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Why I left the Democratic Party

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 11:32 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
The guy is a Jewish intellectual; he can recognize a nazi when he sees one.

WHOA! Yes, Trump is a racial bigot, ignorant, xenophobe, scams people, and lies all the time. Nazi? No; Trump is just white trash who has all the wrong qualities to be president of any organization or country. How many women came forward to accuse Trump of sexual harassment? That wasn't enough to destroy him. He still has about 40% of Americans who supports this creep. Make America great again? Whose kidding who? "Make America an embarrassment." That's Trump in a nutshell.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 12:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Crypto nazi then. The jury is still out on Trump. History will tell, but electing him or helping elect him at the biggest job in the world looks like reckless political whatthefuckism. Bernie could not sleep at night if he thought he was responsible in any way shape or form for these 4 years of political russian roulette.

It could be that Marx was right, on history repeating itself: first the tragedy, then the farce. Trump may be a farcical version of Mussolini, an incompetent, ridicule joke of a fascist. He certainly looks like one so far.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 12:13 pm
@Olivier5,
Actually, you're free to call Trump whatever you wish, and I would agree. I just thought that Nazi meant killing people for being a Jew, Polish, Gypsy or LGBTQ.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 12:14 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

What I DON'T get is the lack of respect for Bernie Sanders. As soon as he conceded, you guys threw him away like a old sock.


Right?

“Bernie is the best, most smartest, most noble, knows the best things to do for our country, most trustworthy, I’d let him babysit my child and perform my colonoscopy.......until the convention, then he and his message can not be trusted. He’s a liar and bought and paid for shill.”
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revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 12:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
"Make America an embarrassment." That's Trump in a nutshell.


That is the most fitting line made out of his slogan I have read/heard yet.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 01:02 pm
Andy Borowitz is doing a Make America Not Embarrassing Again tour.
revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 02:11 pm
@edgarblythe,
Oh, Embarrassed Well it fits. I rarely get jokes, so I don't follow political satire? Is that how you would characterize what he does?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 02:50 pm
@revelette1,
He does a daily political humor column.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 03:37 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
What I DON'T get is the lack of respect for Bernie Sanders. As soon as he conceded, you guys threw him away like a old sock.

You should have seen the Democrats back in 2000.

Before the primaries, they were denouncing Congressional Republicans as a bunch of extremists, and hailing Bush as some great moderate who would bring sanity back to the Republican Party.

Then the moment Bush became the front-runner, he became a horrible extremist and John McCain was the great hero of reason and moderation.

Then the moment John McCain was no longer running for the nomination, he was stripped of his sainthood and became just another extremist Republican.

It was pretty funny the way all the Democrats in the country kept instantly changing their views in lockstep over and over again.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 03:39 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Bernie just understood the stakes better than you did. The guy is a Jewish intellectual; he can recognize a nazi when he sees one.

Sanders was the one who made false accusations against Israel and called on people to turn against Israel for those false accusations.

The only Nazi here is Sanders himself.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 09:28 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Very important for Dems to back progressives if they want to beat Trump.
Yes, I agree that it is very important for Dems to back progressives if they want to beat Trump.
I also believe that the Dems need to back more charismatic and exciting candidates to beat Trump.
I believe democrats should be running on FDR New Deal principles.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 09:34 pm
I've never written anything good about Bush, from the day I first knew about him beyond now. That goes back to when his Daddy was pres.

I didn't lose faith in Bernie when he backed Hillary, because I knew he had some sort of reasoning I didn't understand. Nothing could convince me to vote for either major candidate in 2016.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 11:01 pm
@Real Music,
I don’t believe there’s any reason to follow ‘charismatic’ people, but I’d mortgage the house on somebody honest with a reasonable plan.
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2018 11:03 pm
@edgarblythe,
❤️ You’re an American hero. Never forget it.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2018 06:47 pm
Bernie Sanders endorses Rich Lazer for Congress.
Updated: May 12, 2018


Quote:
Democrat Rich Lazer, a congressional candidate in Pennsylvania’s crowded Fifth District primary, just got a big last-minute endorsement: Sen. Bernie Sanders.

“Rich believes, as I do, that health care is a right, that free public education should extend through college, and that solving the student debt crisis is an urgent necessity,” said Sanders in a statement. “Rich will be a consistent voice for a bold, progressive agenda and will fight to create a government and an economy that works for us, not just wealthy corporate interests.”

Lazer supports a $15 minimum wage, Medicare-for-All and free college, all issues that Sanders campaigned on during his 2016 presidential run.

“This is an honor for me,” said Lazer, the former deputy mayor of labor under Mayor Kenney. “I think we see things through the same lens … how things should be working for working families.”

The Fifth District is largely based in Delaware County, but also includes parts of Philadelphia and Montgomery County.

Lazer has won the support of several labor unions, and one of his biggest backers is John “Johnny Doc” Dougherty, the powerful and controversial leader of the city’s electricians union. A super PAC for Lazer was launched by Dougherty.

The Middle Class PAC has spent nearly $1 million on pro-Lazer TV advertising that will air through Monday, according to a source familiar with ad buys in the area. That dwarfs the amount of money that any individual campaign has spent broadcasting TV spots. Ballard Spahr attorney Mary Gay Scanlon has paid about $515,000 for TV advertising, while former U.S. assistant attorney Ashley Lunkenheimer has spent about $498,000.

Despite that big money, Lazer has trailed in recent polls conducted on behalf of other campaigns. Notably, Sanders’ endorsement appears to come too late for the super PAC to air TV ads promoting it.

Could Sanders’ endorsement of Lazer benefit him if he runs for president again in 2020? Dougherty’s union, which endorsed Hillary Clinton in the 2016 primary, is one of the most influential campaign spenders in Pennsylvania. Former Gov. Ed Rendell, a longtime supporter of Clinton, is backing Scanlon, who has polled in first in campaign surveys.

Dougherty spokesman Frank Keel said he’s the one who clinched the deal for Lazer.

“John made the endorsement happen,” said Keel. “He’s admired Sen. Sanders for years and met him on several occasions. John had recently reached out to him about the Fifth Congressional race and Rich’s candidacy. John and the senator spoke earlier today for a half hour or so about Rich’s progressive politics and years of experience. Sen. Sanders, who’d already done some homework on Rich, clearly liked what he’d heard and agreed to do the endorsement.”

Keel added that “this is a huge boost for Rich’s candidacy in these final days before the election.”

In a phone interview, Dougherty was less braggadocious. He said the endorsement was the result of “Rich Lazer’s stellar performance” in the campaign and the fact that Lazer helped further “Mayor Kenney’s progressive agenda” as Kenney’s former deputy mayor of labor.

Dougherty also said that Ed Mooney, the Philadelphia-based vice president of the Communications Workers of America District 213, “made the contact.”

The communication workers union supported Sanders in the 2016 primary.

Molly Sheehan, one of Lazer’s Democratic opponents in the 10-person primary for Pennsylvania’s Fifth District, said she is surprised by Sanders’ endorsement. Two local chapters of Our Revolution, an organization created out of Sanders’ presidential campaign, are backing her.

“This decision was about top-down alliances of old-school political leaders. It wasn’t about where the activists are in our movement,” she said. “Rich and I would vote similarly on a lot of issues, but he’s backed by a super PAC … his power emanates from loopholes that were created by the flawed Citizens United Supreme Court decision we’re all running against.”

Dougherty has said in the past that his union funds super PACs because he wants “working-class people to have the same tools that the rich people have.”

The primary is May 15th.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/bernie-sanders-endorses-fifth-congress-district-pennsylvania-20180511.html
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Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2018 07:21 pm
Black, Female and Running for Governor:
Can She Win in the South?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/black-female-and-running-for-governor-can-she-win-in-the-south/ar-AAxw6ey?ocid=UE13DHP
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Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2018 07:42 pm
Bernie Sanders Says ‘Trump’s Agenda Is Dead’
if Democrats Win Midterms


Quote:
Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, vowing to play an influential role in the 2018 midterm elections, was blunt on Friday about the stakes for the Democratic Party.

“If Democrats control either the House or the Senate, Trump’s agenda is dead,” Mr. Sanders said during a conversation with New York Times reporters and editors.

At this critical moment ahead of hundreds of House and Senate primaries, Mr. Sanders also argued that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and other national party organizations are not doing enough to support liberal grass-roots candidates who are running against Mr. Trump and backing a progressive agenda.

“The establishment Democrats are still, I think, looking toward candidates who can self-fund,” said Mr. Sanders, a progressive independent who had enormous success raising about $230 million in mostly small-dollar and online donations during his 2016 presidential bid.

National Democrats “still have a tendency to believe that more conservative candidates are better positioned to win,” he added. Mr. Sanders argued that ideas like “Medicare for All” and a higher minimum wage, which he championed in 2016, are increasingly popular and helpful to Democratic candidates.

Mr. Sanders said he plans to make endorsements in the midterms, but that he is still deciding where he can be most effective.

In the New York governor’s race, in which Cynthia Nixon, the progressive activist and former “Sex and the City” star, is challenging Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo in the Democratic primary, Mr. Sanders declined to make an endorsement when asked. Ms. Nixon has positioned herself as more of a populist, criticizing Mr. Cuomo for his reliance on large donors.

“Governor Cuomo has a strong record, he has done some very good things, obviously there are areas where I disagree with him,” Mr. Sanders said. “Cynthia seems to be generating a lot of grass-roots enthusiasm running on a progressive platform.”

Asked if he could envision endorsing Mr. Cuomo over Ms. Nixon, Mr. Sanders reiterated that he was not making any endorsements on Friday.

The political stances of Mr. Sanders and Mr. Cuomo became a point of debate this past week when a spokeswoman for Mr. Cuomo said the two politicians were “in lockstep.”

Asked about that comment, Mr. Sanders replied, “My staff said something differently,” referring to a vulgarity posted on Twitter by one of his advisers about the topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/20/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democrats-midterms.html
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2018 07:56 pm
I had to look up the Sanders’ spokesman statement about Cuomo...

ALBANY — A senior adviser to Sen. Bernie Sanders Tuesday shot back at Gov. Cuomo's campaign for saying the two political leaders are in "lock step."
"The idea that Andrew Cuomo and Bernie Sanders are lock step on policy is 100% Grade A American bulls---," Ari Rabin-Havt tweeted Monday.
———————————

Keeping it real.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2018 07:57 pm
@Lash,
Cuomo is not my kind of politician at all.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2018 03:39 am
Opinion piece by Anthony Zurcher. Much more at link including a list of policy objectives.

Quote:
One of the ongoing criticisms of Democrats since Barack Obama moved out of the White House is that the party has been defined by what it opposes, instead of what it wants to do.

They're not Donald Trump. They're against travel bans, border walls, trade wars, financial and environmental deregulation, corporate tax cuts and repeal of the Obamacare health insurance system.

But what are they for? What are their ideas?

Those are the kind of questions the speakers at the Center for American Progress' "Ideas Conference" held in a Washington hotel were tasked with answering.

A long list of Democratic politicians - some up for re-election in the mid-term contests this year; others possibly angling for the Democratic 2020 presidential nomination - took the stage in panels and set-piece speeches. Many offered variations on the a-word - "alternatives".

"We're not going to win if we spend all our time bemoaning that he's there," Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar said of Mr Trump's White House occupancy. "He's there. And we have to offer an alternative.

"People ask how come you're not offering alternatives," Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown said at the conference. "And I say we are."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44164340
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