Keep warm: throw another koran on the fire

thethinkfactory wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

thethinkfactory wrote:

What is going on in Gitmo is an attrocity. We all know it - we can't even ignore it - we simply say that it is okay in comparison to what "they" did.

What, exactly, do you find atrocious about Gitmo?

This is simple. Not that they are being tortured, or Korans are being burned... (This may be the case - but until we have proof - as hard as that might be - I will fall silent on that).

It is the fact that we have hundreds of people and have detained them, without rights, against our and international law, and have done so in the name of freedom and rights.

I want one simple thing. Give them the due process they are owed as human beings.

Attrocity may be a bit steep - but I don't think it is out of line. Due process is such an ingrained portion of our rights that it goes directly against the American conceptions of rights to deny it - no matter what any administration wants to term these detainees.

Furthermore, to hear the administration keep reminding us that they are 'bad men' and hope that sates our intelligence or sense of justice is a farce. Here is why: Innocent until due process proves them guilty. What can be disputed?

TF

Thanks for the clarification. I thought that's what you meant, but wasn't sure.

Of course some might think the meals being served to the detainees constitute an atrocity. Eye of the beholder?

PS to DTOM: I've always thought you could leave the flag up after sundown as long as it has a spotlight on it.

I fly my flag at home 24 hours a day. What does "properly illuminated" mean?
Section 6a: "when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness." The Flag Rules offer no additional guidance on this question. We interpret this to mean that there is either a light directly upon the flag or that there is sufficient local lighting to make the flag easily visible at night.

The flag should be cleaned and mended when necessary.

When the flag is displayed on a car, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.

Section 8k of the Flag Code (see below) states, "The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning."

but when we have so many people proclaiming their superior patriotism to others, they should all take the time to know the rules.

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"(c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor."[/list]

Yeah, like expanding Daylight Saving year round. :wink:

Ticomaya wrote:

Yeah, like expanding Daylight Saving year round. :wink:

wouldn't surprise me...

hey, d'ya hear that pf is doing a reunion in the fall with rw ? i think i heard it was for a charity.

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

Yeah, like expanding Daylight Saving year round. :wink:

wouldn't surprise me...

hey, d'ya hear that pf is doing a reunion in the fall with rw ? i think i heard it was for a charity.

Hadn't heard that ... that would be ultra cool. Is this a one-time concert? Where?

Surely, though, a violation of the new Federal law would be at least a low-level felony. Gotta give it some teeth....

Over the years, I've watched with horror several campaigns to get such an amendment. I can hardly think of a more horrific change to the Constitution, as it constitutes a partial repealing of the first amendment. If people were hauled off to jail merely for expressing a political viewpoint, this wouldn't be the United States any more - not the one the Founders created.