How (and when) will the Government Shutdown end?

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He will literally be siphoning money off from the military

Through no fault of his own.

That's VERY debatable.

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That's VERY debatable.

And everyday more illegals sneak in. Why don't they just admit they wish to destroy this country?

A federal judge declined to stop the Trump administration from requiring government employees to work without pay during the shutdown, rejecting the arguments of two federal unions and other individual federal employees.

In a hearing Tuesday, District Judge Richard J. Leon refused to grant temporary restraining orders requested the National Treasury Employees Union, the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, and a group of individual federal employees. The unions argued that the government could not force employees deemed “essential” to work without pay during the shutdown.

Lean declined to grant the orders, saying they would “create chaos and confusion” in an already fraught environment.

“It’s hard not to empathize with the plaintiffs,” Leon said, adding that “the judiciary is not, and will not, be leverage in the internal struggle between the branches of government.”

A federal judge declined to stop the Trump administration from requiring government employees to work without pay during the shutdown, rejecting the arguments of two federal unions and other individual federal employees.

On August 5, following the PATCO workers' refusal to return to work, Reagan fired the 11,345 striking air traffic controllers who had ignored the order, and banned them from federal service for life. ... PATCO was decertified by the Federal Labor Relations Authority on October 22, 1981.

The question is how it will end, I am asking for political analysis beyond the normal name-calling and mud throwing.

McConnell is a big boy. He needs to pull on his trousers, stand up and march into the Oval Office and make clear to the President, that he must let this go. Accept that at present he is only making matters worse for himself, not just the millions of the nation. Trump only seems to understand what he wants and what will make him look bad. Put together an imagery of how bad, he'll start to fold.
Tell him the wall will be negotiated for the next budget.

One side sincerely believes that the border wall is immoral, the other side believes it is necessary for our security.

I want to ask your opinion Coldjoint...

Some conservatives are saying it is dangerous to give a president the ability to declare a national emergency to bypass congress in a controversial political issue. If Trump declares a national emergency for a wall, a future president might do the same for gun control, or climate change.

Do you see any validity to this worry? (I am asking about a future president... if you start talking about presidents I will ignore it as partisan blather).

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The question is how it will end, I am asking for political analysis beyond the normal name-calling and mud throwing.

I really have no idea, but I am pretty sure that the left will not get DACA unless Trump also gets his wall.

One side sincerely believes that the border wall is immoral,

Democracy is a form of representative government. Voters in Kansas vote for representatives who are pro-life. Voters in Massachusetts vote for representatives who are pro-choice. Which of these voters are "right" about abortion is irrelevant (if there even is an absolute right and wrong). Voters don't elect politicians who are going to defy them... why would they? I vote for people who agree with me on the issues, and I vote for people who will stand firm.

Mitch McConnell isn't even allowing a vote in the Senate on re-opening the government. His constituents would be angry at him if he did.

I agree with McConnell's actions and I vehemently oppose Pelosi's actions.

Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.

Problems start from the top and have to get solved from the top. The President is the leader and he's got to get everybody in the room and he HAS to lead.

Peolosi has zero constitutional responsibility to go along with the president.