A good question Kristie. I would think that adoption agencies would favor a female couple only because the courts rarely grant custody to a father. I honestly don't know.
panzade wrote:A good question Kristie. I would think that adoption agencies would favor a female couple only because the courts rarely grant custody to a father. I honestly don't know.
Panzade you will be amazed to know that the courts have granted me custody, full custody of a child......
I'm not amazed...hence your nickname Care-Bear
http://www.adoptioninstitute.org/whowe/Gay%20and%20Lesbian%20Adoption1.html
The Adoption Institute, on Oct. 29, 2003, released a major report entitled "Adoption by Gays and Lesbians: A National Survey of Adoption Agency Policies, Practices and Attitudes." The research contains significant findings that promise to inform and help shape attitudes, policy and practice. It shows, for instance, that an escalating majority of adoption agencies (60 percent) now accept applications from homosexuals, and about 40 percent already have placed children with such adoptive parents. On a broad level, the study also demonstrates how profoundly social attitudes and practices toward gays and lesbians are changing, while the willingness of agencies to accept them as parents means a growing number of children who need homes are moving into permanent families.
cannistershot wrote:Didn't Rosie adopt?
Rosie has adopted 4 children.
3 boys , one girl.. all while she was with the same partner. ( source. People mag)
Granted, she is rich yes.. so things dont apply to her as they do in the real world.
But the fact still remains.. she did it. Partner and all.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.........
I just noticed my bar got bigger....
Im now a
seasonedmember
What seasonings do i get?
Does this make me special?
One of my employees and her partner adopted a child, good kid! And is very well cared for and loved. But no gay man that I know, regarless of how long they have been with their partner wants a child. My boss says that they smell too much like playdough and vomit to keep around for long. LOL
cannistershot, there are other gay men out there. gay men who are great dads. sometimes with partners, sometimes on their own. i'm glad to know a few of them.
ehBeth wrote:cannistershot, there are other gay men out there. gay men who are great dads. sometimes with partners, sometimes on their own. i'm glad to know a few of them.
Good! Being in Atlanta, party headquarters, I don't meet that type of man.
Oh, they're in Atlanta, I assure you! I also know some in Dallas and Kansas City. One is even a Bush supporter & major contributor.
Now I do have gay male friends that are Bush supporters, just none that want kids. It doesn't mean they don't exist.
shewolfnm - I don't think it is Christianity that says you cannot sleep with some one of the same sex, it is the person who is interpreting the Bible. I have attended a Christian church where they embrace homosexuals - they have even had a homosexual minister assist during the regular minister's absence. There is a website called religious tolerance that is full of interpretations of the Bible including many that show that homosexuality is acceptable.
Besides that above all else you say makes perfect sense to me.
Panzada/Kristie - I know one single man who adopted a boy. I don't know if he is gay or not and it really is none of my business, but I do not believe he ever had a roommate of any sort. I also know a gay couple who adopted a boy-this was quite a while ago before gay adoption was really heard of. They did have the woman with the higher income adopt as a single parent and the other woman is actually the one taking care of him on a daily basis. Just easier I guess to adopt as a single parent rather than a gay couple.
Every verse in the bible is how you interpret it. There are some verses that seem to say that it is wrong to me but I still have a hard time with this.
Cannistershot - a few pages back you sounded generally interested in the issue of gay marriage. My brother is gay and he and his last boyfriend discussed the issues around adoption and marriage and republicans vs. democrats. His partner, oddly enough, was a republican who wanted a family. His party politics out-weighed the marriage issue. My brother doesn't want to have kids, but he does want to have a long term relationship with a man and recieve the benefits of marriage.
After the election, he was very disheartened about the 11 marriage ban wins. He felt that most of the country, even liberal Oregon, felt he was illigitimate as a human being.
Quakers, who are Christian, have been preforming gay marriage ceremonies since the late 80s.
Outlawing gay marriage will interfere with these Christian's freedom to practice their religion.
littlek wrote:Cannistershot - a few pages back you sounded generally interested in the issue of gay marriage. My brother is gay and he and his last boyfriend discussed the issues around adoption and marriage and republicans vs. democrats. His partner, oddly enough, was a republican who wanted a family. His party politics out-weighed the marriage issue. My brother doesn't want to have kids, but he does want to have a long term relationship with a man and recieve the benefits of marriage.
After the election, he was very disheartened about the 11 marriage ban wins. He felt that most of the country, even liberal Oregon, felt he was illigitimate as a human being.
I am generally interested in the issue of gay marriage. I struggle with it daily, I didn't vote on it in GA because I haven't made up my mind yet. This is the second thread that I have been in to be educated on this, I only hope not to be attacked this time.
If you were attacked last time, shame on them.
panzade wrote:If you were attacked last time, shame on them.
Actually it was only one person. I think that thread is locked now.
An opposition argument from the Oregon voter's phamplet:
Argument in Opposition
In accordance with the historical testimonies of The Religious Society of Friends on equality and marriage, the North Pacific Yearly Meeting (NPYM) opposes all attempts to deny legal recognition of marriage of same sex couples.
This statement was agreed to in unity at the 2004 NPYM meeting representing over 50 congregations of one branch of Friends (Quakers) from the five Northwestern States. Quaker meetings in Bend, Corvallis, Eugene, Portland, Salem, and the Rogue Valley also have public statements supporting marriage equality.
Since 1989 Oregon Quakers have performed marriages of same-sex couples; a practice deeply considered from religious, moral, and personal perspectives. We believe such marriages are good and right in the eyes of God. We urge you to respect our religious freedoms and beliefs and vote NO on Constitutional Amendment 36 which would limit marriage.
Why are Quakers taking a stand contrary to social traditions? Quakers have opposed many unjust traditions, such as slavery and denying women the right to vote. Laws that enshrine unequal treatment of people are wrong. Such laws follow the worst traditions of discrimination. They are at odds with traditions of equality.
We support the tradition that marriage vows are a public statement of love and commitment between two people. Our State laws should support all marriages equally.
It is not fair that 5% of committed Oregonian couples, including those married by Quaker meetings, are excluded from the hundreds of legal benefits of marriage
Quakers are not trying to tell anyone what to believe. Similarly, the State Constitution shouldn't be rewritten making our belief in marriage equality illegal. Although religions have different views on marriage, our laws should provide equal benefits to all.
Churches aren't required to sanction marriages contrary to their beliefs. Equally, churches opposing marriage equality should not impose laws which prohibit us from celebrating marriages according to our beliefs.
Support religious freedom. Vote No on Constitutional Amendment 36.
(This information furnished by Bonnie Tinker, North Pacific Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers).)
