JustWonders wrote:Cycloptichorn wrote:I'm not sure where the 'irrational hatred' aspect comes from. Is it an attempt to paint me as an irrational person?
Cycloptichorn
You don't see your statement that more than 90% think 9/11 was an inside job as irrational?
90% of the world population. My statement is that they don't believe the official line, not that Bushco. neccessarily cooked up the whole thing.
Quote:I can kind of see you thinking that - after all, you also told everyone they should buy a rifle the day after the 2004 election. You also said that you'd been cooking up 'plans' (in case Bush won) and advocated civil disobedience (anarchy, if you will) and the worst of it is, you were completely serious.
Yup. I still believe that there is ample evidence that shows the Republican party has been engaging in some serious vote-tampering, with Diebold & ES&S's help, for some time now. Without strong citizen outcry, we'll never get rid of these problems with the basic nature of our election system. In Eastern Europe, countries rebel and engage in Civil Disobedience over elections whose results are far less questionable than our own.
Quote:And you wonder why anyone questions your "rationality"?
Not anyone, just those such as yourself who have never, ever demonstrated the ability to think critically and clearly.
Quote:It leaves me wondering...how do you think Bush/Cheney/Halliburton pulled off 9/11 and what kind of gun did you end up buying to protect yourself from the "secret police" you said would overrun this country?
This is a two-part question.
First, I believe that there needn't have been a large number of people involved in order to make 9/11 work. As few as a handful of people could have done the neccessary things to allow 9/11 to happen: change the rules governing plane downing authority, schedule some 'training exercises' that day to fool the ATControllers, and wait for history to take care of itself.
It's a win-win situation for Bush. Either we would catch the terrorists, and it would be a victory for America that allowed us to ratchet up a war against the Middle East and Islaam in general, or we wouldn't, they would blow up a few buildings, and we
really would ratchet up the war, the war which the neocons
desperately wanted, Iraq. We've already seen how Bush began to ignore Bin Laden almost immediately, and shifted his focus to attacking Iraq; which was the real target all along.
I honestly don't believe Bush knew a damn thing about 9/11 before it happened; but I think that others in his admin did. For a long time I have stated that Bush seems to be little more than a pawn for the Neocons such as Feith and Wolfowitz. The events of 9/11 couldn't have worked out better for the Neocons if they had planned it themselves; and that raises a red flag in my mind.
As a student of history, consistently, throughout every civilization, there have been instances of corruption and downright conspiracies amongst the leaders of the country to commit acts that the populace of the country wouldn't approve of. This has
verifiably happened many many times throughout the last several hundred years, and many times throughout the last fifty years even, in many countries around the world. Yet, for some reason, many Americans
don't believe the same could happen here, even though it historically has!. Why? Is it that ol' 'American exceptionalism' raising it's head again? I don't know.
Whenever I see a situation such as this in which one party/group benefits greatly, I am instantly suspicious, and have good reason to be. If we were discussing a whole different country, other than America, you would not be so quick to dismiss the possibility that the leaders of that country duped the citizens, would you? There is no reason to believe that America is any different.
Second, as a red-blooded American male, I've owned and operated several rifles for years before 9/11 even happened. I believe that every American should own a rifle (civil defense is no laughing matter, it's a responsibility) and be trained in its safe use.
Cycloptichorn