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George Galloway blasts the Senate

 
 
Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 06:47 am
Its a simple enough question Whooda
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 08:24 am
And thus far, Whooda has ducked.

As far as Galloway mainstream media coverage here on TV was concerned, plus the intolerably limited attention span and interest level of the viewers, Galloway was a one night wonder. I watched the NBC Nightly News for the following nights to see if there would be any followup. There was none.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 08:46 am
The last thing I want to do is "point score" on this issue Whooda, but I would find it very interesting to hear your views AFTER seeing the entire interview, just to see if you are of the same frame of mind about who beat who on Captol Hill that day.

I dont wish to change your political stance, you can still think what you like about Galloway (I personally wouldnt invite him round for dinner), but I would just like to read your opinion that either you were fed disinformation, were the victim of terrible News Coverage, or indeed still believe, now having witnessed it with your own eyes, that Galloway lost the day.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 08:51 am
What the hell is going on?!

A US government body hands out a report that says that USA interests, WITH GOVERNMENT CONNIVANCE, was responsible for 52% of these breaches and we're talking about how good or bad the coverage was of George!!

Maybe Whodathunk was thunking.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:03 am
I thunk you are right, JTT....but this thread is specifically about Gorgeous George. Is there a thread somewhere re. the US oil fiasco?
If not, maybe someone should start one. Any volunteers from The US?
I think a thread on this subject, started by a Brit, or other non US national could cause a lot of deflection from the heart of the topic, and would probably be interpreted as a case of American bashing, which wouldnt be condusive to healthy debate re. the matter.

I know that if a "foreigner" started a thread about corruption in the UK, the first primal instinct that would rise within me would be to slap him down, or dismiss it altogether......only natural really.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:05 am
I'd be willing to start one, although i can't be arsed to do the research . . . somebody give me a link . . .
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:05 am
sumac wrote:
And thus far, Whooda has ducked.


Actually, I'm at work, Susan, and this was the first opportunity I've had to post a reply. My apologies to those with stopwatches.

As far as news sources, I'm always amazed by the assumptions (many presented here) that all Americans are grinning idiots who rely soley on Fox News for their news consumption. There was an interesting piece on NPR this morning about the alleged biases of the NPR reporting staff. Anyone catch that?

As for Mr. Galloway -- his visit was reported and spun by the opposing camps. The fact that so many here are clinging to the hollow victory of his visit to Congress is revealing. Why should it merit additional DAYS of coverage?

As BiP said earlier, BOTH sides have their feet firmly planted in cement ... and that includes the left. He blames GWB, but there's enough blame to go around on that one. Witness the debacle in the Senate right now ... assuming you subscribe to the correct news source, of course.
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:06 am
While defense may be natural, they can be stifled.
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:09 am
Steve & Lord Ellpus: You know ... your grilling and presumptions here are really quite insulting. I've simply been away from my computer. I believe you've done to me what you've damned the Senate committee for doing to Mr. G.

Reality check, boys. I'm not on trial in your court.
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:11 am
Oh.

I'm going to lunch now, so try not to read too much into my upcoming absence, okay?
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:12 am
Setanta wrote:
I'd be willing to start one, although i can't be arsed to do the research . . . somebody give me a link . . .


Setanta,

Page 2 or 3 of this very thread; Mimh posted a link to that article and it has been reposted on page 8 of the Bolton thread. Let me run and get it for you ... ...

woooo, woooo, wooo, here it is,

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,1485653,00.html#article_continue
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:13 am
Whooda, I noted the word "victory" in there, though. How is it hollow?

It was such a "hollow" victory, that Coleman will have nothing to fear regarding his future career aspirations. You wish.

Coleman is now just about dead in the water, I would think.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:13 am
Thanks, Bubba, i'll go right to work . . .
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:15 am
WhoodaThunk wrote:


There was an interesting piece on NPR this morning about the alleged biases of the NPR reporting staff. Anyone catch that?



Nope, but you know, I'd really like to.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:16 am
A hollow victory to those who wish to minimize it. A gleeful victory for those who are happy to see arrogant bastards like Coleman get theirs' once in awhile.

A victory is a victory, hollow or not. Now that's right out of the Rove-bush playbook. :wink:
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:16 am
As far as I'm concerned Galloway is innocent until proven otherwise....but here's a link to a report the MEMRI site published in February regarding oil vouchers, Galloway along with many others show up on the list.

I will say Galloway took the moral high ground in the hearing, he better hope he is innocent after that.

MEMRI report
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:17 am
Lord Ellpus, you'd think that would be the case, but I don't think so. I think those who support Norm Coleman will continue to do so, and those who oppose Norm Coleman will continue to do so.

This is the kind of thing that (at the risk of getting Set's dander up again) many American voters just don't care about very much.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:18 am
JTT wrote:
WhoodaThunk wrote:


There was an interesting piece on NPR this morning about the alleged biases of the NPR reporting staff. Anyone catch that?



Nope, but you know, I'd really like to.


I heard it....part of it was that they are biased toward Palestinians.
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:22 am
I was merely curious as to whether there would be additional NBC coverage. The reactions of various factions to the speech is more the province of commentators and other thinking heads than that of a half-hour nightly news presentation.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 09:26 am
Brand X wrote:
As far as I'm concerned Galloway is innocent until proven otherwise....but here's a link to a report the MEMRI site published in February regarding oil vouchers, Galloway along with many others show up on the list.

I will say Galloway took the moral high ground in the hearing, he better hope he is innocent after that.

MEMRI report


It is worth noting that Galloway won a large settlement for defamation of character based on precisely such charges . . .
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