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Any Suggestions on What Can Be Winning [Strategy] For Democrats?

 
 
thack45
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2018 09:41 pm
@coldjoint,
I'm not sure what you're looking for. Here was your post..
coldjoint wrote:
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America's future is in the services sector,


We have been a service based economy for quite a while, where have you been?


You were using a snip from a quote I posted, from Peter Navarro..
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We on Team Trump are astonished by the argument that America's future is in the services sector, and Americans don't want 'dirty' jobs in steel furnaces. ... So to the financiers on Wall Street who look down their noses at manufacturing jobs ... you should get out more often to the Heartland and see what Main Street and Trump country really look like


¯\_(ツ)_/¯
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2018 10:52 pm
@thack45,
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You were using a snip from a quote I posted, from Peter Navarro..


OK. Is there an apology I need to make?
thack45
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2018 11:45 am
@coldjoint,
Lol not at all. In fact I apologise for for making a deal about such a trivial thing.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2018 11:46 am
@thack45,
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Lol not at all. In fact I apologise for for making a deal about such a trivial thing.

No problem then Very Happy
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2018 01:17 pm
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Dinesh D'Souza mops the floor with Saul Alinsky's son in C-SPAN debate

Like Goebbels did the opposition is accused of being what the accusers actually are. This debate will show you. And the unsavory, to say the least, techniques and how they came about. I doubt if any Trump haters will sit through, but I thought I would try.

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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 02:17 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
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In my opinion, a winning strategy is to concentrate on most of Bernie's points during the last election, bread and butter issues which all Americans face in their daily lives and leave off with all that nonsense about "establishment" which brings to mind nothing but those in the sixties who were going on about the establishment. Stick to what democrats care and know about the most, bread and butter issues for working families. Just my opinion.

I believe revelette's views, quoted above, are widely held among Democrats, and confirm the leftward shifting focus of the Democrat party. This is also evidenced in the new leadership of the DNC, and as well, by the relatively extremely left wing focus of the victors in recent Democrat Primary elections. Much of the stuff these newcomers advocate is a bit radical even for Bernie Sanders Supporters.

Sanders certainly attracted a surprisingly large cadre of motivated Democrat voters in the last primary. My opinion is that this was enhanced by growing negative impressions of the designated "winner", Hillary. Clinton fatigue was an unexpected boost to the planned pro forma Sanders opposition in that primary. Now she's gone, but we are seeing a renewed continuation, and possible expansion, of this trend.

Overall my strong impression is that all this significantly reduces the prospects for electoral success for Democrats in coming elections.
Blickers
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 02:44 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote georgeob1:
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Overall my strong impression is that all this significantly reduces the prospects for electoral success for Democrats in coming elections.
On the contrary, it significantly increases Democratic chances of victory in 2018 and beyond.

For instance, take minimum wage. In 2016 it was $7.25 an hour. The Democrats were split between the progressive Democrats who wanted to raise it to $15 and hour and the mainstream ones who wanted to raise it to $12. On the other hand, the Republicans were split between the mainstream Republicans who wanted to keep it at $7.25 an hour and those who wanted to do away with it completely-if the boss can get someone desperate enough to work for 50¢ an hour, that's great.

It's mostly younger people who get paid minimum, and surprise, it's mostly Democratic the way younger people vote. That's because for younger voters, the days when they had a minimum wage job are relatively fresh in their minds. This brings the younger voters into the Democratic party from the start. As time goes on, the Republicans become fewer and fewer, and the Democrats become more and more numerous.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 02:54 pm
@Blickers,
I expressed my assessment of the situation and you, yours.

In a time of fast rising employment, and now rising wages, together with very significant recent increases in job opportunities for young people, college graduates and others, I believe the arguments you offered concerning a new Federal minimum wage will have relatively little effect and very little interest among young people finding active employment (at generally much more than the minimum wage) in a fast growing economy.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 03:16 pm
@Blickers,
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Democrats become more and more numerous.

A wall will cut down on Democrats. I think it is going to happen.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 03:19 pm
@revelette1,
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In my opinion, a winning strategy is to concentrate on most of Bernie's points during the last election, bread and butter issues which all Americans face in their daily lives and leave off with all that nonsense about "establishment" which brings to mind nothing but those in the sixties who were going on about the establishment. Stick to what democrats care and know about the most, bread and butter issues for working families. Just my opinion.

I agree with you.
In my opinion, this is truly a winning strategy.Very Happy
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 03:37 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
This brings the younger voters into the Democratic party from the start. As time goes on, the Republicans become fewer and fewer, and the Democrats become more and more numerous.


it's going to be interesting to see what the measurable changes in American demographics will have. is this the last gasp for old white people in the US?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 03:42 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
In my opinion, a winning strategy is to concentrate on most of Bernie's points during the last election, bread and butter issues which all Americans face in their daily lives


it will be interesting to see how the new trade war/s and tariffs will play into all of this. are average voting people in the US going to feel the tariffs / understand where they came from?
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 03:45 pm
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:

Quote:
In my opinion, a winning strategy is to concentrate on most of Bernie's points during the last election, bread and butter issues which all Americans face in their daily lives and leave off with all that nonsense about "establishment" which brings to mind nothing but those in the sixties who were going on about the establishment. Stick to what democrats care and know about the most, bread and butter issues for working families. Just my opinion.

I agree with you.
In my opinion, this is truly a winning strategy.Very Happy



In view of current levels of economic growth, consumer confidence and the growth in total employment as well as the solid prospects for the continuation of these favorable trends, I believe Democrats would have a very hard time arguing for an expansion of such programs, particularly given there demonstrably adverse effects on the economy. They certainly couldn't pass such legislation in the current Congress and their prospects for a significant improve3ment in their situation don't look very good at all to me.

I believe revelette's program cited above would have little voter appeal in the current economic climate, and their prospects for implementing such a program are remote at best. I'll agree it certainly appeals to the doctrinaire pseudo socialists in their midst, but not to our electorate as a whole.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 03:46 pm
@ehBeth,
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are average voting people

The Democrats have no idea who those people are. I think they call them Nazis.
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Used2bgood
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:27 pm
@Real Music,
Back off and let the sane republicans save this democracy from the idiots.

Any of you working answer this ..........
Just who is going to pay for all of this 'free' and expanded medicare?
Who is going to pay for all of these 'free' meals for the unemployed?
Who is going to pay for the medical care of all of these 'immigrants' that we are letting into this country?
Who is going to pay for all of the free or subsidized housing?

One answer ................ you the working class!

And the Democrats are going to insure that you do, by acting on the little known part of the 'Obama Care' enactment that has given them the power to attach any and or all of your assets to accomplish it!!

How are you going to stop it? Especially with the gun control that they want, and no guns to protect yourselves!

The coolaid is in front of you, (Johnstown, South Africa for those not in the know) are you going to continue to drink it ..........................?

GOD help us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Real Music
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:41 pm
@Used2bgood,
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Any of you working answer this ..........
Just who is going to pay for all of this 'free' and expanded medicare?
Who is going to pay for all of these 'free' meals for the unemployed?
Who is going to pay for the medical care of all of these 'immigrants' that we are letting into this country?
Who is going to pay for all of the free or subsidized housing?

For starters, repeal that massive tax cut that the republicans just gave away to the wealthy.
I can think of a lot of good that can be done with that massive amount of money.
That's a ton of money. Very Happy
Used2bgood
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:45 pm
@Real Music,
Raising taxes on the wealthy ...... Let's see how that is working out. Oh ya, industry has moved over seas and the working class is .... well not working!

Health care under Democrates ............... Lets see, my medicare (that I have paid for) has been renamed as a entitlement and put into the general fund as the Ponsi scheme that the Democrates now force the working person into paying, then use as they see fit and make us feel that they are really looking out for us when they authorize a booster payment to it to keep it afloat. What happens to all of the killed soldiers medicare payments anyway? New drapes on airforce one?
By the way, my medicare coverages have NOT been keeping up with the inflation of our government! And the, forced down our throats, national health insurance has increased my insurance costs and I now have to settle for less coverage because I'm now paying for those not working, insurance ...........

Just a side note, when we all stop working because we relize it is better for us as an individual to not work, ........... who then is going to pay for us all? Perhaps the governments' inturment camps of forced labor?????
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:45 pm
@Real Music,
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For starters, repeal that massive tax cut that the republicans just gave away to the wealthy.

A massive amount of Americans have more cash.
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I can think of a lot of good that can be done with that massive amount of money.

No you can't, someone will do that thinking for you.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:48 pm
@Used2bgood,
What planet did you say you were from?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:55 pm
@Real Music,
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What planet did you say you were from?

Instead of asking him a question in your desperation to avoid debate try disputing what he said.
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