Bernie Sanders 2020

If the house supports Sanders and he wins in 2020, what will they be able to get through the senate, assuming it is still GOP-controlled?

Or will they start harassing and impeaching senators at that point, rather than seek common ground?

What's common ground? Letting insurance companies continue to brutalize the people? Keep college students indebted for life? Continue to subsidize big corporations? etc.?

Common ground is whatever can pass the senate to make it to the White House.

Why doesn't anyone seem to understand that each branch of government is a filter. The point of government isn't to pass bills but rather to kill them until they are commonly approved.

And why do you think Democrats wouldn't want insurance companies, health care providers, and any other business to brutalize people? They want them to so they can tax the big GDP growth that comes from such brutality.

Try proposing any forms of deregulation that would facilitate increased market entry and thus price-competition and Democrats complain that less regulation will result in worse quality.

If you want more affordable health care, you need more price competition in everything from medical/dental education to equipment. Affordable providers need to be able to do house calls and thus save money on rent. They need to be independent of hospitals that charge outrageous fees. There needs to be competition among drug makers for generic medications, etc. etc.

All these forms of competition are obstructed by either regulation, market collusion, or a combination of both.

Democrats don't want to interfere with the aspects of the market that keep GDP high because they want to use the big money for tax revenues, job creation, to stimulate further investment by means of regulations, etc. etc.

If it works against the interests of the people what good can come of it?

1. Since the republicans control the Senate and the democrats control the House, your partisan definition of common ground is completely wrong.

2. You intentionally left out the House in your partisan definition of common ground.

3. I could counter your partisan definition by simply replacing the word Senate with the word House in your definition.

4. If you were truly honest and sincere about common ground, your definition would have read:

Common ground is whatever can pass the senate and the House to make it to the White House.

5. I can also argue that common ground can only be accomplished when neither party has control of the Senate, the House, and the White House at the same time.

6. In other words, the only possible way to force common ground is to have divided government. The democrats and the republicans would both have to have some of the power at the same time.

7. Don't get me wrong. I am not looking for common ground. I want the democrats to attain all the power. I want the democrats to win control of the House, the Senate, and the White House.

8. I just wanted to point out that you want the exact same thing, except you want the republicans to have all the power.

9. So, you are being dishonest and disingenuous when you define common ground.

It is, was, and always has been a partisan republican.

I think you misread the post you are responding to. I said that IF Sanders wins, the Dems will control the White House AND THEN the question is what they will do with the House and the White House while the Senate is still GOP-controlled. E.g. will they do everything by executive order or start trying to impeach senators so that they can pass bills through both houses?


Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I am saying that if Sanders wins the White House, the Democrats will still have to find common ground with the Senate in order to get a House bill to the White House.


Outvoting the other party is not seeking common ground. Common ground is coming up with bills that get votes from both parties because they are commonly acceptable to both parties. I.e. seeking consensus between parties who differ is "seeking common ground."

In other words, the Democrats need to stop diametrically opposing the GOP and seeing government as an arsenal of weapons to remove the opposing party from obstructing your central planning that comes down through the pipe from Global Socialist Headquarters in Beijing or Moscow or wherever they keep that server where the Illuminati and the Global Communist-Socialist Party establishes its consensus and determines what all the puppet governments must do to comply with their planning.


The two parties have to find common ground rather than trying to work around the other party and remove it as an obstruction. I.e. they need to seek consensus by making bills that both parties can support.


That is not democracy. Democracy is honoring views that differ from yours and seeking consensus with them. Of course there are certain things you simply can't accept with your conscience, such as abortion; but then you look for other things you can commonly accept, such as sidewalks.


I have never wanted Republicans to have a totality of power. I just criticize Democrats/Socialism because they generally take the view that the purpose of democracy is to take it over for your party and force things through despite dissent.

Democracy is about listening to and honoring dissent when you have the upper hand. Democracy is about consent of the governed.

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Bernie Sanders’ Marijuana Legalization Plan Goes Furthest of Any Candidate

Sanders’ plan aims to keep the industry localized and diverse — and to keep Big Tobacco out of it

By EJ DICKSON, ROLLING STONE, OCTOBER 25, 2019

Sen. Bernie Sanders has unveiled one of the most ambitious marijuana legalization plans to date.

Yesterday, at precisely 4:20 p.m., the candidate released a detailed, sweeping proposal to legalize marijuana on the federal level. “Too many lives were ruined due to the disastrous criminalization of marijuana. Today I am releasing my plan to: Legalize marijuana with executive action, expunge past marijuana convictions, [and] invest in communities most affected by the War on Drugs,” the senator tweeted.

According to Sanders’ plan, the presidential candidate would ensure that revenue from the cannabis industry is pumped back into communities that have been most negatively affected by the War on Drugs, such as marginalized communities of color. The plan would authorize the creation of a $20 billion grant program within the Minority Business Development Agency to allow entrepreneurs of color to have the funds to start their businesses, as well as a $10 billion grant program to help fund businesses in areas that have been disproportionately affected by the War on Drugs.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/bernie-sanders-marijuana-weed-plan-legalization-903726/

He's looking at the legalization of pot as a minority jobs program...

Industry-bankrolled presidential candidates have spent months reciting GOP talking points claiming that Bernie’s Medicare for All plan would raise middle class taxes — but as of this morning, those wildly dishonest claims have been comprehensively debunked by renowned economists.

In a scathing new oped in The Guardian, University of California economists Gabriel Zucman and Emmanuel Saez meticulously review the data, and conclude that Bernie’s Medicare for All “would lead to a large tax cut for the vast majority of workers.” Zucman and Saez are the acclaimed authors of the new book The Triumph of Injustice: How the Rich Dodge Taxes and How to Make Them Pay.

Here’s the key passage providing more detail on their conclusions about Bernie’s plan:

Bernie Sanders’s tax proposals would be enough to replace all existing private insurance premiums, while leaving 2.6% of national income to cover the uninsured and spend on other programs. Under such a plan, the 9 bottom deciles of the income distribution would gain income on average, as would the bottom of the top 10%. With smart new taxes—such as broad income taxes exempting low wages and retirees—it is possible to make the vast majority of the population win from a transition to universal health insurance.

Supporters of Medicare for All are right. Funding universal health insurance through taxes would lead to a large tax cut for the vast majority of workers. It would abolish the huge poll tax they currently shoulder, and the data show that for most workers, it would lead to the biggest take-home pay raise in a generation.

This new oped follows a USA Today oped from President Barack Obama’s Medicare chief, which slammed Democratic opponents of Bernie’s plan for “parrot(ing) right-wing attacks on Medicare for All.”

So why are some Democratic candidates nonetheless parroting those GOP attacks on a Medicare for All initiative that is supported by the majority of House Democrats?

Why are these anti-Medicare-for-All presidential candidates so insistent on lying about health care and taxes?

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It doesn't give an option for those who do not want a government mandate. To ignore that fact is not a winning argument.

An All-Or-Nothing plan isn't going to work right now. Surely you, and Bernie, can recognize that.

And why not?

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‘Bernie Sanders has complete fluency in the struggles of working people’ — Rep. @IlhanMN explains why she supports @BernieSanders in the Democratic primary

Nah, you’re killed. Your conservatism is on display. You’re more Trump than Bernie. I work for Bern; he works for me. You work for Centrists on a message board.

Bernie’s looking good in Iowa.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5711364/bernie-sanders-iowa-grow-base/%3famp=true

Sen. Bernie Sanders stood on a stage in Iowa City’s pedestrian mall staring out at a crowd of more than 1,300 on Friday night. It was a cold autumn night, and his audience was a sea of bundled up supporters holding up signs and giant letters spelling out his name. Children looked on from a nearby playground. Here was a group within which were some of his most ardent supporters.

Things have been looking up for the Vermont senator since the start of October, when he suffered a heart attack. And in many ways, despite taking time off to rest, he’s managed to convert the last month into one of the most successful in his 2020 Democratic presidential campaign so far. He’s still polling in the top three, he’s shown he’s one of the strongest fundraisers in the field and he’s got the backing of the likes of New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar, two of the most recognizable progressive politicians in the nation. But one of the questions hovering over his campaign is whether he can grow his base of support, enough not only to win the nomination, but also to beat President Donald Trump.


In 2016, Sanders performed very well in Iowa, defying expectations when Hillary Clinton just barely beat him. In many ways, it was his competitive run overall that helped pave the way not just for his own candidacy, but for a collectively more progressive field of candidates happy to take up the mantle he turned mainstream. Part of the challenge for Sanders now is keeping the coalition he had in 2016 — and expanding it. That’s a hard feat for any candidate in a still-wide primary field, but possibly especially so for someone who is no longer a fresh face.

“It’s hard to capture the same kind of energy two times in a row,” said Tim Gannon, a former Democratic candidate for Iowa Secretary of Agriculture, of Sanders. “The dynamics are so much different. He’s not as much the insurgent because he ran last time and proved that he was popular and a lot of his ideas were popular, especially among Democrats, so instead of running after a person who was very much the front runner, he’s among … the hunted this time around, and I think that there are candidates who have eaten into some of the support that he enjoyed last time.”

Sanders’s campaign manager has recognized the need for additional voters, telling the Wall Street Journal this week that for a Sanders victory, “he needs a mass mobilization of people who have not voted before.” In a note to Sanders supporters on Friday, the campaign’s Iowa state director Misty Rebik said they had already “collected more commitments to caucus for Bernie Sanders than we had on January 1, 2016.”

This week, Sanders returned to Iowa for an “End Corporate Greed” tour through the state, accompanied by his wife, Jane. In the last several days, he’s also been rolling out local endorsements in multiple states, and he has planned travel to Detroit to appear alongside Rep. Rashida Tlaib (another member of the so-called freshman “Squad” in Congress) with a performance by Jack White, and several other scheduled rallies, including one with Omar. At events in Iowa this week, he often brought up the Ocasio-Cortez endorsement as well. It remains to be seen whether buzz created by such high-profile endorsements will have any effect on voters weighing him as a potential candidate to support.


U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders on stage at Bernie Sanders Rally "Bernie's Back" in Queensbridge Park on Oct. 19, 2019.
U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders on stage at Bernie Sanders Rally "Bernie's Back" in Queensbridge Park on Oct. 19, 2019. Pacific Press—Pacific Press/LightRocket via Ge
“I think he’s got a good line of support behind him, and I think he can grow it. That was actually, if I had a chance, I want to know from him … how he plans on maybe trying to get [Republicans] to come over and vote Democratic,” said Eva Garcia, 64, a Waterloo resident who drove an hour to Toledo, Iowa, for a Sanders town hall on Friday. Though Garcia said she caucused for Sanders when he first ran for President, she said she was “maybe” open to supporting someone else.


For many of his backers, it’s Sanders’s decades-long commitment to a message that they point to as his strength and the reason they like him. Some of them also point to it as a reason for picking him over his progressive counterpart, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a close friend and Senate colleague.

“Elizabeth Warren is a neat person in a lot of ways, but she is not Bernie Sanders. Bernie’s got the track record … he’s been consistent all the way through,” said Patrick Bosold, 70, a Fairfield resident wearing a baseball tee with a young Sanders on it that he picked up at a recent campaign event hosted in Iowa’s Field of Dreams. On Friday Bosold volunteered with the Sanders campaign for a press conference in Newton, Iowa, held at a Maytag complex, where Sanders said “it goes without saying” he would support whomever became the Democratic nominee, even it it was not him. (“I hope it’s me,” Sanders added.)

Sanders himself at events often notes how long he’s been singing the same song. Asked at a League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) event on Thursday night in Des Moines how he distinguished himself from other candidates (in a question specific to Latino voters), Sanders relied exclusively on that argument.

“What distinguishes my candidacy from the others is that I have been fighting for the working families of this country for many, many decades. I have walked on picket lines, probably more picket lines over the years than all of my competitors have collectively,” Sanders told an approving crowd, where some supporters sat wearing “Unidos Con Bernie” T-shirts.

After facing criticism in his first run for not reaching out to minorities enough and having a largely white team, the campaign has this time undertaken steps to address both in an attempt to shore up further support. But it will be voters from every corner of the Democratic party that he will have to convince to back him.

“To convince me to vote for someone else, other than Mayor Pete [Buttigieg], would be kind of hard,” said Nancy Sund, 70, a Toledo resident who attended Sanders’s town hall there on Friday. Sund said she supported Clinton in 2016, but after hearing so much about Sanders in the last election cycle, she said she wanted to see for herself whether he could be the right candidate for her.

“I was impressed,” Sund said of Sanders after the town hall. “I don’t know if it was enough to change my mind. It’s early yet.”

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If you rearrange the letters in Pete Buttigieg it spells Petit Bourgeoisie.