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nimh, please understand that the attitude of this administration is not the attitude of the FEELING majority of Americans. We are not the cowboy, arrogant, uncaring, go to war at the drop of a hat, constantly drawing lines in the sand type that Bush and his ilk represent.

But, I do realize it will take many years to mop up the bilge that this "take no prisoners" administration is mucking throughout this land and the world!

Please bear with us!!!!!!!1

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About 100 of the upper-middle class yuppies in my town, drank Starbuck's coffee and waved signs in the area. The rest of us, not yuppies, had to go to work to pay the taxes.

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I work, I pay taxes, I'm not upper-middle class, I wave signs, I'm offended, I don't live in your town, I think!

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I think it would be almost impossible to substantiate either side of that argument.

No one is asking PD to "substantiate" anything, at least not in the way you seem to mean it. I am simply pointing out that he, like others here, has a habit of throwing around numbers and statistics that are not true. He complains that Bush is ignoring the majority of Americans, then refuses to step up and offer a single source that supports his notion that he is in the majority.

Is your position that a false statement made here should go unchallenged? If I wrote that 99% of Americans want war without any stipulations, how long do you think that statement would go unchallenged? Do you think PD would not be at the forefront of those demanding I show my source or retract the statement?

This is not about personalities. It is about having some standards for the discussions we have here, and I am asking nothing of PD or anyone else that I do not do myself.

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Max, how come WE only feel and can't think or know - with all due respect?

BillW wrote:

nimh, please understand that the attitude of this administration is not the attitude of the FEELING majority of Americans....

ROFLMAO! I hope you were having a little fun with us here.

Oh, and nimh, though some of the feelers in America refuse to accept this, their point of view is not the majority here. But I hope you will still take solace that our feeling minority are with you.

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Speaking of feelings - I feel a bit ticked because the purpose in opening this thread was to share peace rally information and the ones like tres have been allowed to highjack it and derail it. There must be a dozen threads on which to argue the points they are arguing, but they have to lay it out here. Well, congratulations, guys. You have succeeded.

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edgar, I live in the arm pit of the extreme right wing movement - a peace rally here would probably be gassed amid a crowd of well wishers. Cowboy, arrogant mentality is tought to be the going thing. However, I will still be screaming from the towers and making calls on Wednesday!

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An Italian friend just told me that people blocked the the railway near Vincenca,Tuscany and so delayed trains bringing material to Camp Darby. He said it was peaceful, no conflicts with the police.
He told me that there are more protests of this kind planned.
I can't provide a newslink- maybe later there might something in the media.

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Edgar: Your beef is with the moderators, not us contributors.

I thought one of the benefits of having all of that high priced talent was that they would arrange posts and move them to keep a thread on point.

Somebody want to nudge blatham, I think he is dozing.

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I was thinking about this and wanted to get it out into the open a bit.

Like it or not the decision on whether or not Bush gets his war will be made in the UN, shouldn't there be an effort to contact the UN Security Council countries and urge THEM to oppose war and support the inspections?

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Attending these rallies ... has a LOT to do with the ordinary, run of the mill people getting a chance to say what they think about a likely war...

Funny, but I and the majority of Americans seem to be able to voice our opinions without thronging the streets and patting each other on the back. Of course you are more than welcome to do so, but don't think it makes your opinion worth any more than mine.

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edgarblythe wrote:

Speaking of feelings - I feel a bit ticked because the purpose in opening this thread was to share peace rally information and the ones like tres have been allowed to highjack it and derail it. There must be a dozen threads on which to argue the points they are arguing, but they have to lay it out here. Well, congratulations, guys. You have succeeded.

Whoa there mister. If any of my comments are off topic, they were in direct response to someone else who had already strayed away from the topic. If you have complaints that this discussion has gotten off topic, your beef is with others. I am inclined to agree that we should stay on topic, but if others are going to go astray please don't fault those who simply respond to the comments they make. (Of course, we both know you are complaining about me rather than others because of your bias.)

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"This is not about personalities. It is about having some standards for the discussions we have here..." Uh huh... sure, Tres. I believe you... Honest...

BillW, your above posts are right on target!

I'm sad to report that our local paper, good in many ways but largely the production of a grimly sunny Chamber of Commerce, didn't report the numbers of peace marchers around the local county courthouse. They did put a picture of some of the marchers on the front page. Friends in the liberal metropolis well to the left of here, people who know this place, were pretty amazed... It IS surprising to see the universality of the peace movement, both geographically and socially -- indeed it is.

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"This is not about personalities. It is about having some standards for the discussions we have here..." Uh huh... sure, Tres. I believe you... Honest...

Perhaps I was not clear enough. For me this is not about personalities. I recognize that for you and several others it is about little else.

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Just so I have it clear in my head, edgar.

What you are proposing is that protesters should not have to put up with people who have a differing opinion than they do....

Please tell me that I am not the only one here who finds this just the least bit odd...

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spin machine in fast gear, it slices, it dices and when its through you have no idea what came out - but it serves the purpose!

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Looking at your last post, Bill, I can now see why you have so many.

Perhaps a greater focus on quality, rather than quantity would serve the forum well.

I don't know, it is just an idea.

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Gee, thanks - then again, quality is there - don't need to be verbose to be good. Then, a good spin has to - well heck, you get the drift.

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Sorry for my obtuseness, but to what spin machine are you referring?

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People in my town are quite humble: they mean their own business and do not try to tell to Mr. Bush what to do. They consider this right being reserved to American citizens and to no one else. Therefore, there are neither anti-war, nor pro-war rallies in the Israeli town of Lod.

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