Bush supporters' aftermath thread

Hah! Now THAT is both funny and true at the same time.

Cycloptichorn

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

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So, you think 9/11 was conceived of and planned by no more than 5 people (maybe less according to you), yet you claim I'm the one unable to think clearly?

I can't see it and don't buy it. Am I being irrational?

No, I didn't say it was 'conceived and planned' by less than 5 people. Read carefully.

Let's say that information about a possible plot to attack the US was uncovered - say, information that Bin Laden wanted to attack the US. The only people who really are aware of what response that we chose to take to this information are the Prez. and his closest circle of advisors.

What is to stop the PNAC goons Feith and Wolfowitz, Cheney and Rumsfeld, from advising the president that we 'need' a Pearl Harbor type event in order to advance the agenda that they wished? It isn't as if they hadn't said this sort of thing before.

Cycloptichorn

And most of the PNAC gang were around about 1962 when Operation Northwoods was presented to JFK who vetoed that bit of insanity. If the Joint Chiefs of Staff were capable of planning an attack on U.S. citizens, surely it's believable that a gang of thugs like the bu$h gang could do even worse.

I suggest to you that some of that PNAC gang had been sitting on Operation Northwoods for years just waiting for the right moment. No doubt about it that a number of them were in gov. positions at that time (1960's). When they got george bu$h, a self-centered, self-serving, don't give a damn about anything & not interested in learning kind of person, it was the answer to their dreams.

As I mentioned before I would never give bu$h credit for actually having any part of devising such a scheme for the previously mentioned reasons...... he doesn't care enough about anything to work that hard!

I also don't believe he ever wanted the job that goes with the title of president that was acquired for him. He wanted the title and the power, period. Pres. Dick has been running this show the whole time.

That's the reason Pres. Dick and junior went to the 9-11 hearings hand in hand and would not anwer anything under oath.

Pres. Dick obviously ran the Operation 9-11 show. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

There are thousands of unanswered questions about that fateful day. Dick Cheney can answer most of them.

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Cyclops - you said "handfull", so how many is that in your world? And then you mentioned only a couple of people, so I figured 5 or less.

But, your story has wavered all over the place and to be honest, not much of it makes any sense. I mean, on the one hand you say you voted for Bush in 2000, but in another post you'll say things like you've been researching PNAC for years.

Believe what you want to. I'll most likely still be shocked when I read that kind of baloney, just like I was when I saw you tell everyone to go out and buy a gun.

I don't think they took your advice, by the way.

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I mean, on the one hand you say you voted for Bush in 2000, but in another post you'll say things like you've been researching PNAC for years.

I voted for Bush before I knew the PNAC even existed. I first ran across the PNAC in January of 2002. So I've been researching the PNAC for about 3 years, AND I voted for Bush in 2000. Not everything is mutually exclusive, yaknow.

I note that you don't actually address any of my points, you just call it 'baloney' and refuse to consider the possibility. But the fact remains that there is existed a situation where those who had the greatest ability to benefit, from a political and foriegn policy standpoint, were given the opportunity to facilitate said situation. You choose to believe that they didn't do so, because you don't want to accept what that would mean for the country. That's fine with me. I believe that those who have displayed a hunger for power, when presented with opportunities, take them.

I challenge you to do your own research and show me how this couldn't possibly have taken place. I understand that you give the benefit of the doubt to your Party Leaders, but you would be doing yourself no disservice to actually double check, would you? At the very least you could post your results here and make me look foolish(er).

Cycloptichorn

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[quote="Cycloptichorn"[I challenge you to do your own research and show me how this couldn't possibly have taken place. I understand that you give the benefit of the doubt to your Party Leaders, but you would be doing yourself no disservice to actually double check, would you?[/quote]

I see enough wackos who post here, citing the "whatreallyhappened" website and ignore them. I think this is the more prudent choice for me, so, no thanks to your 'challenge'.

Cyclops wrote:

At the very least you could post your results here and make me look foolish(er).

I think you're doing a fine job of that on your own.

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What is left for me to say? You have no factual argument with what I have presented, so there is no way to respond to your unwillingness to further discuss the subject.

I do find it funny, though, that you refuse to do any sort of research on the subject, and yet you claim I am the one who looks foolish. Have you taken the time to research the matter thoroughly? Thought about it? Or do you just, yaknow, remember what was said at the time and accept that as true?

--On preview, actually, I remembered the body of your posting on A2K and realized that challenging you to do anything involving reading was probably a waste of my f*cking time; so I'm going to go back to my previous policy of ignoring you.

Cheers

Cycloptichorn

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

What is left for me to say? You have no factual argument with what I have presented, so there is no way to respond to your unwillingness to further discuss the subject.

I do find it funny, though, that you refuse to do any sort of research on the subject, and yet you claim I am the one who looks foolish. Have you taken the time to research the matter thoroughly? Thought about it? Or do you just, yaknow, remember what was said at the time and accept that as true?

--On preview, actually, I remembered the body of your posting on A2K and realized that challenging you to do anything involving reading was probably a waste of my f*cking time; so I'm going to go back to my previous policy of ignoring you.

Cheers

Cycloptichorn

That's the standard operating procedure for those with the closed minds Clycl, to call those who do take the time to do research and to ask questions wacko.

Personally, I can't think of anything more wacko that someone who will accept any propaganda thrown their way without a question as long as it's favorable to 'their man'. It doesn't matter in the slightest that their man has proven to be one of the most lying, deceitful, human beings alive today as well as probably the most hated man on earth.

Just wonders mentions the What Really Happened web site as one of his/her reasons to "ignore them". If he/she had ever looked at that site he would see actual copies of the government documents that were released after 40 yrs under the Freedom of Information Act.

Will we have to wait 40 yrs to find out what this corrupt administration is doing?

If we do, you can bet your life it will be because of those closed minds who not only would not ask questions but criticized & prosecuted those who did. By then it may be too late.

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JustWonders wrote:

I think you're doing a fine job of that on your own.

What's new JW? I still admire your patience but wonder where you get your stamina. :wink:

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Sources: Airstrike may have killed bin Laden's No. 2

(CNN) -- A CIA airstrike on a building in Pakistan may have killed Osama bin Laden's most-trusted aide, sources said.

The building where Ayman al-Zawahiri was thought to be is in Damadola, a small village near the Afghan border.

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Wouldn't that be nice?

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According to many, the US is no longer interested in Osama or his henchmen and we are doing nothing to find him...

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Ticomaya wrote:

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Sources: Airstrike may have killed bin Laden's No. 2

(CNN) -- A CIA airstrike on a building in Pakistan may have killed Osama bin Laden's most-trusted aide, sources said.

The building where Ayman al-Zawahiri was thought to be is in Damadola, a small village near the Afghan border.

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Wouldn't that be nice?

How many times has george killed that old boy now?

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McGentrix wrote:

According to many, the US is no longer interested in Osama or his henchmen and we are doing nothing to find him...

As if the hated Bush & Co. wouldn't love to stick that feather in their cap. Rolling Eyes

There is no Rhyme or reason to what some will believe. And even less to what some will post; some of the crap I can't even believe the authors believe it.

That would be very nice Tico.

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McGentrix wrote:

According to many, the US is no longer interested in Osama or his henchmen and we are doing nothing to find him...

A recent CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey [published January 9th] found that by more than a 2-to-1 margin, Americans say it is unlikely that Osama bin Laden will be captured or killed in 2006.

With seems to reflect just an opinion.

As well as it is totally unclear until this very minute, what really happened in that village near the Afghan border: until now, Osama deputy's death is unconfirmed.

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Good to see you hanging around, O'Bill.

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Thanks Amigo. Now clear your schedule. Walter and I have a running bet over whether we'll meet you in Chicago. Don't let me down!

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Just a question - but what are we doing???

Is anyone searching for Ben Laden, or is Afghanistan off limits.

So confusing...

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Stradee wrote:

Just a question - but what are we doing???

Is anyone searching for Ben Laden, or is Afghanistan off limits.

So confusing...

The bu$h supporters are trying to convince everyone that they are tickled pink with their corrupt leader and that those who dare to think that this magnificent liar would ever do anything illegal are immoral, unpatriotic and crap like that.

Since you and I dare to read, to ask questions and know when to recognize lies and BS when we see it, of course we are on 'their list'.

Adolph Hitler would love a lot of the residents of these forums.

Nah.... no searching for Bin Laden. He's a special guest at the Crawford pig farm! Smile

http://groups.google.com/group/ImpeachTheCrawfordSOB

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The media doesn't cover all things going on in Afghanistan and Pakistan daily, so therefore we must not be doing anything. That seems perfectly logical... to some.

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McG, exactly. So what are we to deduce from the administrations non-information? And pleeeze do not cite "national security" yaddi yadda

Maggie Laughing

Wouldn't be a bit surprised if Laura was serving tea and crumpets to ben laden and his current 50 wives, and pitchin' cow chips on a Sunday afternoon during one of georges numerous ranch vacations.

Ok, so its a site better than listening to George explain why he hasn't a clue where ben laden is. Our sattelites can pick up a flea walking on a dog strolling along a busy street during the noon hour - veiwed from space - but can't find one guy in the dessert. Amazing.

So lets all speculate until someone has the guts to tell the truth.

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Ticomaya wrote:

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Sources: Airstrike may have killed bin Laden's No. 2

(CNN) -- A CIA airstrike on a building in Pakistan may have killed Osama bin Laden's most-trusted aide, sources said.

The building where Ayman al-Zawahiri was thought to be is in Damadola, a small village near the Afghan border.

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Wouldn't that be nice?

Pakistan has got 200 nuclear bombs, and an unstable government which is trying hard to keep the lid on potential insurgency within its own borders, while at the same time has an uneasy truce with its neighbour India over disputed territories.

Now the USA decides to bomb it.

Another triumph for US foreign policy.

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