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Trump, be a leader, not a blamer.

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 10:43 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
My cat is smarter than Coldjoint. Don’t waste your time, everyone knows he’s an idiot.

Coldjoint is smart enough to defend his positions with intelligent arguments.

That makes him quite a bit smarter than you are.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 10:44 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Those days are over. Christians are no longer a scourge against humanity.
Sounds like a line from Monty Python

"The reports of bestiality among the senior officer staff are highly exaggerated. Weve got it down to just a few dozen cases per week "
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 10:45 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Coldjoint is a bigot only interested in sources/posters who confirm his own bigotry.

This tendency of the left to always falsely accuse everyone of bigotry is pretty silly.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 10:46 am
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:
I'm just confounded by the fact that his supporters still come out swinging in such unsettling times.

You should learn to cope with people disagreeing with you.


goldberg wrote:
Well, maybe it's the byproduct of anti-intellectualism or social decay.

No. It's the way Mr. Trump protects Americans from progressives.

Americans like being protected from progressives.


goldberg wrote:
For what's worth, it's disconcerting that even lots Americans trade reason for passion. That's a recipe for perdition. It could be an inferno in the words of a poet named Dante to boot.

Like when you spout childish name-calling instead of making intelligent arguments?
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 10:47 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Di you know the Trump family hs significant holdings in the pharma corp that manufactures HCQ and CQ???
Ya think there was anothr motive in the stable geniuses brain other than recognizing the chloroquines were a "GAME CHANGER"???

I've not bothered to worry about it.

Medicines will either pass the FDA tests or they won't.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 10:51 am
@coldjoint,
That would explain this, then:

https://i.imgur.com/PqYCGzo.jpg
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 11:07 am
@farmerman,
Just to set the record straight, the Protestants gleefully slaughtered the aboriginal inhabitants of land they colonized--the principle example being the English in their colonies. So did the Dutch and the Swedes, although the former were more interested in making money, and the latter just had that tiny colony on the east coast of North America which is now called Delaware.

Modern scholars estimate that 40,000 to 50,000 people (mostly women, who were mostly elderly) were executed as witches in the 16th and 17th centuries.

No one knows who many Africans were slaughtered by the European colonists, but modern scholars estimate that from 10,000,000 to 15,000,000 were killed in the Belgian Congo, alone. In all the African colonies, such atrocities were usually justified by alleging the victims to have been savage pagans. When Columbus came back from his first voyage, he asked Queen Isabella of Castilla y Léon for permission to enslave the "Indians" (Arawak, specifically the Taíno). She refused him, categorically forbidding him to do so. As far as she was concerned, if they converted, the were christians and could not therefore be enslaved (although I doubt if the Taíno would have understood a distinction between peonage and slavery); if they did not convert, they were limbs of Satan and must be extirpated. When Chris returned to the Caribbean, he immediately enslaved the Taíno, which the Spaniards in the islands had no problem with. Columbus returned from that voyage, fitted out his third expedition, and departed. It was only after he had sailed that Isabella learned that he had instituted slavery in the new colonies. Isabella was not someone you wanted to piss off. She had accomplished the reconquista in large measure, by losing her temper and charging the Muslim forces (who invariably outnumbered the Spaniards), leading her knights and men at arms to attack with fanatical ferocity. When she learned that Chris had blatantly disobeyed her, she ordered his execution on his return. Fortunately for Chris, Ferdinand II, her hubby, was present, and convinced her to impose a huge fine. Chris got back, was run through a quick trial, and thrown into prison because he couldn't pay the fine. Eventually, well-wishers came up with the money to pay the fine, and he was released. He made one more voyage in 1502, but he was a broken man by then.

There was a Dominican friar named Bartolomé de las Casas who became disillusioned with the abuse of the aboriginals. He freed those indios who had been his slaves, and lobbied through the Dominicans for these abuses to be suppressed. Eventually, King Carlos, the loony HRE Charles V, established the Council of the Indies (1524, 1525?) who supervised and administered the royal authority in the New World and the Philippines. Modern scholars estimate that 8,000,000 aboriginal people died during the Spanish conquest--although most of the probably died of disease.

But the conservative/reactionary whackjobs ignore the slaughters carried out by christians because they have an anti-Muslim agenda. At most, they will just say that those events are history, old news--if they are willing to admit these things at all. But slaughter of others by Christians at some magical point after the beginning of the 20th century--the slaughter has continued.That includes denying the slaughter of nominal Muslims at Srebrenica in 1995, when more that 8000 Bosnians, mostly unarmed men and boys, were gunned down by Serbs.

Inconvenient truth. Enough Muslims had been slaughtered by the end of the last century that one can understand why Muslim whack jobs are eager to kill christians. As far as many Arabs are concerned, the crusades never ended.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 11:09 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Christians do not like to kill Muslims.

Christians merely want Muslims to stop killing Christians.


This is utter bullshit. Can you say Srebrenica?
farmerman
 
  3  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 11:14 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Like when you spout childish name-calling instead of making intelligent arguments?
as he engages in childish nyah nyah nyah retorts
farmerman
 
  1  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 11:16 am
@Setanta,
What was the name of the English general who handed out smallpox treated blankets to the Natives
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 11:23 am
@farmerman,
Jeffrey Amherst.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 11:38 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Inconvenient truth. Enough Muslims had been slaughtered by the end of the last century that one can understand why Muslim whack jobs are eager to kill christians.

I have no such understanding. As far as I'm concerned we should just keep dronestriking suspected terrorists until we run out of suspects.


Setanta wrote:
As far as many Arabs are concerned, the crusades never ended.

It's a shame that they are wrong. The Crusades shouldn't have ended. We should have kept on defending ourselves from Islamic aggression.

I'm all for resuming the Crusades and driving all the Muslims out of Turkey and Syria.

Israel should be left in the hands of Jewish Israelis however. They are the original indigenous population of the West Bank area.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 11:41 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
This is utter bullshit.

Not at all. The West's objections to Islam stem entirely from a desire to not be murdered.


Setanta wrote:
Can you say Srebrenica?

That was part of a civil war in which locals on all sides massacred each other, and which did not reflect the beliefs of any sect.

Not to mention the fact that the wars in Yugoslavia ended some time ago.

Although the world is certainly still suffering from the result of NATO's aggression against Serbia. That's what legitimized Putin's subsequent invasions of Georgia and Ukraine.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 11:44 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
as he engages in childish nyah nyah nyah retorts

The only people here who are engaging in such retorts are you and Goldberg. Try to do better.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 12:07 pm
@oralloy,
Once again, bullshit . . . the Bosnians were not prosecuting an intentional program of "ethnic cleansing," and hadn't the means to do so if they had wanted to. The slaughter in Srebrenica was carried out by Bosnian Serbs as a deliberate act of "ethnic cleansing." In addition, Ratko Mladić and the Scorpions, a Serbian paramilitary group, participated in the massacre. Many of the Bosnian Serbs claim that it was Mladić who came up with the plan. The Bosnian Serbs and Mladić's Serbs are Orthodox Christians. Radovan Karadžić, the whackjob Sarajevo psychiatrist and first president of the co-called Republika Srpska, declared: ". . . the Serbian people have been chosen by God to protect the western frontiers of Orthodoxy." Your ignorance is monumental. If you didn't post bullshit lies, you'd have nothing to post.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 12:16 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
as he engages in childish nyah nyah nyah retorts

Maybe you should stop the name calling, and it will stop the replies.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 12:18 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
He has nothing, and when you trade blows you give the impression that his lies are worthy of consideration, they're not.

What I do have. and Oralloy too, is the integrity to talk to someone, not about them.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 12:21 pm
@coldjoint,
When I talk to ollie I like to see how bankrupt his knowledge base is. He miis a lotta month;y payments. But you guys are, at least, entertaining.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 12:23 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
When I talk to ollie I like to see how bankrupt his knowledge base is

Nice try, but that just is not true, and you know it. That is disingenuous and dishonest on your part.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2020 12:24 pm
Oralloy demonstrates his ignorance on a daily basis.
 

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