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George Galloway blasts the Senate

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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 05:42 am
Well, he'd need a nice coat.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 05:48 am
There is a delicious irony in quoting Howard Zinn, the alleged historian, when responding to Fd'A . . .
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 05:48 am
Francis wrote:
Right. I've been seeing a lot of American classy ladies in Paris...


From the Dick Durbin School of Non-Apologies:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Hermes-Apologized-to-Oprah-Winfrey-for-The-Racial-Incident-3621.shtml
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:05 am
Incidents like that are regrettable and just blows on fire.

Meanwhile, I remember having lunch with Gloria Gaynor (I will survive) in Paris and she telling me she had a great time...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:07 am
On dit, d'habitude <<fans the flames>>, mon vieux . . .
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:08 am
Thank you, Set...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:12 am
De rien . . . j'ai l'horreur de te gêner de qqc. comme ça, mais en même temps, il me semble que tu voudrais apprendre le mot juste . . .
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HofT
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:15 am
Whooda - Hermes sells bags, yes, but also thigh-high boots and leather trousers that look like this >

http://www.geocities.com/badruttgal/hermesPP.jpg


> and nobody much under 6 ft or over 110 pounds can hope to fit into them. They have black models, so with Oprah it was probably a problem of size, not color..
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:26 am
Set - je ne suis jamais gêné... Il m'arrive, en effet, de ne pas trouver le mot juste.

Hoft - Nice approach...
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:28 am
I have a pair of those. There's a stretch of the world-famous Veddar River (steelhead) reserved for gay fishermen.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:31 am
Damn, steelhead, that's good eatin' . . .

EDIT: Now wait a damned minute . . . how do the fishermen know which ones a them fish is the gay ones ? ! ? ! ?
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:43 am
Francis wrote:
Incidents like that are regrettable and just blows on fire.

Meanwhile, I remember having lunch with Gloria Gaynor (I will survive) in Paris and she telling me she had a great time...


I am hardly a member of the Oprah fan club and I will admit to a certain level of satisfaction anytime a member of the stratospheric jetset is denied a whim. Oprah certainly qualifies for membership in that club as her GDP probably exceeds that of France itself. The fact remains that Hermes' apology rings hollow in that Winfrey arrived with an entourage, was denied extra-hour admittance routinely given to the glitterati, and could hardly have been mistaken for the "North African" riffraff with whom Hermes claims to be troubled.

Love her or hate her, Winfrey has earned a certain level of respect in this country. Racial incidents and half-apologies such as these won't just fan the flames of resentment. They will add gallons of gasoline, and this will be seen as just another example of typical French behavior.
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:44 am
Setanta wrote:
Damn, steelhead, that's good eatin' . . .

EDIT: Now wait a damned minute . . . how do the fishermen know which ones a them fish is the gay ones ? ! ? ! ?


Rainbow trout, of course.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:47 am
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee . . .


okbye
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:50 am
Nice follow through, you two.

And on the matter of Galloway, Iraq and shmozzle...

Quote:
Anglican share vote angers Israelis

Vikram Dodd
Saturday June 25, 2005
The Guardian

Anglicans yesterday voted to urge their member churches to consider disinvesting from companies involved in Israel's occupation of Palestinian lands.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1514436,00.html
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:52 am
Quote:
Eric Hobsbawm
Saturday June 25, 2005
The Guardian

Three continuities link the global US of the cold war era with the attempt to assert world supremacy since 2001. The first is its position of international domination, outside the sphere of influence of communist regimes during the cold war, globally since the collapse of the USSR. This hegemony no longer rests on the sheer size of the US economy. Large though this is, it has declined since 1945 and its relative decline continues. It is no longer the giant of global manufacturing. The centre of the industrialised world is rapidly shifting to the eastern half of Asia. Unlike older imperialist countries, and unlike most other developed industrial countries, the US has ceased to be a net exporter of capital, or indeed the largest player in the international game of buying up or establishing firms in other countries, and the financial strength of the state rests on the continued willingness of others, mostly Asians, to maintain an otherwise intolerable fiscal deficit.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1514402,00.html
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:54 am
The Anglican story in Haaretz
Quote:
Anglican group pressures firms backing Israeli occupation

By Reuters

LONDON - A leading body for Anglican Christians urged churches on Friday to put pressure on firms that support Israel's occupation of the Palestinian territories, a measure some say could mean selling stock as a last resort.

The resolution passed unanimously by the Anglican Consultative Council, meeting in the central English city of Nottingham, also recommended the same measures for any business that supports violence against innocent Israelis.
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/592027.html
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:54 am
WhoodaThunk wrote:
They will add gallons of gasoline, and this will be seen as just another example of typical French behavior.


I "know" that's not another example of typical French behavior and I'll stop here...
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 07:17 am
Francis wrote:
WhoodaThunk wrote:
They will add gallons of gasoline, and this will be seen as just another example of typical French behavior.


I "know" that's not another example of typical French behavior and I'll stop here...


Francis: I am not engaging in bashing on this issue, but merely addressing perceptions. Half of Europe despises Americans. Based on what? Bush, the war, American pop culture? Same difference - narrow perceptions.

Hermes could have deflated a minor incident, but instead chose that lame excuse in its "apology."

The rest will be left to Winfrey's leagues of admirers ... and, of course, the pollsters.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 09:47 am
Oprah has planned to have a show on that rebuff in Paris, and you can bet your bottom dollar that Hermes sales will plummet. That lady has more influence than many politicians.
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