Why I left the Democratic Party

@nimh,

I understand what you are saying. However I was speaking more to those who chose to either go third party or sit out the vote, which had the same affect as if they voted for Trump. The 2016 year Presidential election was just too important to be used to make statements, the effects will be felt for decades, those judges who have already been appointed will be there for a lifetime.

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@ehBeth,

You are quicker than me. I ramble on too much.

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@revelette1,

This is when the ‘investigation’ portion of the Federal Bureau of Investigation is supposed to come into play.

They had what they needed to find him.

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I reject the notion that voting third party is voting for Trump. A vote is something you must earn. Neither candidate earned it.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

To get an edge, you have to be the party who can pick and confirm the judges so the laws can be changed.

the Republicans definitely understand this

it's puzzling why so many other Americans can't seem to get their head around this

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@revelette1,

From the horse’s mouth:

http://www.wyff4.com/article/fbi-protocols-were-not-followed-after-tip-called-in-on-florida-shooter/18210238

The FBI said it received a tip just after the new year warning about the man accused of killing 17 people this week at a Florida high school, but "protocols were not followed for the information received."

In a statement Friday, the FBI said the tipster on Jan. 5 called its Public Access Line and "provided information about Cruz's gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting."

The FBI said the information was not provided to the bureau's Miami Field Office and no further investigation was conducted. It is investigating why the information wasn't used further.

"We have spoken with victims and families, and deeply regret the additional pain this causes all those affected by this horrible tragedy," FBI Director Christopher Wray said.

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They have their priorities.

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@camlok,

The recent report that the FBI fumbled a called-in tip is much more worrying than the IP thing. They had someone who actually claimed to know who and what. They could have at least tried to do something with that.

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I don’t hold out much hope that their investigation into the failure of their investigation will be worth the money we pay for it.

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@ehBeth,

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The recent report that the FBI fumbled a called-in tip is much more worrying than the IP thing.

Didn't you fumble the IP thing? Rushing to get out another headline without thinking about what it said.

What is worrying? Do any of you really care, or is this just another event to gossip about?

History, I'm afraid, shows that there is going to be an increase, not a decline.

It could have been stopped long before the new year, before the FBI got the new tip.

Is the **** off the fan going to hit YouTube too?

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@ehBeth,

I wonder how many of these called-in tips the FBI gets? And I wonder how many they've followed up on — and how many planned crimes have been foiled? I hope the right-wingers don't start using this as more fuel for their campaign to discredit the Bureau because it would be a classic way for them to cover their own culpability.

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@camlok,

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@Lash,

It’s quite a masterful stroke of Clintonspeak for Wray to say, paraphrasing, ‘hope this detail doesn’t add to the families’ horror’.

It CAUSED the families’ horror.

Please let them class action sue. The FBI needs to operate with more accountability. Heads should roll.

Let the CIA watch and learn.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

I hope the right-wingers don't start using this as more fuel for their campaign to discredit the Bureau because it would be a classic way for them to cover their own culpability.

it's already happening in this thread

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@hightor,

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because it would be a classic way for them to cover their own culpability.

Please, hightor, stop with the bleating and think. What you are blaming the right wing for is, and has been for forever, the heart and soul of the USA.

I use 'heart and soul' figuratively here.

This is a country that is founded on violence, terrorism, genocide, illegal invasions, war crimes, theft of others wealth - 93% of the US's years as a "country" spent at war.

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@ehBeth,

Stop with the finger pointing. The Dems have always been pretty much equals in USA savagery.

I don't see any of the "liberals" who post here expressing much sorrow, grief, pain, anger, ... for all the innocents that have been slaughtered by both war criminal Dems and Repugs.

Said as this is for the families, it doesn't amount to a tiny hill of beans compared to Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, ..., all of which, I must remind you happened because of the monstrous lies of Bush et al vis a vis the events of September 11, 2001.

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@camlok,

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What you are blaming the right wing for is, and has been for forever, the heart and soul of the USA.

Actually the animosity of the political right toward this particular organization has definitely not been around forever.

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@hightor,

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Actually the animosity of the political right toward this particular organization has definitely not been around forever.

What "particular organization" do you have in mind?

You avoided just how violent US society is and always has been.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

However I was speaking more to those who chose to either go third party or sit out the vote, which had the same affect as if they voted for Trump. The 2016 year Presidential election was just too important to be used to make statements, the effects will be felt for decades, those judges who have already been appointed will be there for a lifetime.

maggieNYT

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See No. 46 in this indictment - big aspect of the Russian meddling was encouraging voting for a third party candidate, such as Stein. Trump campaign advisers also talked up Stein frequently.

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@edgarblythe,

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I reject the notion that voting third party is voting for Trump. A vote is something you must earn. Neither candidate earned it.

Ideally.

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@camlok,

camlok wrote:

Stop with the finger pointing.

Boushie

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