Re: Slappy
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:Slappy Doo Hoo wrote:After much, much thinking on this subject...
BumbleBeeBoogie.
You with me, people?
Does this mean you aren't going marry me as you promised?
BBB
Only if there's a pre-nup.
That's how I roll.
But in all seriousness...If I could erase one person, it would have to be Jim.
Asherman wrote:I'm afraid that the only way you might "create a more peaceful world" by eliminating an individual would be to takeout the ancestor of us all. Even without human beings, the world is not a peaceful place. After all, the concept "peace", as opposed to struggle for existence, is human.
I have to agree with Asherman on this one. I'm of the firm believe that viruses will do the human race in one day in the future.
Besides, even if you could remove one person, you would be changing the course of our history. Take an obvious example like Hitler. If he had never been around, millions of people would not have been killed. Perhaps some other cataclysmic event may be happened to take the place of WW2. Imagine the millions of baby boomers that would never have been born.
Who knows what our world would look like now?
I would erase the Satanic bastard who came up with the idea of automating 411.
Reyn wrote:Asherman wrote:I'm afraid that the only way you might "create a more peaceful world" by eliminating an individual would be to takeout the ancestor of us all. Even without human beings, the world is not a peaceful place. After all, the concept "peace", as opposed to struggle for existence, is human.
I have to agree with Asherman on this one. I'm of the firm believe that viruses will do the human race in one day in the future.
Besides, even if you could remove one person, you would be changing the course of our history. Take an obvious example like Hitler. If he had never been around, millions of people would not have been killed. Perhaps some other cataclysmic event may be happened to take the place of WW2. Imagine the millions of baby boomers that would never have been born.
Who knows what our world would look like now?
Reyn took the words out of my mouth. I can think of individuals that, if they had never existed, would not be missed by me. However, they did exist and were part of the overall plan of the universe. It is like a science fiction movie gone bad if anything was changed. Good or bad, for better or for worse, the present was destined by every little thing that has happened up til now. Hey, it is possible that we would never had had computers. Hmm, maybe that would not have been a bad thing
Hey, it's just a game.
Everyone knows erasing a person off the history is meaningless. But it is just a game, It present who a person don't want most.
Why take it that serious?
I think we should expand the idea to persons, instead of person. That way I could include the staffs of certain reality shows.
No one. If it wasn't one person doing all the "evil" then it would be another.
^JB^ wrote:Hey, it's just a game.
Everyone knows erasing a person off the history is meaningless. But it is just a game, It present who a person don't want most.
Why take it that serious?
Perhaps because the original post was put in the History forum and not the Humour forum. Some of us assumed that it was to be somewhat serious.
^JB^ wrote:Hey, it's just a game.
Everyone knows erasing a person off the history is meaningless. But it is just a game, It present who a person don't want most.
Why take it that serious?
Reyn wrote:Perhaps because the original post was put in the History forum and not the Humour forum. Some of us assumed that it was to be somewhat serious.
Once again, I have to agree with Reyn on this one. If it is a "game" and not to be taken seriously, it should be in the Humour Forum.
Since it is in History, one would expect a serious discussion on historical events and those things related to it.
There was a PBS history of science series called, "connections." when the host -- one of those intellectually exciting, hyper-active Brits that are so charismatic -- listed all the inventions that stem from needs of monks in monasteries, I thought a wonderful sci-fi novel can be written about the world in which the mission of Jesus Christ failed. Rather than Christianity as a big time, universal religion, the book would have it as the small time, radical Jewish sect it was originally.
That said, I tend to agree with asher on the Abrahamic religions.
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I can not finger Abraham Lincoln for the South's death wish, that is, to be a Christian nation. I think we have to lay the blame at the feet of the Founding Fathers for that one: the seeds of division were sown at the birth of the nation.
BTW, ebrown, by Christianity, do you include the rattle snake handlers of the southern mountains? Look up a woman name Kate (maybe she spells it Cate) Campbell, a southern song writer, who is a voice of America, has written a powerful song about a man who was charged and convicted of domestic violence for forcing his wife to pick up a rattler.
Plain,
I am not sure if I understand why hyou ask that question.
Lincoln's mistake was not letting the Confederate states go. They could have decided what being a Christian nation would mean to themselves.
I am not saying that Lincoln is responsible for the deep divisions in the United States. He is responsible for keeping the deeply divided people together by force.
That is what we are still paying for.
Nope, the "deep divisions" you see are the fault of the Founding Fathers and they are being re-interpretted, re-inforced and forced down our throats by the Neo-Cons.
BTW, the mawkish Christianity of the far right is hardly religious. What about Liberation Theology? What about the activism of people like the Berrigan Brothers during the 1960s? THAT'S RELIGIOUS.
You know what I think is wrong with America? New Jersey did not remain a Scandinavian settlement. The Spaniards gave up Florida. The French sold their interests in this continent. We should have been a polyglot group of small nations. There would never have been the KKK in the South!
Bush son.
Regards.
Xavier
ebrown_p wrote:Lincoln's goal and main accomplishment was to keep people who didn't want to be part of the United States from leaving at the cost of tens of thousands of lives.
The result was a deeply divided Union, and these divisions still plague us today.
Were it not for this mistake, the Confederate states could have the Christian nation they still are longing for, and the United States could build a secular Democracy with liberty and justice for all.
The problems we are wrestling with now-- seperation of church and state, stem cell research, the controversy of teaching science in schools-- would be easy to resolve had the Confederate succession succeeded.
I bet we would have avoided the current mess in Iraq had we been able to avoid the Civil war.
We'll I'd be lying if I said that I haven't dreamt of California succeding from the states, but overall, I think it is not a smart idea to ask for such a drastic change in modern society. The impact could be tremendous. Are we suffering injustices and is our social system riddled with tumors? Certainly. However, progress doesn't come without a price. Generally speaking, if you compare modern day America with any past point in American history you will see that our society has advanced, as has the world. We are in a state of creeping, crawling, nail scratching, progress. However, I am scared of a few things. Looking back at the last ten years I would say we are in the social progression equivalant of a standstill. Can I really say that we are better off, socially, than we were ten years ago ('95)? The only thing I can really compare the current social state to is (*shudder*) the 80s.
Okay, I just destroyed my own point.
i wish I could erase my former husband, but history will never know him.
pl- you and me both.
if i could erase someone, it would be the person who was labled 'jesus' who ever he was. If he was a group of people, then they should all be erased.
Shewolf -- I thought an interesting novel might begin in a world where the mission of Jesus had failed and his religion remained an obscure Jewish sect that died out in the first century.
that is an interesting idea!!
how would the world have progressed? Would religion, no matter what it was, have dominated in another way? Be important at ALL?
interesting thought...
