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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Tediously, I point out your statement of opinions as though they were facts routinely.

You cannot provide any examples of a post where you have ever pointed out such a thing.

Neither can you provide any examples of me posting an opinion as a fact even now.

Setanta wrote:

China is not a military threat to the United States.

That is incorrect. China is rapidly building up their military forces, and their ability to confront the US grows every day.

Setanta wrote:

Neither China nor Russia can threaten us in any realm other than thermonuclear exchange, when mutual assured destruction sets in.

As I just noted, China is rapidly building up their military forces, and their ability to confront the US grows every day.

Setanta wrote:

In any event, bloated military expenditures like the F35 boondoggle do not protect us from that.

What we really need are F-22s. Obama did a lot of damage to our nation when he shut down production of F-22s.

Setanta wrote:

North Korea is no threat to us,

They are a pretty serious threat to some of our allies. A lot of Americans will die to protect those allies if the Korean War restarts.

Setanta wrote:

and Kim made of fool of the fat boy in the White House, and looks eager to do so again.

Talking to them and seeing if peace can be reached is hardly foolish.

Setanta wrote:

Iran is not threat to us,

Tell that to all the Americans that Iran has killed over the years.

Setanta wrote:

Kovind in India is no friend of freedom and democracy and the BJP is rapidly crushing all opposition parties.

I disagree. India is a democratic state. They merely protect themselves from the menace of Islam.

Setanta wrote:

I have pointed out that you are lying when you call GB a traitor.

You are again wrong. I was not lying. I find her comments quite treasonous.

Setanta wrote:

I have pointed out in the past that you are wrong about the cause of the first crusade--

I am not wrong. The Crusades were a response to the invasion of the Byzantine Empire and to the ravishing of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.

Setanta wrote:

you originally claimed it was to prevent an invasion of Europe,

No I didn't. I originally said that the Crusades (Fourth Crusade excepted) were legitimate wars of justified self defense against Islamic aggression, and there was nothing exploitative about them.

That said, it is pretty obvious that Europe was going to be next as soon as the Byzantine Empire fell.

Setanta wrote:

which is a lie.

Had I said it, it would have been an error, not a lie.

As previously noted, it isn't what I said, although it is pretty obvious that Europe was going to be next as soon as the Byzantine Empire fell.

I recently gave you a list of links to my original Crusades posts when you said that you were having trouble finding them. You really have no excuse for misstating my original posts.

https://able2know.org/topic/355218-4112#post-6970372

Setanta wrote:

I pointed out that you were lying when you claimed the USAAF did not firebomb Dresden, and provided links to the USAF historical division to show that you were lying.

I never said that they didn't firebomb Dresden. I'd have to be clear on what you mean by "firebomb" before I could agree or disagree on that claim.

Since I never said it, there is no way for it to be a lie.

What I did say is that US bombers had nothing to do with the firestorm at Dresden (or any other firestorm in Germany).

I was correct to say that. It is the truth.

Setanta wrote:

You then lied about your original statement, claiming that the USAAF was not responsible for the firestorm.

No lie there. That is indeed what my original statement says.

Should I provide you with a list of links to my original posts regarding Dresden as well?

Setanta wrote:

So I again linked the USAF web site, and highlighted the statement there that the American firebombing restarted the fire storm, causing considerable additional damage.

You are wrong. American bombers did not restart any firestorm. That would not have even been possible. Firestorms burn continuously until they consume all available fuel where they are burning.

Setanta wrote:

You are ignorant,

Your inability to provide any examples of untrue statements in my posts shows otherwise.

Setanta wrote:

you are dishonest,

You cannot provide any examples of untrue statements in my posts.

Setanta wrote:

you are delusional,

Your inability to provide any examples of untrue statements in my posts shows that your accusations of delusion are untrue.

Setanta wrote:

and you are a waste of everyone's time at this web site.

It sure does frustrate you when I post facts.

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@oralloy,

I would really love for you to provide links to my comments you believe to be traitorous. Put up or shut up, and not your warped translation of what you 'wish' I had said...something that was truly treasonous. Maybe you're the one confused about the difference between opinion and facts. I've told you before that I find you to be a simple minded soul, easily led and confused. I don't think that means you are a bad person, it simply means I think you are somewhat of a dim-wit. It's still ok to be a dim-wit, I wouldn't consult with you to solve complicated problems or discuss issues that require thoughtful deliberation....but if I ever care to choose 3D anime/animated sci-fi entertainment, you'd be the 4th person I'd reach out to.

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@glitterbag,

Quote:

I don't think that means you are a bad person,

What makes you think Oralloy cares what you think about him? Why would he be any different than anyone else you do not like and choose to attack in the same tired way? You have made yourself irrelevant because of posts like that. Of course you do not think you are, but you are.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

I would really love for you to provide links to my comments you believe to be traitorous. Put up or shut up, and not your warped translation of what you 'wish' I had said...something that was truly treasonous.

You flew off the handle and started attacking me when I suggested that it would be good for the US to be able to protect itself from the bad guys.

That's pretty clear opposition on your part to keeping the US safe.

https://able2know.org/topic/546612-10#post-6982551

glitterbag wrote:

Maybe you're the one confused about the difference between opinion and facts.

I am immune to confusion.

glitterbag wrote:

I've told you before that I find you to be a simple minded soul, easily led and confused. I don't think that means you are a bad person, it simply means I think you are somewhat of a dim-wit. It's still ok to be a dim-wit, I wouldn't consult with you to solve complicated problems or discuss issues that require thoughtful deliberation....but if I ever care to choose 3D anime/animated sci-fi entertainment, you'd be the 4th person I'd reach out to.

My IQ is 170. I'm a billion times smarter than you are.

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@coldjoint,

You have made yourself irrelevant because of posts like that. Of course you do not think you are, but you are.

Soooo huh, what makes you think I give a crap about your views of me??? I realize you think you offer scathing retorts, but I doubt anybody else thinks you are anything other than a smug dim-witted know it all.

"Irrelvance, thy name is Coldjoint".........but once again, I am not looking for your approval or acceptance....perhaps Im just not as insecure as you are regarding others opinions.

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@glitterbag,

Quote:

You have made yourself irrelevant because of posts like that. Of course you do not think you are, but you are.

Fail. You are going to embarrass yourself again.

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@oralloy,

If you were a billion times smarter you would not have used such a ridiculous example. I didn't fly off the handle, I pushed back.....you refuse to say if you ever served...I don't know anyone who is embarrassed about DOD service except those who were dishonorably discharged. Just admit you have never served the country, like so many others have. You are an armchair warrior who knows zippity doo dah about the reality of the service. You even think the Russians beat the US Military in there Korean War......don't pretend you didn't offer that as a fact "you quoted wikipedia" and ignored the sites I recommended for more indepth historical facts/history.

By the way, I asked you to provide links to treasonous comments, you didn't provide any such thing....you simply pointed to the comment where I chided you for positing your 'expertise' despite that you have never served. My remark was not treasonous, you just got pissed because I pointed out that despite your so-called 170 IQ, you don't have the expertise that I do.....

Note to everyone else "my IQ is 200, but of course its in the varsity category....I suspect the other guys 170 is likely junior varsity. But hey, he can always ask to be tested again.

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@coldjoint,

So you said, but I still don't care what you think.

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@glitterbag,

Quote:

So you said, but I still don't care what you think.

Oh yeah, it looks that way. Laughing

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@coldjoint,

Ha!!! Another brilliant retort from the forum's bitter old guy.

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@oralloy,

Baddies like Trump still cock a snook at people wearing face masks and some experts claiming it's a serious crisis facing America, whilst proscribing liberals on Fox News, telling his excitable fans that it's just a "HOAX." Baddies like Trump's stooges slated Brett Crozier,, the commanding officer of the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt , after the courageous Brett Crozier expressed concern about the safety of his crew. More than 100 sailors on the ship had tested positive for the virus. Baddies like Tucker Carlson perorate on Fox News with panache with other Janus-faced guests, spending all their time ripping into Joe Biden, the Democratic party and China.

Don't you think it's absurd for them to pillory Joe Biden and imply that he's a drip when it comes to police-making and decision-making at a time when Trump's dilatory tactic has drawn ire from global media outlets. Worst yet, Fox News is reporting that "President Trump makes joke about dating models while discussing COVID-19 models." Don't you think it would be churlish for a president to make jokes when 59,000 people have been killed by this virus worldwide?

What does humanity mean to Trump? His petty self-interest, jaundiced view of international affairs , and personal animus against liberals and his critics, if anything, happen to be good news for some nations resentful of America's leadership. And such nations are working hard to expand their spheres of influence as Trump reverts to self-isolationism espoused by the Ming Dynasty back to 1370, during which the emperor of China issued an injunction demanding that China stop sending ships to other nations to do business with foreigners . The shot of this decision was Manchus invaded the Ming Dynasty later on and put an end to Han people's ruling of China.

Only a harebrained leader who has been bit by a bat from Wuhan would make the same mistake.

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@goldberg,

The upshot of this decision

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

If you were a billion times smarter you would not have used such a ridiculous example.

Leave the conclusion drawing to me. I'm the one who is best equipped for it.

glitterbag wrote:

I didn't fly off the handle, I pushed back.....

"Pushing back against the idea that the US should be safe and secure from the bad guys" is treasonous in my book.

glitterbag wrote:

you refuse to say if you ever served...

Correct. My private life is none of your business. Attempting to pry into my private life is a personal attack.

glitterbag wrote:

I don't know anyone who is embarrassed about DOD service except those who were dishonorably discharged.

Good for you.

glitterbag wrote:

Just admit you have never served the country, like so many others have.

Mind your own business.

glitterbag wrote:

You are an armchair warrior

You're a traitor who attacks people for saying that America should be safe from threats.

glitterbag wrote:

who knows zippity doo dah about the reality of the service.

You cannot provide any examples of untrue statements in my posts.

glitterbag wrote:

You even think the Russians beat the US Military in there Korean War......

I think the Korean War ended in a draw. And I am correct to think it.

You are referring to a thread where I mentioned Soviet fighter aces who downed many American pilots.

I mentioned that because progressives were claiming that American pilots are magically better than non-American pilots.

Progressives were making this silly claim in an attempt to blunt criticism of Barack Obama for sabotaging the US Air Force.

glitterbag wrote:

don't pretend you didn't offer that as a fact

It is a fact that the Korean War ended in a draw.

It is a fact that Soviet fighter aces were quite lethal to US pilots in the Koran War.

It is a fact that US pilots are not magically better than other pilots.

glitterbag wrote:

"you quoted wikipedia" and ignored the sites I recommended for more indepth historical facts/history.

Your recommendation was pretty vague. You didn't really provide enough information to direct me to any site.

glitterbag wrote:

By the way, I asked you to provide links to treasonous comments, you didn't provide any such thing....

You launched a personal attack against me as soon as you saw me suggest that the US should be safe and secure.

glitterbag wrote:

you simply pointed to the comment where I chided you for positing your 'expertise'

I did not posit any expertise. I merely said that America should have a strong defense.

That said, I do have more than enough expertise to back up all of my claims if anyone challenges them. This is why no one can provide any examples of a fact that I am wrong about.

glitterbag wrote:

despite that you have never served.

Whether I have served or not is none of your business.

And what is the definition of service anyway? Is being in the Coast Guard service? Is being a police officer service?

I once heard a progressive say that being a Supreme Court justice was greater service to our country than serving in the military. So is being a federal judge service?

I'm not claiming to have served in any of those roles by the way. Neither am I denying it. As always, my private life is none of anyone's business.

glitterbag wrote:

My remark was not treasonous,

Your objection to "me saying that the US should be safe and secure" was so strong that you launched into a personal attack.

Clearly you do not like the idea of America having a strong defense.

glitterbag wrote:

you just got pissed because I pointed out that despite your so-called 170 IQ, you don't have the expertise that I do.....

I would have no objection to you having more expertise than I do. However, I very much doubt that you have any expertise. You never contribute any knowledge to a thread. All you ever do is make personal attacks.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

If you were a billion times smarter you

‘d still be a complete moron.

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@izzythepush,

Falsely accusing me of your own lack of intelligence will not change the reality that I'm the one with the 170 IQ and you are not.

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Ah-hahahahahahaha . . .

Self-delusion knows no bounds. such as believing one's own lies.

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@Setanta,

Can you imagine the complete mental collapse that would follow were he to accept the truth?

It’s no wonder he prefers to live in a fantasy land.

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@izzythepush,

Neither you nor Setanta are capable of providing any examples of anything untrue in my posts.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Ah-hahahahahahaha . . .
Self-delusion knows no bounds. such as believing one's own lies.

Your utter failure to provide any examples of anything untrue in my posts speaks for itself.

Your logic is a complete failure too. Even if you had been capable of providing an example of something untrue in my posts, if I believed it, that would make it an error not a lie.

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@goldberg,

goldberg wrote:

Don't you think it's absurd for them to pillory Joe Biden and imply that he's a drip when it comes to police-making and decision-making at a time when Trump's dilatory tactic has drawn ire from global media outlets.

I don't find it at all absurd. Biden wants to violate our civil liberties, and for no reason other than his own sadistic pleasure over violating our civil liberties. He must be opposed.

goldberg wrote:

What does humanity mean to Trump? His petty self-interest, jaundiced view of international affairs , and personal animus against liberals and his critics, if anything, happen to be good news for some nations resentful of America's leadership. And such nations are working hard to expand their spheres of influence as Trump reverts to self-isolationism espoused by the Ming Dynasty back to 1370, during which the emperor of China issued an injunction demanding that China stop sending ships to other nations to do business with foreigners . The shot of this decision was Manchus invaded the Ming Dynasty later on and put an end to Han people's ruling of China.

No politician is perfect. Right now Trump is the person who defends our civil liberties from people like Biden. That overrides all other concerns.

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