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Why I left the Democratic Party

 
 
maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2018 10:31 pm
@Lash,
Which ones? Specifically.
revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 06:38 am
@maporsche,
Good luck with that.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 06:48 am
I’ve mentioned several of them. You weren’t paying attention? So now, you think I should list them here as an assignment for your pleasure?

Funny that you think I would or should.

Self-entitled, much?

The real question is why you’re pretending you haven’t seen me talk about them.
revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 06:49 am
Yesterday I was speaking of the Arizona race. Today I read the following. I hope somebody sues or something can be done if on election day chaos ensues and a bunch of eligible voters end not being able to vote.

Quote:
140,000 Arizona residents are missing voter ID cards for today’s special election

PHOENIX, ARIZONA — As residents of Arizona’s eighth congressional district cast ballots in a special election to replace former Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) in Congress, roughly 140,000 of them may be unaware they are eligible to vote because they did not receive the ID card the county is required to send them after they register.

According to the Arizona Republic, Maricopa County officials have not sent all voters the cards they can use to cast a ballot under Arizona’s voter ID law because of an issue with the company used to print the materials. The paper reports that just 60,000 ID cards have been mailed to people who recently registered or changed their registration, while about 140,000 have not been sent.

Adrian Fontes, the county recorder who oversees elections in Maricopa County, told ThinkProgress on Monday that he’s not concerned with what he sees as a “little hiccup in printing.”

“It’s not that big of an impact on voters because we have redundancies in our system,” said Fontes, a Democrat who took office in 2016 after he campaigned on a promise to fight voter suppression and expand the right to vote in a county notorious for voting issues. “Every voter already got either a ballot in the mail or they got a sample ballot in the mail.”

Fontes added that people who don’t have the voter ID card should not be turned away from the polls Tuesday if they have other forms of acceptable ID.

The Arizona Republic published information guides for voters who have not received their cards in the mail.

Fontes added that people who don’t have the voter ID card should not be turned away from the polls Tuesday if they have other forms of acceptable ID.

The Arizona Republic published information guides for voters who have not received their cards in the mail.

Although these citizens could provide other forms of ID at the polls, some voters told the Arizona Republic they’re concerned that less informed voters may not realize they are registered without the card.

“It’s another black eye for this Recorder’s Office,” Mesa, Arizona voter Larry Smith, who hasn’t received a new card even though he updated his registration in January, told The Arizona Republic. “You’ve got people registering to vote, some of them for the first time in their lives. It’s the duty of the Recorder to send them a voter ID card.”

During the presidential primary in March 2016, some Maricopa County voters waited in line for up to five hours to cast a ballot. The chaos led to an investigation by the Department of Justice and numerous lawsuits, including one filed by the Democratic National Committee.
Before the U.S. Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, Arizona was required to pre-clear any changes to its voting law with the DOJ.

Arizona now allows any eligible voter who desires to cast an early ballot by mail. According to the secretary of state, roughly 150,000 people had already voted as of Monday morning, making up around 80 percent of the of the total votes that likely will be cast. Of those that have already voted, almost 60 percent are 65 or older.

Fontes said his office will work to fix the problem with ID cards before future elections in Arizona.

“We’d like to perform better and we’d like to fix these circumstances,” he said. “But it’s also a very good opportunity for us to communicate to folks that it’s not the end all, do all and you’re going to get all the other information that you need by other means.”


TP
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 07:59 am
@Lash,
It shouldn't be hard to name a couple people leading your revolution in the ballot box. It would take you writing just two or three last names. You just wrote 47 words. I'm only asking for 2-3 words.

"*They* are winning."
"Which ones? Specifically."

LastName
LastName
LastName


Simple, no?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 08:20 am
@revelette1,
Officials try to minimize it, but they likely know elections are lost by considerably less votes than that.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 08:44 am
@maporsche,
Nope.

Not performing for you.

Find another hobby.

Hey! Send some more money to the DNC in protest!
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 09:09 am
@Lash,
Not one bit surprised at this response.

Fact is, there has been no overwhelming revolution at the ballot box between democrats and whatever new breed of progressivism you rattle on about.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 09:12 am
Yeah. Everything is politics as usual. Go back to sleep.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 09:39 am
The thought occurs that the Democrats refusing pac money, certain ones, may have secret deals to get paid off when they win.
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 10:13 am
@edgarblythe,
There is literally no pleasing you.Tough life man.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 11:12 am
http://theweek.com/articles/769073/bernie-sanders-conquered-democratic-party

Bernie Sanders has conquered the Democrat Party.
There’s no cramming that corrupt DINO party back in the bottle.

Rejected!

Excerpt:

Which makes developments since the 2016 election rather interesting: Quietly but steadily, the Democratic Party is admitting that Sanders was right.

Let's begin with the signature issue of Sanders' campaign: a national single-payer health-care program, or Medicare-for-all as it's known.

Hillary Clinton, who ultimately bested Sanders for the party's nomination, insisted the idea "will never, ever come to pass." Fast forward roughly a year, and Sanders' proposed Medicare-for-all legislation attracted 16 Democratic co-sponsors, including likely presidential contenders Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Corey Booker (D-N.J.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), and Kamala Harris (D-Calif.).

Meanwhile, the liberal think tank Center for American Progress has proposed bundling Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP into a public health coverage option on steroids. It would use bargaining tactics similar to Medicare to hold down health-care costs; premiums and cost-sharing would be capped to make it affordable for low-income Americans; and children and new retirees would be enrolled in it automatically. This isn't the same as Sanders' proposal, which would involve no premiums or cost-sharing at all (a provision unlikely to survive), and would blow up the whole health-care system in one fell swoop. But the idea is clearly for the new public option to ultimately swallow the rest of the system.
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2018 11:26 am
@Lash,
There is little in this article that hasn't been in a democratic party platform in one way or another for at least 20 years (that I've been paying attention).

It's not about great ideas (in my view, the Democrats have usually always had the better ideas), it's about getting enough Democrats in power to implement them.

I'll be glad if Bernie supporters/voters show up in 2018 and 2020 and vote for the Democratic candidate who will help them meet their goals (even the likely watered down versions that this article doesn't mention).
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2018 06:22 am
People who are scratching their heads about the idiocy of the DNC lawsuit against a handful of people, entities, and countries the DNC is trying to blame for Hillary Clinton’s crushing failure can get some clarity today.

The DNC was getting ahead of this: http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/24/bombshell-fec-records-indicate-hillary-campaign-illegally-laundered-84-million/

This may end them. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving pile of ****.
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The press continues to feed the dying Russia collusion conspiracy theory, spending Friday’s news cycle regurgitating Democrat talking points from the just-filed Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act lawsuit against the Trump campaign, WikiLeaks, and Russia.

Yet the mainstream media took no notice of last week’s federal court filing that exposes an $84 million money-laundering conspiracy the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign executed during the 2016 presidential election in violation of federal campaign-finance law.


That lawsuit, filed last week in a DC district court, summarizes the DNC-Clinton conspiracy and provides detailed evidence from Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings confirming the complaint’s allegations that Democrats undertook an extensive scheme to violate federal campaign limits.

From Bundling To Money Laundering
Dan Backer, a campaign-finance lawyer and attorney-of-record in the lawsuit, explained the underlying law in an article for Investor’s Business Daily: Under federal law, “an individual donor can contribute $2,700 to any candidate, $10,000 to any state party committee, and (during the 2016 cycle) $33,400 to a national party’s main account. These groups can all get together and take a single check from a donor for the sum of those contribution limits—it’s legal because the donor cannot exceed the base limit for any one recipient. And state parties can make unlimited transfer to their national party.”

This legal loophole allows “bundlers” to raise large sums of money from wealthy donors—more than $400,000 at a time—filtering the funds to the national committees. Democrats and Republicans alike exploit this tactic. But once the money reaches the national committees, other limits apply.

Suspecting the DNC had exceeded those limits, a client of Backer’s, the Committee to Defend the President, began reviewing FEC filings to determine whether there was excessive coordination between the DNC and Clinton. What Backer discovered, as he explained in an interview, was much worse. There was “extensive evidence in the Democrats’ own FEC reports, when coupled with their own public statements that demonstrated massive straw man contributions papered through the state parties, to the DNC, and then directly to Clinton’s campaign—in clear violation of federal campaign-finance law.”


On behalf of his clients, on December 15, 2017 Backer filed an 86-page complaint with the FEC, asking the FEC to commence enforcement proceedings against Hillary Clinton, her campaign and its treasurer, the DNC and its treasurer, and the participating state Democratic committees. The complaint, and an attached exhibit consisting of nearly 20 pages of Excel spreadsheets, detailed the misconduct and provided concrete evidence supporting the allegations. In short, here’s what happened and what the evidence establishes.

Think Of It Like A Shell Game With Millions Of Dollars
During the 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and participating state Democratic committees established the Hillary Victory Fund (HVF) as a joint fundraising committee to accept contributions from large donors, some exceeding $400,000. So far, so good. To comply with campaign finance law, the HVF needed to transfer the donations to the specified recipients, whether the Clinton campaign, down-ticket Democrats, the DNC, or state committees.

FEC records, however, show several large contributions reported as received by the HVF and the same amount on the same day (or occasionally the following day) recorded as received by the DNC from a state Democratic committee, but without the state Democratic committee ever reporting the contribution.

For instance, the HVF reported transferring $19,500 to the Mississippi Democratic Party on November 2, 2015, and the Democratic National Committee reported receiving $19,500 from the Mississippi Democratic Party on November 2, 2015. But the Mississippi Democratic Party never recorded the receipt or the disbursement of the $19,500, and without the Mississippi Democratic Party controlling the funds, the HVF’s contribution to the DNC violated campaign finance law.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2018 06:49 am
@Lash,
No surprise.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2018 07:31 am
@edgarblythe,
No doubt the Repukes are innocent of any of it...
maporsche
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2018 08:12 am
I'm curious to see where it goes in court.

It seems like what they did would be legal but they may have missed an accounting step. No idea how common this is, but when are billions dollars are floating around during a campaign season I'd not be surprised if this stuff didn't happen more often. I read that $6.5 billion was spent by all parties in 2016. 84MM is relatively small compared to that number.

The lawsuit was brought up by the COMMITTEE TO DEFEND THE PRESIDENT so there is definitely some political reason for bringing this lawsuit. Not surprised Lash posted it, for the same reasons.

But if something was done wrong, then the DNC should pay whatever fine and suffer whatever consequences need to be suffered. "The fall of the DNC" or whatever was predicted is quite a stretch though.

The solution is to get more democrats elected to reform the campaign finance system, like they've stated they intend to do when/if they get the power bestowed upon them by the governed.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2018 08:45 am
@Olivier5,
This crime is specific to the DNC.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2018 08:49 am
@maporsche,
Obligatory dodge from the crime.
I hate corruption.
I thrill when crooked people are called out for their corruption.
You would apologize for any crime committed by your tribe.

Rendering your opinions meaningless.
maporsche
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2018 08:51 am
@Lash,
I literally said:

"...if something was done wrong, then the DNC should pay whatever fine and suffer whatever consequences need to be suffered."
 

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