What was Trump doing in the Middle East?

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Look up Ilan Halevi,

I will look nothing up. You said it, you prove it. Your posts prove nothing but your own arrogance.

Go post a youtube video. Knockout!

oralloy wrote:

The other part of the resolution is not in dispute.

Says you.

International law requires Israel to comply with the Palestinians' Right of Return.

It has left the matter of Israel's oppression of the Palestinians unredressed.

Israel doesn't have a right to exist.

So then you're playing dumb.

You're completely and utterly wrong, nonetheless. There is no such thing as "Jewish DNA." These families originated in areas outside of Palestine.

No. It's about the Zionists complying with their obligations in regard to the Palestinians' Right of Return.

oralloy wrote:

Without that peace, Israel gets to keep the entire West Bank for themselves.

There will be no peace for Israel given those circumstances.

Verily delusional.

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Go post a youtube video. Knockout!

So far you are a majority of one. You have proven nothing and I am sure you will not any time soon. But if you want a video, here is a good one.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7ByJb7QQ9U[/youtube]

InfraBlue wrote:

oralloy wrote:

The other part of the resolution is not in dispute.

Says you.

Says history. Israel's willingness to comply with their part of what international law required of them is well-documented.

InfraBlue wrote:

International law requires Israel to comply with the Palestinians' Right of Return.

Palestinians who fled the 1967 war would have been allowed to return had the Palestinians peacefully agreed to a two-state solution.

The only reason why it didn't happen is because the Palestinians refused to do what international law required of them and make peace with Israel.

InfraBlue wrote:

It has left the matter of Israel's oppression of the Palestinians unredressed.

No such oppression. Israel agreed to do what international law required of them. It is only the Palestinians who refused to comply with international law.

InfraBlue wrote:

Israel doesn't have a right to exist.

International laws says that it does. And by violating international law, the Palestinians have forfeited their rights under international law.

InfraBlue wrote:

So then you're playing dumb.

Everything that I said is completely correct, and is backed up by DNA, history, and archaeology.

InfraBlue wrote:

You're completely and utterly wrong, nonetheless. There is no such thing as "Jewish DNA." These families originated in areas outside of Palestine.

DNA says otherwise. DNA shows that Zionist families come from Palestine.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/epiphenom/2009/01/shared-genetic-heritage-of-jews-and.html

InfraBlue wrote:

No. It's about the Zionists complying with their obligations in regard to the Palestinians' Right of Return.

Palestinians who fled the 1967 war could have returned had the Palestinians adhered to international law and agreed to a two-state solution. The only reason why it didn't happen is because Palestinians refuse to comply with international law.

InfraBlue wrote:

oralloy wrote:

Without that peace, Israel gets to keep the entire West Bank for themselves.

There will be no peace for Israel given those circumstances.

That's an empty threat when you deny peace to Israel under any circumstances.

InfraBlue wrote:

Verily delusional.

No delusion. The Palestinians will never have any land outside the Gaza Strip without making peace with Israel. Better get used to calling them Gazans.

Wrong. What's well documented is Israel's skirting of international law.

Delusions upon delusions.

Wrong. What's well documented is Israel's skirting of international law.

No. International law requires Israel to comply with the Palestinians' Right of Return.

Much, much oppression. Israel has refused to comply with international law and its obligations towards the Palestinians in regard to their Right of Return.

Wrong. Given the fact that Israel bases its very existence on its travesties of international law, Israel does not have the right to exist.

Wrong. Everything you said is completely incorrect, and is not backed up by DNA, history, or archaeology.

Wrong. DNA shows that Ashkenazi families originated from outside of Palestine.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

The Zionists haven't complied with international law and their obligations towards the Palestinians in regard to their Right of Return.

These aren't any circumstances under which there will be no peace for Israel. Specifically, the circumstances are Israel's existence predicated on its oppression of the Palestinian people.

Delusions upon delusions.

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Wrong. What's well documented is Israel's skirting of international law.

It is a sovereign nations choice whether or not to follow international law. Why do you not acknowledge that fact?

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Delusions upon delusions.

No doubt about that, but it is not Oralloy who suffers from them, it is you.

mark.

Says you. Next.

InfraBlue wrote:

Wrong. What's well documented is Israel's skirting of international law.

That is incorrect. History records that Israel agreed to do everything that international law required of them. The only ones who refused to comply with international law are the Palestinians.

InfraBlue wrote:

No. International law requires Israel to comply with the Palestinians' Right of Return.

Palestinians who fled the 1967 war would have been allowed to return under the two-state solution. The only reason why it didn't happen is because the Palestinians refused to comply with international law.

InfraBlue wrote:

Much, much oppression. Israel has refused to comply with international law and its obligations towards the Palestinians in regard to their Right of Return.

No oppression. Palestinians who fled the 1967 war would have been allowed to return under the two-state solution. The only reason why it didn't happen is because the Palestinians refused to comply with international law.

InfraBlue wrote:

Wrong. Given the fact that Israel bases its very existence on its travesties of international law, Israel does not have the right to exist.

That's not a fact. Palestinians who fled the 1967 war would have been allowed to return under the two-state solution. The only reason why it didn't happen is because the Palestinians refused to comply with international law.

International law says that Israel does have the right to exist. By breaking international law, the Palestinians have forfeited their right to the West Bank.

InfraBlue wrote:

Wrong. Everything you said is completely incorrect, and is not backed up by DNA, history, or archaeology.

That is incorrect:
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/epiphenom/2009/01/shared-genetic-heritage-of-jews-and.html

InfraBlue wrote:

Wrong. DNA shows that Ashkenazi families originated from outside of Palestine.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

All that study shows is that non-Jewish women married into Jewish families and brought in an influx of non-Jewish DNA. That is to be expected considering that these families were forced to live in foreign territory.

It does not change the fact that Zionist families are the original indigenous population of the West Bank area.

InfraBlue wrote:

The Zionists haven't complied with international law and their obligations towards the Palestinians in regard to their Right of Return.

Yes they have. Palestinians who fled the 1967 war would have been allowed to return home under the two-state solution. The only reason why it didn't happen is because the Palestinians refused to comply with international law and make peace with Israel.

InfraBlue wrote:

These aren't any circumstances under which there will be no peace for Israel. Specifically, the circumstances are Israel's existence predicated on its oppression of the Palestinian people.

No such oppression. Palestinians who fled the 1967 war would have been allowed to return had the Palestinians complied with international law and peacefully agreed to a two-state solution.

And without peace, Israel gets to keep the West Bank for themselves.

InfraBlue wrote:

Delusions upon delusions.

No delusions. The Palestinians will not be given any land outside the Gaza Strip without making peace with Israel.

The Zionists and their friends are happy to follow international law 100% of the time.

It is only the Palestinians who refuse to follow international law (which requires the Palestinians to make peace with Israel).

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Says you. Next.

There is no next for the Palestinians. Either they make peace or they deal with Israel.

by oppressing Palestinians

There is no such thing as "Jewish DNA." These families originated in areas outside of Palestine.

Zionist Ashkenazi families originated in areas outside of Palestine, namely Europe.

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by oppressing Palestinians

There is no oppression. They are treated better in Israel than other ME countries unless they are killing people, then they are killed. Straight forward propaganda is still propaganda.

Time for another propaganda video.

You are wrong about Israel's willingness to comply with international law. Israel has repeatedly agreed to the two-state solution.

You are wrong about the two state solution. It is perfectly fair and would allow Palestinians who fled the 1967 war to return home.

You are wrong about DNA, history, and archaeology. They show that the Zionists are the original indigenous population of the West Bank area.

As one example of this:
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/epiphenom/2009/01/shared-genetic-heritage-of-jews-and.html

It is not a delusion that the Palestinians will never get any land beyond the Gaza Strip without making peace with Israel. Neither is it sociopathic for Israel to keep the West Bank for themselves given the Palestinians' refusal to comply with international law and make peace.