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What was Trump doing in the Middle East?

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 12:10 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
Zionist youth are taught to hate the Palestinians,

I can prove Palestinian children are. There are many videos of what they are taught.

Your turn, show us Zionist children being taught hate.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 01:39 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Wrong. The two-state solution is unfair and unjust by coercing the Palestinians to relinquish their Right of Return.

Letting both peoples peacefully coexist in their own states is perfectly fair and just.

Wrong. The two-state solution is unfair and unjust by coercing the Palestinians to relinquish their Right of Return.

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Wrong. The Palestinians have the Right of Return.

No they don't.

Yes they do.

oralloy wrote:

They only have the right to a two-state solution. And they only have that if they agree to peace.

No they don't. The Palestinians have the Right of Return, and the Zionists will only have peace after they comply thereof.

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Peace will only be accomplished by the Zionists' compliance thereof.

Israel is not going to cease to exist. If Palestinians refuse to make peace, they will get nothing at all.

Then by continuing to oppress the Palestinians, Israel will never see the peace it claims to desire.

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Yes they are.

DNA, history, and archaeology say that you are wrong.

DNA, history, and archaeology say that I am right.

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
No they aren't.

DNA, history, and archaeology say that you are wrong.

Nuh-uh.

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
A two-state solution coerces the Palestinians into renouncing their Right of Return throughout their homeland.

They would be able to live in their own state, which would be located within their homeland.

Renouncing their rights is not acceptable to the Palestinians.

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Then there will never be peace.

Without peace, Palestinians will get nothing at all.

Without the Palestinians' rights there will never be peace.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 01:41 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Let's be clear here. What you are characterizing as oppression is Israel's very existence.

The only way for Israel to end this alleged oppression is by ceasing to exist.

When the Zionists put Israel's existence in terms of either complying with their obligation towards the Palestinians' Right of Return and ceasing to exist, then yes, Israel is required to cease to exist.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 01:54 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
When the Zionists put Israel's existence in terms of either complying with their obligation towards the Palestinians' Right of Return and ceasing to exist, then yes, Israel is required to cease to exist.

No they aren't.

International law gives Israel the right to exist, and the right to use military force to protect their existence.

International law does not give Israel the right to exist by oppressing the Palestinians in denying them their Right of Return.


oralloy wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:
International law does not give Israel the right to exist by oppressing the Palestinians in denying them their Right of Return.

International law gives Israel exactly that right, as well as the right to use military force to protect their existence.

No it doesn't. International law does not give Israel the right to exist, by military force or otherwise, by oppressing the Palestinians in denying them their Right of Return.


oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Yes they do.

That is incorrect. Palestinians only have the right to a two-state solution, and only if they agree to peace.

Wrong. Palestinians have the Right of Return, that's the only way to peace.


oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
With out rights for the Palestinians, the Zionists have no peace at all.

Palestinians have the right to a two-state solution, but only if they agree to peace.

Wrong. Palestinians have the Right of Return, and peace will only be achieved by Israel's compliance thereof.


oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
With the Palestinians' Right of Return the Zionists will have peace.

Israel is not going to cease to exist. If they will not agree to accept Israel's existence, the Palestinians will end up with nothing at all.

Israel will never see peace without desisting in existing.


oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Palestinians have the Right of Return.

That is incorrect. Palestinians only have the right to a two state solution, and only if they agree to peace.

Wrong. Palestinians have the Right of Return, and that's the only way to peace.


oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
That is the only way to peace.

The Palestinians will not get anything at all in that case.

The Zionists will not get peace without it.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:00 pm
@coldjoint,
All you've proven is that you continually cite islamophobic websites to justify your islamophobia.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:11 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
cite islamophobic websites to justify your islamophobia.

No such thing as Islamophobia. The fear is rational. It is a word invented to use like a club to stop people from talking about what Islam says and does. Fail.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:26 pm
@coldjoint,
Sounds like your argument for wetting your bed. Sounds good, but none of the other kids' moms will allow you to sleepovers anyway.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:31 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Sounds like your argument for wetting your bed.

I suggest you stay out of this. You have 0 knowledge of Islam.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:37 pm

How many videos would you like to see?
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:38 pm
Quote:
Teaching Palestinian Children to Value Terrorism

https://www.cfr.org/blog/teaching-palestinian-children-value-terrorism
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:41 pm
@coldjoint,
Right. Because you do?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:44 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Right. Because you do?

Yes I do. Anyone can read it for themselves. Anyone with the ability to comprehend what they read would come to no different conclusion. I guess that leaves you out. Sorry.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:54 pm
Quote:
American Muslim Children Taught to Hate

It is here too. This from 2012 and it is only getting worse.
Quote:
“If we go to war, brothers and sisters – and one day we will, believe me – that”s why you”re commanded [to fight in] jihad. When Allah demands us to fight, we”re not stopping and nobody”s stopping us.” (Sermon by Siraj Wahhaj entitled “Stand Up to Justice,” delivered on May 8, 1992 and distributed as a video.)Islamic teachings such as this are what led Major Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood Murderer, to commit his acts.

Although I have only focused on three mosques that lead the way in introducing Muslim children to violence and hatred, there are hundreds scattered across the U.S. Few states are immune from this growing threat. The violence spewed by these Islamic leaders will ultimately lead to more violence in the name of Islam. I have witnessed firsthand the violence being taught. There are numerous such Islamic centers in North Carolina, Florida, Virginia, New York and California.

Unless Muslim parents decry the violent teachings of Islam to their children, there will continue to be more and more Siraj Wahhaj-type Islamic leaders in America. The ultimate result will be the suffering of America as we now see in France, Britain and Canada.

https://clarionproject.org/american-muslim-children-taught-hate/
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Feb, 2020 02:57 pm
Quote:
Philadelphia: Muslim kids dance to chopping heads jihad song, investigation goes quiet

Quote:
A group of kids at the Muslim American Society Islamic Center in Philadelphia were captured on camera dancing and lip-syncing and performing on stage to a happy little ditty of chopping heads and leading armies of Allah and torturing enemies and other Islamic political and religious principles….

“[This] shocking event at the Muslim American Society (MAS) Islamic Center in Philadelphia to celebrate ‘Ummah Day’ … captured children lip syncing in Arabic about beheadings in the name of Islam with lyrics like, ‘We will chop off their heads. … We will lead the army of Allah fulfilling his promise, we will subject them to eternal torture.’ Additionally,” the congressmen wrote, “the anthem called for the elimination of Israel with lyrics promoting jihad.”

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/09/philadelphia-muslim-kids-dance-to-chopping-heads-jihad-song-investigation-goes-quiet
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 11:25 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Israel will never see peace without desisting in existing.

Your claims about international law are not true.

International law does give Israel the right to exist.

International law does give Israel the right to use military force to protect their existence.

International law says that Palestinians are war criminals for pledging unending war against Israel until they are destroyed.



Your claims about DNA, history, and archaeology are also not true.

DNA, history, and archaeology show quite clearly that Zionists are the original indigenous population of the West Bank area.



By refusing to ever make peace with Israel until they are destroyed, Palestinians forfeit their right to any land in the West Bank. International law does not require Israel to give land to a race of war criminals who refuse to ever make peace. Now it is OK for Israel to take whatever land they want and give Palestinians nothing at all.

Since they have to go someplace, Palestinians will likely still end up with the Gaza Strip. But Palestinians should not expect to be able to keep living in the West Bank. Nor should they expect any land swap to compensate them for their loss of the West Bank.

We may as well start referring to Palestinians as Gazans, because that is what they are now.

Threats that Israel will not see peace if they do this are empty and hollow. You've already pledged that Israel will never see peace until they are destroyed. So if Israel takes the West Bank for themselves and gives Palestinians nothing beyond the Gaza Strip, any violence that Palestinians offer in response will be no different from what those Palestinians would be doing anyway.

Your hopes for Palestinian violence are somewhat forlorn as well. Israel is doing a pretty good job of walling Palestinians off so they cannot harm people. And if Palestinians get too rambunctious, it is pretty easily for Israel to bomb them relentlessly until they give up and settle down again.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 05:41 pm
@coldjoint,
And it leaves you a crowd of one. I'm beginning to think you are oralloy's sock account.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 05:43 pm
Trump was doing his bit to extend the Israeli, Palestinian conflict.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 05:50 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
And it leaves you a crowd of one.

Your opinion is of no value to me. I cannot see a time when it ever will be. If you have something on topic, spit it out.
Quote:
I'm beginning to think

I have seen no signs of that.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 05:51 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Trump was doing his bit to extend the Israeli, Palestinian conflict.

Islam beat him to it.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 06:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
And it leaves you a crowd of one.

Is this reply supposed to make any sense?
 

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