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Trump, be a leader, not a blamer.

 
 
Reply Fri 20 Mar, 2020 01:32 am
Realizing that this may be a perfect time to expose Trump's pathological lying and mishandling of covid-19, Hillary Clinton has used Twitter to hit out at Trump's xenophobic attack on China and his feckless governance.

“The president is turning to racist rhetoric to distract from his failures to take the coronavirus seriously early on, make tests widely available, and adequately prepare the country for a period of crisis,” she tweeted.

Hillary Clinton, who has learned some hard lessons in her own encounters with the self-respecting Trump's holier-than-thou approach and his crafty advisers like Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner or Brad Parscale, who is said to be considering rejoining Trump's team, also reminded the American people that it would be otiose for them to rely on Trump's administration to help them ride out the current crisis.

Gideon Rachman, who worked for The Economist for years before being poached by the Financial Times, agrees in his own column, and contends that America’s failure on covid-19 could dent America's reputation as the guardian of the rules-based international order.

So what can be done to tackle this? Do we need another around of blame game when citizens around the world are facing a threat? Let's face it: People are stockpiling; students are forced to use e-learning tools to imbibe knowledge; companies are shutting down their business operations; and hospitals are overstretched. Lots of Chinese students studying abroad, sensing the need to return to China instead of facing the risk of being afflicted by covid-19 in foreign nations, are scrambling to absquatulate, leaving many foreigne schools that live off Chinese money floundering. And no one knows whether these Chinese students will be allowed to go back to America to study, alas, owing to Trump's eagerness to tighten the rules on enforcing visa overstays for foreign students and exchange visitors. By the by, his wife, who used to be a model, was born in Slovenia. Pu.

In any case, nations need to work together to work out a solution aimed to tame the spread of this virus instead of engaging in the blame game. And Trump, who has taken to calling himself the best leader one could find in history, would be wise to to play ball with foreign nations to tackle the current crisis before the virus gets the better of mankind.

President Trump, it's a matter of life.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 20 Mar, 2020 06:39 am
Perhaps you should be the first to stop blaming your political opponents during an emergency.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 20 Mar, 2020 03:48 pm
@Brandon9000,
I thought only Trump was allowed to do that.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 20 Mar, 2020 10:10 pm
@farmerman,
Do what?
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 20 Mar, 2020 10:59 pm
@Brandon9000,
He casts false aspersions on everyone to avoid admitting he's not a leader..he's an annoying film flam bloviating huckster who's in way the hell over his head...and the lemmings (like a few members) are willing to obliterate themselves on the rocks to prove a pointless point.

Can anyone really say they would like to have Trump at their dinner table to celebrate your grandmother's 100th birthday???? He has to be the center of attention, the only boy in the spotlight, screw Granny, she should be honored that a craven creep like donnie even showed up. OMFG...
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 20 Mar, 2020 11:21 pm
Watch the Governors...maybe not all of them, but many of them are leaders....Trump is not a leader, he is a provocateur and fabulist...which is thousands of miles away from leadership, but then again, he doesn't want to lead..he wants to be worshiped, admired, envied......yeah, of course, all fat wrinkled 75 year old men are worshiped as rock stars (in his vainglorious dreams) and pay porn stars to sleep with them.

I'm not disparaging 70 something's, there are so many interesting people in their 70's and older...Trump is not interesting....he's an abomination and an attention junky.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 12:15 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

He casts false aspersions on everyone to avoid admitting he's not a leader..he's an annoying film flam bloviating huckster who's in way the hell over his head...and the lemmings (like a few members) are willing to obliterate themselves on the rocks to prove a pointless point.

Can anyone really say they would like to have Trump at their dinner table to celebrate your grandmother's 100th birthday???? He has to be the center of attention, the only boy in the spotlight, screw Granny, she should be honored that a craven creep like donnie even showed up. OMFG...

The original poster, by creating the original post, simultaneously counseled Trump not to blame his political enemies in the midst of a crisis, and himself blamed Trump, his own political enemy, in the midst of a crisis. It is a contradiction to tell someone not to do something while doing it yourself.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 12:31 am
@Brandon9000,
Quote:
The original poster, by creating the original post, simultaneously counseled Trump not to blame his political enemies in the midst of a crisis, and himself blamed Trump, his own political enemy, in the midst of a crisis. It is a contradiction to tell someone not to do something while doing it yourself.


Unless the original poster is the President of the United States.... your point is nonsense, Brandon. The president is the leader of the United States. He is supposed to be the one leading. I expect a president to be presidential. I don't expect anyone else to do so.

The president is acting like a leader. He is acting like a typical internet user. That is a big problem. I don't need you to act like a leader. That isn't your job.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 12:34 am
@Brandon9000,
Pay attention, don't respond as if you are nitwit....
goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 02:38 am
@Brandon9000,
I'm not blaming Trump. I'm imploring him to save people's lives and act like a can-do leader instead of a procrastinator. He should be doing more as the president of the United States; that's his duty.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 08:27 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Pay attention, don't respond as if you are nitwit....

Name calling is the lowest form of debate. It's what people do when they cannot muster an actual logical defense.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 08:35 am
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:

I'm not blaming Trump. I'm imploring him to save people's lives and act like a can-do leader instead of a procrastinator. He should be doing more as the president of the United States; that's his duty.

So, now you'd have to prove that he isn't doing enough. Presumably, "enough" would have to be judged in terms of what other world leaders are doing. All you have done is to state without evidence that his performance has been poor.

Also, I am assuming that that you are unacquainted with the idea of everyone pulling together in an emergency? Personally, I'd say that in any but the most extreme cases of dereliction of duty, condemning the actions of a president during an emergency to address the emergency is dishonorable.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 09:55 am
@Brandon9000,
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I'd say that in any but the most extreme cases of dereliction of duty, condemning the actions of a president during an emergency to address the emergency is dishonorable.


I agree with you completely on this point. I think you accept how horrible Trump is responding to the crisis.

Trump is a disaster of a president. He is

- Contradicting his own medical experts.
- Giving a muddled message while America needs clarity.
- Attacking the press instead of providing leadership.

Again, It is the president's duty to lead the country. If you are arguing that when Trump attacks Americans, it is the American's fault for not supporting him... that is some seriously fucked up thinking.

Trump is a disaster.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 09:58 am
@Brandon9000,
Let me say one more thing....

Trump's job is to work for me. This is a democracy. Trump is not a dictator where he can demand the loyalty of his subjects. He has to provide leadership and earn my respect. Any good leader would do exactly that.

Great leaders have earned respect. Trump is demanding it.

The idea that Trump's "subjects" have to fall in line while he fucks around without taking any responsibility is nonsense.
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mark noble
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:13 am
@goldberg,
Trump, Clinton, Obama, Bush, Blair, Biden, etc - salespersons of their financiers.
Wake up peeps! Exit your platonic caves and smell the ******* daylight.
Or not.
The world is YOUR oyster, Not theirs.
goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:00 pm
@Brandon9000,
There are no indications that Trump has been tearing his hair out trying to contain the spread of covid-19 in America right now, despite having announced that he had already sensed the seriousness of tackling this crisis. Trump "told reporters that states should try to acquire ventilators and tests on their own before asking the federal government’s assistance," according to an article written by Fanyin Zheng, who is an assistant professor of the Decision, Risk, and Operations Division of Columbia Business School. And Trump reportedly claimed that“The federal government's not supposed to be out there buying vast amounts of items and then shipping, you know, we're not a shipping clerk."

Plus, president Trump dismissed covid-19 as “hoax" weeks ago, and "lashed out at the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention following its warning that the outbreak could turn into a pandemic," according to an article written by Jeremy Cliffe for the New Statesman. Hoping to dissemble his government's ineptitude , he and his advisors even decided to irk China by calling covid-19 the Chinese virus, with a view to deflecting attention and shifting blame. As if on cue, Fox News, which has been his cheerleader for years, followed suit, with some of their news anchors proclaiming that " Chinese should say sorry to us.". Fox News only changed tack a week ago after the irascible Trish Regan reprimanded Trump's critics on Fox for amplifying the message that covid-19 would be a serious threat facing America. Which is to say even Fox News realized that it would be wrong to slur over the threat of covid-19 when its arch-rivals MSNBC and CNN started plastering your TV screen with massive news about covid-19.

Taken together, Trump could have told the public the effects of covid-19 on their jobs and health. He could have asked American health authorities to order more ventilators; buyers must now wait 8-12 weeks for new ones to arrive, which cost $10,000 and $60,000 apiece. The Economist, which is a British publication, argues that "if the virus keeps spreading at the current rate, America would run out of spare devices in four weeks." America wouldn't be in a situation like this if Trump had done it.

I think no one knows what's in store for mankind since nationalist populism seems to be the order of the day, whereas realism is frowned upon.
goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:05 pm
@mark noble,
Thanks for the tip.
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goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:12 pm
@Brandon9000,
Fox News removed Regan from prime-time slot last week, which means her show is on hiatus.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:30 pm
@goldberg,
I don't think I know who Regan is....is he/she a Fox News person?
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:53 pm
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:

There are no indications that Trump has been tearing his hair out trying to contain the spread of covid-19 in America right now, despite having announced that he had already sensed the seriousness of tackling this crisis. Trump "told reporters that states should try to acquire ventilators and tests on their own before asking the federal government’s assistance," according to an article written by Fanyin Zheng, who is an assistant professor of the Decision, Risk, and Operations Division of Columbia Business School. And Trump reportedly claimed that“The federal government's not supposed to be out there buying vast amounts of items and then shipping, you know, we're not a shipping clerk."

What he actually said was:

“We have stockpiles now. We’re ordering tremendous numbers of ventilators, respirators, masks, and they’re ordered. And they’re coming,” Trump said. “But if they can get them directly, it’s always going to be faster.”

and he said:

"They can get them faster by getting them on their own," Trump told reporters at the White House. "In other words, go through a supply chain that they may have because the governors, during normal times, the governors buy a lot of things, not necessarily through the federal government."

In other words, he suggested that "if the can get them directly" through existing channels it would be faster, but said that the federal government had already ordered plenty that they could have if need be. The idea that Trump is leaving them high and dry is false.

goldberg wrote:

Plus, president Trump dismissed covid-19 as “hoax" weeks ago...

This is a lie. I defy you to link in a quotation in which he says that covid-19 is itself a hoax. And no linking in a quotation of what someone who hates him claims he said. What he actually said was that some Democratic statements about it were a hoax.

goldberg wrote:

...He could have asked American health authorities to order more ventilators...

As shown above ("We’re ordering tremendous numbers of ventilators"), that's exactly what he did.


goldberg wrote:

The Economist, which is a British publication, argues that "if the virus keeps spreading at the current rate, America would run out of spare devices in four weeks." America wouldn't be in a situation like this if Trump had done it.

He did do it as show above - "We’re ordering tremendous numbers of ventilators."

Trump didn't create the virus or the resource shortages. These would both exist if he weren't president.
 

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