Bush supporters' aftermath thread

Nice cop out there, george.

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I think that Cicerone Imposter may be correct. The internment of innocent Japanese American citizens who had done nothing wrong and, indeed, were good Americans was one of the worst atrocities ever to occur in the twentieth century.

The living conditions in those hovels were akin to the filth and misery found in Dachau and Buchenwald.

One has only to read Solzhenitlzyn on the Gulags in Soviet Russia and "A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" to find perfect parallels between the Soviet system of concentration camps and ours.

If there had been more Japanese available, we would have jailed them also, I am sure. The Germans, always efficient, caught up 6,000,000 in their camps. It is poissible that if we had been losing the war we would have killed the Japanese just as the Germans killed the Jews. As it was, we only had about 120,000 Japanese to intern.

The only reason why the Holocaust and the Gulags are highlighted when one speaks about concentration camps is that the Germans lost the war and the Soviets eventually fell apart.

Modern day accounts of the treatment of the innocent Japanese attest to the beastiality and brutality of the guards, many of whom were drawn from the criminal element.

Yes, the USA can indeed rank with the Nazis and the Soviets in their barbaric treatment of peoples in their concentration camps.

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Blotham, as usual, is far behind in his homework.

He has not referenced Rasmussen Reports which gives President Bush a 50% Job Approval rating, but then errors are to be expected from Blotham.

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Point made.

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Mortkat wrote:

If there had been more Japanese available, we would have jailed them also, I am sure. The Germans, always efficient, caught up 6,000,000 in their camps. It is poissible that if we had been losing the war we would have killed the Japanese just as the Germans killed the Jews. As it was, we only had about 120,000 Japanese to intern.

You're suggesting the third reich was only killing Jews because they discovered they were losing the war? They must have had this amazing foresight for a long, long time, then.

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Mortkat,

Is this the 50% you're talking about??

Quote:

President's Speech Boosts Confidence in War on Terror

In a survey conducted following the President's Sunday night speech, 50% of Americans believe the U.S. and its allies are winning the War on Terror. That's up from 44% immediately before the speech. It is also the highest level of optimism measured in 2005. More...

That's the only 50% I see from Rasmussen Reports. That is a far cry from 50% Job Approval rating as you state. If you can find something to the contrary, be sure and include a link because you've shown your "facts" to be false.

As to the 50% that think we're winning the war, that was right after the Chimps speech, and we'll see how long that takes to dive back down to 44% or less!! Be sure to read the rest of the article Massa honey, because no matter how hard Rasmussen tries to make the situation seem shiney and bright, the numbers don't share that picture. Give it a couple of weeks, Bush will be back in the crapper where he belongs!!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/War%20on%20Terror_Monthly_Update.htm

Keep it real, if you can!

Anon

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I just referenced the Rasmussen Report- Today's Job Approval Rate is 49%. It was 50% two days ago. Enter Rasmussen Reports- Right hand box on left shows 49% Job Approval Rating.

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Mortkat wrote:

I just referenced the Rasmussen Report- Today's Job Approval Rate is 49%. It was 50% two days ago. Enter Rasmussen Reports- Right hand box on left shows 49% Job Approval Rating.

I was just there ... link it!

Anon

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Never mind, I'll do it for you.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

50% AGAINST ... You happy with that??

I'll settle for that, especially as it dives back to the 44% and below range in the next couple of days. I'll be sure to track it for you and give updates!!

Anon

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http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/390/1226rbja0ac.jpg

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I am happy that you discovered the 49% Approval Rating Box in the left upper corner of the Rasmussen Reports. Even you will have to say that this was a gigantic rise from the 37% reported by some sources a month ago.

Of course, all of this Job Approval Rating means NOTHING in practical terms. It is only important insofar as it might affect the off year elections in 2006. I will predict that the Republicans will hold their majorities.

First of all, President Bush is precluded from running for President again so his personal Job Approval Rate means nothing for him except as it may impact others in his party.

Secondly, according to Morton Kondracke's column in the Chicago Sun-Times Nov. 5, 2005, Fair Vote, a electoral reform group which advocates handling redistricting through nonpartisan commissions rather than elected politicians has predicted that

'districts are so gerrymandered( because of the 2000 redistricting done BY BOTH PARTIES) that only 30 or so Congressional districts out of 435 are competitive"

Thirdly, according to a story in the Chicago Tribune on December 22, 2005- P. 10 headed POLITICAL CLOUT SHIFTS IN U.S.-----Southern and Western states are growing as much faster than the rest of the country that several are expected to grab House seats from the Northeast and Midwest when Congress is reapportioned in 2010. Demographers and political analyists project that Texas and Florida could each gain as many as three House seats,. Ohio and New York could lose as many as two seats apiece."

Things look tough for the left wing from Massachusetts!!!

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Oh Mortkat,

Zogby disagrees, they don't get the same results as the pro-business Rasmussen Reports. Theirs was done the 21st, after the Rasmussen Reports.

Quote:

The controversy, just days old, has not harmed the President, whose job approval rating has improved from a low of 38% earlier this month to 44% now - this as the nation has seen robust economic growth and the Iraq parliamentary elections last week were conducted with little violence and high voter turnout.

Asked whether they felt the nation was on the right track, 44% agreed, while 51% said the country was headed in the wrong direction, the poll shows.

Zogby also doesn't share your rosy view of GOP prospects either !!

Quote:

Zogby Year-End Poll: Democratic Prospects Brighten Heading Into 2006 - GOP lags

Asked if they would "definitely" or "probably" vote for the Democrat or Republican in next year's fall congressional election, 48% said the Democrat would get their support, compared to 40% who said they would vote for the Republican. While 3% said they plan on supporting a third-party candidate, 9% said they were unsure.

Not good Mortkat, Not good!!

Anon

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Well, Anon. We will just have to wait and see, won't we. As we did after you predicted that the Undertaker, Kerry would be elected president.

It didn't happen did it.

You apparently do not understand the meaning of the Fair Vote appraisal of contested seats and the shift of House votes to come since the population is moving to the West and to the South.

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Like you say Mortkat, we shall see. I actually consider your evaluation correct. I don't think the Demo's can take either House or Senate back!

I just love your arrogance about it though, and you don't want to be around if the Demos perchance pull it off, believe me!

Anon

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Arrogance? I don have any arrogance. I don have to show you no stinkin arrogance.

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georgeob1 wrote:

McTag,

I'm not really anti British (though I was raised by Irish immigrant parents to mistrust them.)

It is worth reflecting that The British in general, and the Scots in particular, have been a light to the world since at least the 17th Century.

You're welcome.

:wink:

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You mean as they plundered the wealth of subordinate countries, killed thousands upon thousands through war and the spread of diseases through colonization?

Some light. I know I would have feared for my life if I saw the "light" of Britain heading towards MY country then...

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georgeob1 wrote:

Apart from some very suspect data (Impeqachment = indictment) and some obvious attempts to use juxtaposition to imply meaning or a relationship where none exists, what is your point?

Just what is is Bernie that keeps you here?

Love it or leave it? That's so retro I feel like I might be in an Edsel.

I am not encumbered with the fallacy that your understandings and values reflect "America", george. You represent but one voice. It's a nationalist voice of a particular sort. Your military past deeply informs it. I could predict with a certainty of about 80+% who on this board has gone through the military or whose families have strong military traditions. Irregardless of the comprehensibility of such being at least somewhat necessary, indoctrination of a particularly acute sort marks many of you. Presently, military radio for servicemen in Iraq carries Rush Limbaugh twice daily. It doesn't carry Al Franken. EVEN WHILE Franken has been over there many times to entertain the troops and while, correct me if I'm wrong, Limbaugh has never felt such a need.

Now, aside from all that, it appears I've said something to piss you off again. That's unfortunate as I think you a friend. But what worth for me to speak other than honestly. You oughtta be the last person who would like to see me being politically correct simply because I have an address in either Canada or New York.

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Irregardless? bernie you know better!
IRRESPECTIVE OR REGARDLESS BUT NOT Irregardless

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blatham wrote:

EVEN WHILE Franken has been over there many times to entertain the troops and while, correct me if I'm wrong, Limbaugh has never felt such a need.

Okay, you're wrong: Afghanistan, February, 2005.

Read the article to find out about the hoops he needed to jump through to get that opportunity. He's not, you see, a "liberal" or a "leftist."

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