colluding with pharmacy benefit managers—individuals who negotiate drug pricing and availability with drug companies for the government and other insurance plans—to increase prices. Big Pharma and pharmacy benefit managers have been playing a blame game72 while lawmakers—who have held several hearings in the U.S. House of Representatives73 and the U.S. Senate74—try to find the source of America’s drug pricing problem.

Given the sway that Big Pharma has with the administration, the industry has no plans to reduce prescription drug prices or reverse past price gouging. For his part, President Trump tried but failed to pass the American Health Care Act of 2017, which would have hurt millions of Americans while benefiting the pharmaceutical industry, among others. However, he was successful in signing into law a new tax bill that lowered the corporate tax rate by 14 percent, allowing pharmaceutical companies, including those with ties to the Trump administration, to save a total of $76 billion.75 After the tax law was enacted, Eli Lilly received a tax cut of nearly $4.5 billion on offshore profits.76 Instead of using these tax savings to lower drug prices, big pharmaceutical companies such as Eli Lilly together used $45 billion of their total tax savings77 to benefit shareholders via stock buyback programs. After President Trump helped Eli Lilly save billions, Azar, the company’s top executive, was confirmed to head the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services78 at the beginning of the following year.
Conclusion

Although the Trump administration keeps promising to lower drug prices, drug costs continue to climb as Americans suffer and pharmaceutical companies profit and their CEOs line their pockets. The government-funded research and major tax benefits that these pharmaceutical companies enjoy help them stay profitable. Meanwhile, they continue to hike up the costs of drugs, particularly life-sustaining drugs such as insulin.

Big Pharma can play this game indefinitely, benefiting from this culture of corruption, using allies in the administration and in Congress to grow their profit margins while everyday people suffer. But there are steps lawmakers can take to reduce the influence of special interests, including Big Pharma.79 For example, lobbyists are currently allowed to fundraise for candidates for federal office—and many of them provide far more financial support beyond the $2,800 per candidate limit by hosting fundraising events and bundling contributions. Banning lobbyists from fundraising80 for candidates would reduce special-interest influence over the legislative process. Another way to limit corrupting conflicts of interest is to ban members of Congress from accepting campaign donations from entities under the jurisdiction of the committees on which the serve. It is understood that conflicts can easily arise from committee contributions, which explains why 88 percent of voters support this prohibition.81 Additionally, Washington’s infamous revolving door between private industry and government must be closed. Proposals to do so include a lifetime lobbying ban on members of Congress and a five-year lobbying ban on senior congressional staffers.82

As Americans are caught trying to decide whether to pay for rent or medicine, pharmaceutical companies continue to reap government benefits. Reducing drug prices and the costs that everyday people must pay is not possible without fixing the broken system in Washington.

Abbey Meller is an organizing associate for Democracy and Government at the Center for American Progress. Hauwa Ahmed is a research assistant for Democracy and Government at the Center.
Endnotes

Aimee Picchi, “Big Pharma ushers in new year by raising prices of more than 1,000 drugs,” CBS News, January 2, 2019, available at https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drug-prices-oxycontin-predaxa-purdue-pharmaceuticals-boehringer-ingelheim/.
William Rice, Frank Clemente, and Kayla Kitson, “Bad Medicine: How GOP Tax Cuts Are Enriching Drug Companies, Leaving Workers & Patients Behind” (Washington: American for Tax Fairness, 2018), available at https://americansfortaxfairness.org/wp-content/uploads/Pharma-Tax-Cut-Report-4.26.18-FINAL-.pdf.
American Diabetes Association, “Statistics about Diabettes,” available at https://www.diabetes.org/resources/statistics/statistics-about-diabetes (last accessed August 2019). ↩
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “Type 1 Diabetes,” available at https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/basics/type1.html (last accessed August 2019). ↩
Ed Silverman, “One-quarter of people with diabetes in the U.S. are rationing their insulin,” Stat, June 18, 2019, available at https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2019/06/18/one-quarter-of-people-with-diabetes-in-the-u-s-are-rationing-their-insulin/.
Ritu Prasad, “The human cost of insulin in America,” BBC News, March 14, 2019, available at https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47491964.
Office of Congresswoman Diana DeGette, “Skyrocketing Insulin Cost: Congressional Diabetes Caucus Highlights Need and Ways to Bring Prices Down,” Press release, November 1, 2018, available at https://degette.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/skyrocketing-insulin-cost-congressional-diabetes-caucus-highlights-need.
Antroinette Worsham, “Testimony Before the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Reform Hearing on ‘Examining the Actions of Drug Companies in Raising Prescription Drug Prices,’” January 29, 2019, available at https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20190129/108817/HHRG-116-GO00-Wstate-WorshamA-20190129.pdf.
Robin Cressman and others, “’We Either Buy Insulin or We Die,’” The New York Times, June 13, 2019, available at https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/opinion/insulin-price-costs.html.
Forester McClatchey, “A Brief History of Insulin,” Beyond Type 1, October 31, 2016, available at https://beyondtype1.org/brief-history-insulin/.
Xinyang Hua, Natalie Carvalho, and Michelle Tew, “Expenditures and Prices of Antihyperglycemic Medications in the United States: 2002-2013,” Journal of the American Medical Association 315 (13) (2016): 1400­–1402, available at https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2510902.
Michael Nedelman, “Amid uproar over high drug prices, Eli Lilly introduces generic insulin at half price of brand-name Humalog,” CNN, March 4, 2019, available at https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/04/health/insulin-price-humalog-generic-eli-lilly-bn/index.html.
Dzintars Gotham, Melissa J. Barber, and Andrew Hill, “Production costs and potential prices for biosimilars of human insulin and insulin analogues,” BMJ Global Health 3 (5) (2018), available at https://gh.bmj.com/content/3/5/e000850.
Chairman Charles E. Grassley and Ranking Member Ron Wyden, “Letter from United States Senate Committee on Finance to Mr. David Ricks, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Eli Lilly,” February 22, 2019, available at https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2019-02-22%20CEG%20RW%20to%20Eli%20Lilly%20(Insulin%20Prices).pdf. ↩
T1International, “Access to Insulin and Supplies Survey,” available at https://www.t1international.com/insulin-and-supply-survey/ (last accessed August 2019). ↩
Thomas Huelskoetter and Andrew Satter,“How Your Tax Payer Dollars Are Subsidizing Drug Companies,” Center for American Progress, July 12, 2018, available at https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2018/07/12/453523/tax-dollars-subsidizing-drug-companies/.
Mariana Mazzucato, “Op-Ed: How taxpayers prop up Big Pharma, and how to cap that,” The Los Angeles Times, October 27, 2015, available at https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1027-mazzucato-big-pharma-prices-20151027-story.html.
Ekaterina Galkina Cleary and others, “Contributions of NIH funding to new drug approvals 2010-2016,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America 115 (10) (2018): 2329–2334, available at https://www.pnas.org/content/115/10/2329.short.
National Institutes of Health, “NIH Research Project Grant Program (R01),” available at https://grants.nih.gov/grants/funding/r01.htm (last accessed February 2019). ↩
Cleary and others, “Contributions of NIH funding to new drug approvals 2010-2016.” ↩
Yair Holtzman, “U.S Research and Development Tax Credit,” The CPA Journal, October 1, 2017, available at https://www.cpajournal.com/2017/10/30/u-s-research-development-tax-credit/.
Ibid. ↩
Internal Revenue Service, “PATH Act Tax Related Provisions,” available at https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/path-act-tax-related-provisions (last accessed June 2019). ↩
Lisa M. Schwartz and Steven Woloshin , “Medical Marketing in the United States, 1997-2016,” Journal of the American Medical Association 321 (1) (2019): 80–96, available at https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2720029.
Ibid. ↩
Aimee Picchi, “Drug prices in 2019 are surging, with hikes at 5 times inflation,” CBS News, July 1, 2019, available at https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drug-prices-in-2019-are-surging-with-hikes-at-5-times-inflation/.
Tami Luhby, “Drug makers resist pressure from Washington on drug prices,” CNN, January, 3, 2019, available at https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/03/politics/drug-prices-trump/index.html.
Ibid. ↩
Allergan, “Allergan Reports Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 2018 Financial Results,” January 29, 2019, available at https://www.allergan.com/investors/news/thomson-reuters/allergan-reports-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-2018.
Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd, “Teva Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Financial Results,” Press release, February 13, 2019, available at https://ir.tevapharm.com/investors/press-releases/press-release-details/2019/Teva-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Year-2018-Financial-Results/default.aspx.
Richard Knox, “$1,000 Pill for Hepatitis C Spurs Debate Over Drug Prices,” NPR, December 30, 2013, available at https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/12/30/256885858/-1-000-pill-for-hepatitis-c-spurs-debate-over-drug-prices.
Madeline Twomey, “Comprehensive Reform to Lower Prescription Drug Prices,” Center for American Progress, January 29, 2019, available at https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2019/01/29/465621/comprehensive-reform-lower-prescription-drug-prices/.
Infohep, “Hepatitis C treatment factsheet: Sofosbuvir (Sovaldi),” available at http://www.infohep.org/Hepatitis-C-treatment-factsheet-Sofosbuvir-iSovaldii/page/2845322/ (last accessed January 2017). ↩
U.S. Senate Committee on Finance, “Wyden-Grassley Sovaldi Investigation Finds Revenue-Driven Pricing Strategy Behind $84,000 Hepatitis Drug,” Press release, December 1, 2015, available at https://www.finance.senate.gov/ranking-members-news/wyden-grassley-sovaldi-investigation-finds-revenue-driven-pricing-strategy-behind-84-000-hepatitis-drug.
The Editorial Board, “How Big Pharma plays games with drug patents and how to combat it,” USA Today, July 18, 2019, available at https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/07/18/big-pharma-plays-games-drug-patents-you-pay-editorials-debates/1769746001/.
Ibid. ↩
Robin Feldman, “May your drug price be evergreen,” Journal of Law and the Biosciences 5 (3) (2018): 590–647, available at https://academic.oup.com/jlb/article/5/3/590/5232981.
Ibid. ↩
United States Government Accountability Office, “Drug Industry: Profits, Research and Development Spending and Merger and Acquisition Deals” (Washington: 2017), available at https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/688472.pdf.
The Wall Street Journal, “Highest-Paid Pharmaceutical CEOs,” available at https://graphics.wsj.com/table/CEOPAY_slice_Pharma_0606 (last accessed January 2019). ↩
Picchi, “Drug prices in 2019 are surging, with hikes at 5 times inflation.” ↩
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Ibid. ↩
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Fri 29 May, 2020 09:59 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Antibiotics are not helped by big Pharma because there’s no money in it. Any new product will have to be put to one side and rarely if ever used.

Diseases that affect rich people pay which is why malaria is still such an issue in the 3rd World.
livinglava
 
  -2  
Fri 29 May, 2020 10:10 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Word salad. Insurance allows poor people to pay artificially high prices. The artificially high prices are set by the manufacturers: there's no demand market pressures.

The demand market pressure is simply that people buy the drugs using insurance, which allows the pharmacies to sell the drugs for what the insurance pays for them PLUS copayment.

If there was no insurance paying for the drugs, they would have to sell them for the price of the copayment or they wouldn't sell.

Quote:
The mark up on pharmaceuticals are astronomical. This makes insurance companies rich, banks rich, stockholders rich, pharmaceutical companies rich. Getting rid of insurance will RAISE prices for the poor. The rich don't care either way.

Obviously there is an economic incentive to keeping certain people insured and others not. If everyone was going to get care/drugs, they wouldn't need to subsidize and charge so much. The only point of insurance is to exclude, so all-inclusive insurance is oxymoronic.

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Why do you think pharmaceutical manufacturers hold out a piece of hope with their "if you can't afford ..." commercials? Why do you think insurance companies negotiate drug prices with these manufacturers, why do you think when Congress gave their big unfunded Part B drug programs to the elderly to get them to vote for Bushes re-election that it was written into the law that the Federal government COULD NOT go to big Pharm and negotiate drug costs??? To KEEP Prices high no matter what.

How would they keep them high if insurance wasn't in the picture?
livinglava
 
  -2  
Fri 29 May, 2020 10:14 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Diseases that affect rich people pay which is why malaria is still such an issue in the 3rd World.

Until now that Trump has promoted Hydrochloroquine, it will probably have a lot more to spend on production and distribution, assuming insurance doesn't raise the cost for the uninsured.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 29 May, 2020 10:38 am
@izzythepush,
Exactly right. Getting rid of insurance will not lower the prices, it'll make these drugs disappear.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 29 May, 2020 10:44 am
@livinglava,
Increasing demand will not reduce prices. Where did you pick up your economics? Reducing demand will. Taking insurance away from the poor will reduce demand. So you want the uninsured to die to lower YOUR prices???

Insurance has nothing to with how big Pharma prices their products except where they negotiate prices lower. Just the opposite of what you claim.

I'm done with this. You're illogical and obviously self educated and badly at that.
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livinglava
 
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Fri 29 May, 2020 10:45 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Exactly right. Getting rid of insurance will not lower the prices, it'll make these drugs disappear.

Obviously the drug companies are going to do everything they can to bring everyone into submission.

Once the drugs disappear, others will step up to fill the gap.

Maybe laws will be changed to revoke patents after a certain amount of inactivity.

Basically what you're suggesting is that the fear of the drugs disappearing with bring people into submission to get the Democrats in office to revive ACA and get the government spending to subsidize insurance companies again.

If ACA is brought back, it's going to be that much harder to achieve low prices for the uninsured, because you'd be setting a precedent that the public will cave in if you just withhold drugs from them until they vote for the government to pay.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Fri 29 May, 2020 10:48 am
@livinglava,
Quote:
How would they keep them high if insurance wasn't in the picture?


BECAUSE THEY CAN! What's to stop them???? They sell proprietary products for Pete's sakes. They have LEGAL MONOPOLIES!!! They are not under market pressures until people STOP buying their pills. What do you not get about this?

I'm done with you. I don't know if you play dumb to get attention or if its really is you are are this ignorant. Either way, I am done.
livinglava
 
  -1  
Fri 29 May, 2020 11:05 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Quote:
How would they keep them high if insurance wasn't in the picture?

BECAUSE THEY CAN! What's to stop them???? They sell proprietary products for Pete's sakes. They have LEGAL MONOPOLIES!!! They are not under market pressures until people STOP buying their pills. What do you not get about this?

There just wouldn't be many people buying their products at high prices without insurance subsidizing them. They would sell to a few people rich enough to afford the high prices, but no one else would be buying.

Quote:
I'm done with you. I don't know if you play dumb to get attention or if its really is you are are this ignorant. Either way, I am done.

I'm not playing dumb. I'm explaining how the drug companies are able to charge prices that are unaffordable to the uninsured because insurance pays for so many people at the high rates.
bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Fri 29 May, 2020 11:17 am
@livinglava,
OK. Last time.

Quote:
charge prices that are unaffordable to the uninsured because insurance pays for so many people at the high rates.


You haven't explained anything. You alledge Insurance companies raise prices. They don't. They negotiate LOWER prices. Why would big pharma lower prices after getting rid of insurance companies? Getting rid of insurance companies will not reduce or expand the market. This gives Big Pharma more incentive to RAISE prices because the insurance companies aren't there to negotiate LOWER prices. If you can't grasp that, we're wasting time because I will never buy your horeshit about Big Pharma just looking for a reason to cut prices when there's absolutely no incentive for them to do so.

And that's it. You're on ignore.

“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” Martin Luther King Jr.
panther2020
 
  -4  
Fri 29 May, 2020 11:18 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Insulin prices skyrocket, putting many diabetics in a bind ...
[Search domain www.cbsnews.com/news/insulin-prices-skyrocket-putting-many-diabetics-in-a-bind/]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/insulin-prices-skyrocket-putting-many-diabetics-in-a-bind/
Insulin, a life-saving medication used to treat diabetes, was discovered nearly 100 years ago, yet the price of the drug has now spiked by 700 percent in just two decades.

That wasn't because insulin precursers went up 700% or that diabetes rates sky rocketed. Greed sky rocketed.

This industry needs REGULATION because people will not check their greed. Market pressure don't have a freaking thing to with it.


That's correct. What you describe is one of four or five kinds of huge abuses that magnify the cost of health care in America; you'd only have to eliminate those abuses and health care would be so easily affordable that you'd only need insurance against catastrophic illnesses.

President Trump has tried to do something like that in this present case by publicizing the fact that there is a very inexpensive WW2 vintage medicine (hcq) that doctors in some regions have been combining with zinc and an antibiotic to achieve near 100% cures of covid-19 with and a combination of bigpharma and democrat governors have more or less declared war on hcq with deepstaters in the FDA pressuring pharmacies not to fill prescriptions for it.






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panther2020
 
  -4  
Fri 29 May, 2020 11:24 am
Another possibility...

https://khn.org/news/americans-cross-border-into-mexico-to-buy-insulin-at-a-fraction-of-u-s-cost/
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livinglava
 
  -1  
Fri 29 May, 2020 11:41 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
You alledge Insurance companies raise prices. They don't. They negotiate LOWER prices.

If you make your prices higher than you actually charge, you can call it a discount. The point isn't what they say about their prices but rather how much money they get. They get more by selling to insurance companies instead of to the public directly.

Quote:
Why would big pharma lower prices after getting rid of insurance companies?

Because they wouldn't sell drugs at unaffordable prices if insurance wasn't paying the difference.

Quote:
Getting rid of insurance companies will not reduce or expand the market. This gives Big Pharma more incentive to RAISE prices because the insurance companies aren't there to negotiate LOWER prices.

The challenge would be to ensure uniform pricing. Obviously if they can they're going to negotiate different prices with everyone depending on what they can get out of you. They'll do credit checks and negotiate with you for one price; and then turn around and negotiate a different price with someone else.

If you can get them to set a single price and there's no insurance involved, then the price they set is going to be something that is going to maximize their sales, unless they just want to sell to a very small elite customer base who can afford exorbitant prices.

Quote:
If you can't grasp that, we're wasting time because I will never buy your horeshit about Big Pharma just looking for a reason to cut prices when there's absolutely no incentive for them to do so.

Of course they're not looking for a reason to cut prices. They are looking for the public to vote in Biden to bring back ACA insurance mandates and subsidies so they can get as much money as possible by raising prices as high as possible and mandating as many sales as possible.

Quote:

“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” Martin Luther King Jr.

Does that apply to ignorance of how insurance drives up drug prices?
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panther2020
 
  -4  
Fri 29 May, 2020 12:26 pm
From the frontlines of the war on HCQ, the Karen Whitsett story:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/26/democrat-state-rep-sues-gretchen-whitmer-over-censure-after-thanking-president-trump/
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Fri 29 May, 2020 01:04 pm
@panther2020,
You had me till that.

Breitbart. Seriously?
 

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