Fine. Sift to your hearts content. And I will continue to applaud those entities that are actually doing their job and will continue to appreciate the wisdom of the public who will punish those who don't.
dyslexia wrote:Ticomaya wrote:dyslexia wrote:Yeah really Tico, I agree with you. I don't see anything here in the US similiar to whats happening in China. What I do see here is the avid desire to limit or reduce various news sources to only those that present "my" point of view. Just wonders posts, with glee, the layoff of 500 workers from NYT as if this were a good thing. The good thing being less NYT with assuming correspondent increase in the publishing of a single point of view. I find this far more frightful and indeed dire for the US of A than China's blantent restrictions because it denotes and attitude of the populace not wanting to hear many and assorted points of view.
You think that if a population rejects a particular point of view, that is far worse than if a communist dictatorship imposes its will upon the people? 
Nice try Tico, but, no cigar. What I clearly said was "
Quote:correspondent increase in the publishing of a single point of view
." meaning that I do find worse to be the reduction of various points of view to "popular" points of view. Perhaps you would prefer less varity in points of view, I finds that to be consistent with "communist dictatorship."
Nice try, dys, but what you clearly said was, "
I find this far more frightful and indeed dire for the US of A than China's blantent restrictions because it denotes and attitude of the populace not wanting to hear many and assorted points of view." Hence my remark. I obviously know what you said, and my response was appropriate. Your thesis is absurd
ab initio, but even if were to suffer from a "reduction in points of view," it is because of free market forces, which will never be worse than the forces of a communist dictatorship.
Amigo wrote:Man, Tico. You just got laid out.
But it's rude for me to be here. I'm leaving.
You obviously don't have a very good eye for this sort of thing.
Seems like a perfectly accurate response. You wanted him to define "sovereign"? What is he supposed to be, a frickin dictionary? Look it up yourself.
Well, gosh, the looney-left is suddenly "frightful" LOL (thought that was reserved for all us scaredy-cat Conservatives). I guess their concern is that without their beloved, terrorist-aiding NYTimes, they'll no longer be a part of the well-informed, well connected (communication-wise) local/regional/national/global community. Tsk, tsk. That's what Al Gore invented the internet for ... LOL.
Cheer up libbies. We'll all sleep better knowing that there are enough people in this country that see the distortion of facts and reporting allegations without proper checking and sourcing (with the distinct intention of embarrassing the President of the United States) demonstrates poor journalistic standards.
Most of us simply believe the opposite of what the NYTimes tells us and find that we'll always arrive at the truth this way...nuch more often than not.
The tribe has spoken. Time for the "Times" to go.
And, Tico...I agree that the Times' lack of effort to undo an impression of what they reported that was obviously so wrong is despicable. Despicable, but not surprising.
No wonder Bush got voted into a second term. His supporters have the same difficulties at truth and the English language. LOL
Both elections were fraudulent. All the proof you need is at your finger tips.
The following underscores what "some" of us have been saying about the media all along. One hears something or picks something up off the wire service and the next thing everybody is reporting stuff as their own stories with little or no verification that the stuff they're spewing is true. You'd think they were all liberals.
Kudos, however, for these reporters who have the courage to admit the screwups and inadequacy of the media to report accurately and to report all the news.
RITA'S AFTERMATH
Katrina Takes a Toll on Truth, News AccuracySOURCE
Ben Stein discusses the charges of racism stemming from Katrina:
Quote:A Big Lie Put to Rest
By Ben Stein
Published 9/27/2005 12:10:01 AM
Josef Goebbels would have been happy with much of the mainstream media in the past few weeks since Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast. Goebbels, for those of you too young to know, was Hitler's propaganda minister. He is credited with creating the concept of The Big Lie. The idea was that if you tell a lie big enough often enough, people will believe it.
The big lie of the Hurricane Katrina story is that it reveals deep and hateful racism in America, that blacks were treated worse than other people because they were black, and that this shows the hypocrisy of this supposedly egalitarian nation.
Here's the truth. Many black people were harmed by Katrina because of where they lived relative to the path of the hurricane and the location of their neighborhoods below sea level and their refusal or inability to obey the mandatory evacuation orders for New Orleans. This is not racism. This is a matter of geography, weather patterns, and poverty or confusion. It has nothing to do with purposeful mistreatment of blacks by whites. Poverty and confusion, certainly big factors here, were in no sense caused by white mistreatment of blacks unless it was white mistreatment of blacks that ended many decades ago.
As soon as the rescue effort started -- and although it was tardy, it was just as tardy for whites and Hispanics as it was for blacks -- the main story was whites by the thousands hurrying to New Orleans to rescue blacks from rooftops, from evacuation centers, from hospitals, from old folks' homes. The rescue effort was totally and utterly colorblind. The idea that blacks in New Orleans were left to suffer while whites in Mississippi or Alabama were treated royally is simply fantasy. Whites suffered too, and yes, they were often helped by blacks.
When the relocations started, blacks by the hundreds and the thousands and the tens of thousands were welcomed into white communities far from New Orleans, into white churches, into white businesses, and also welcomed heartily by black churches, whose work has been magnificent. By the way, Wal-Mart went to relocation centers and offered jobs to anyone who had ever worked in any way for Wal-Mart before. No paperwork or documentation needed and they could start the next day. Wal-Mart, that supposed exploiter of the poor and the colored, was on hand to help before any government agency in Charlotte.
Oh, and also by the way, the nation's churches and synagogues opened their hearts to the evacuees and the impoverished by Katrina. I did not see too many help centers run by the ACLU.
It is just plain evil to try to divide the nation -- especially in time of war -- with false cries of racism. The response to Katrina shows just the opposite of racism -- a loving, compassionate response to victims without regard to race. One expects Al Sharpton to cry racism. He would not have a job without that phony cause. But for the media, who should know better, to try to paint such a wicked, dishonest picture -- well, Goebbels would have been proud.
Ed Koch talks about Cindy Sheehan:
Quote:September 28, 2005
Speak Up, America
By Ed Koch
Cindy Sheehan, whose son Casey was killed in action in Iraq on April 4, 2004, has become the face of the anti-war movement in the United States. While her grief is understandable, her rhetoric is outrageous.
As the mother of a son killed in battle in Iraq, she originally struck a sympathetic chord, whether you supported the war in Iraq or opposed it. One cannot help but empathize with the agony of a bereaved mother. But that has changed over the months, and I believe that many Americans who viewed her with sympathy no longer do so.
Many Americans, myself included, now see her as a person who has come to enjoy the celebratory status accorded to her by the radicals on the extreme left who see America as the outlaw of the world. These radicals are not content to be constructive critics. They are bent on destroying this country.
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Some of them want to turn America into a radical socialist state. Others hope to create a utopia. But regardless of their agendas, how can Cindy Sheehan's supporters defend her shameful statement, "This country is not worth dying for."
While we recognize the U.S. is far from perfect, we are still head and shoulders above most other countries in the world in every respect. We remain the place where almost all others, given the chance, want to come to live. We continue to be the land of opportunity. We are the world's leading economy.
Yes, there is far too great a difference between the incomes of the rich and the poor. Yes, we haven't provided universal medical care as a matter of right for all of our citizens. Yes, minorities still suffer from discrimination socially, in housing, jobs and education. But we have a political system that for more than 200 years has allowed the electorate to work its will through regularly held elections. The government follows the will of the people, or it will no longer stay in power..
Those who rail against the United States have simply failed to sell their message to the public at large. They keep losing elections, local as well as national. Rather than broadening their appeal, they have narrowed it.
I supported and still support the war in Iraq, because our Congress and President had every right to rely on the advice of the CIA that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. On Sunday, September 25, 2005, Tim Russert of Meet The Press, summed up the situation prevailing before the war, saying, "
post September 11th, there was a fear of terrorism, an inability to know whether there were weapons of mass destruction by the public or by the media. George W. Bush said there were. Bill and Hillary Clinton said there were. The Russians, French and Germans, who opposed the war, said there were. Hans Blix of the UN said there were."
Iraq had fought an eight-year war against Iran resulting in a million casualties, using poison gas against the Kurds, who were citizens of Iraq, and against the Iranian army. Yes, since the 2003 invasion, we have not found any present supplies of WMD. Nevertheless, based on advice from CIA counterparts advising every member nation of the United Nations Security Council, the Security Council, including Syria, adopted Resolution 1441 unanimously, finding Iraq had weapons of mass destruction for which it had not accounted and advising Iraq that failure to account was cause for war. Iraq refused to account for them to the U.N. We and our allies were right to invade, notwithstanding that other countries, terrified by the prospect of terrorism against them and tempted by corruption at the UN masterminded by Saddam Hussein through the Oil-For-Food program and lucrative vendor contracts with Hussein's regime, did not join us.
As I have often stated, we have accomplished our original goal to prevent Iraq from threatening us or its regional neighbors. We should declare victory and get out. Yes, there probably will be a civil war among the Kurds, Sunni and Shia. If the UN -- which is still under a cloud because of the "Oil for Food" scandal -- decides to take a military role in Iraq to stop the civil war, we can join them at that time. Having accomplished our original mission, we should no longer be fulfilling the obligations of other countries, such as Germany and France which have had a free ride to date. Even in Afghanistan, the latter NATO allies, do not participate in combat duty, leaving that and the ensuing casualties for the U.S. to bear.
President George W. Bush summed up his views on Iraq when he stated, "When the Iraqi army stands up, the American Army will stand down." I have low expectations of that happening in the immediate future. The estimates provided by the Bush administration on our getting out range from two to ten years. I do not believe we should wait that long, because of the casualties that would be involved. We should get out now, leaving the UN in charge. Although I believe that we should leave Iraq, I do not accept Sheehan's outrageous statements.
Sheehan has joined those who rail against Israel, labeling Israel as the culprit with her comment, "You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine and the terrorism will stop." Is that why Sunni and other terrorists have intentionally killed thousands of Shia civilians, labeling them, according to al-Zarkawi, infidels? Is that why Arab fundamentalists have declared war against all Christians and Jews?
According to Wikipedia, on August 15, 2005, on the Chris Matthews Show, Sheehan
saidEd Koch is the former Mayor of New York City.
I wonder if we could get the Rev. Peterson to run for office?
Moral poverty cost blacks
in New Orleans
Posted: September 21, 2005
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
by The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:
What would you do?
What would you do if you were black?
Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.
To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.
For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, then you'll probably wait for the government to save you.
This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.
No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results. . . .
More
HERE
Boy, there are disasters happening everywhere. Where will it end? In my e-mail this morning:
Hollywood Power Outage Sends City Into Chaos,
No Electricity for 26 minutes.
'This is Our Tsunami.'
By Joshua Gates
Actor, Photographer, & Victim.
LOS ANGELES, CA, September 12, 2005
Horror and disbelief swept through the greater Hollywood area this
afternoon as a minor power-outage turned the city into a virtual war
zone and local residents struggled to deal with the devastating aftermath.
The outage struck at 1:35 PM , during L.A. 's busy afternoon coffee and
Pilates rush hour. Traffic lights fell dark, local gyms and sushi
restaurants were without power for nearly 30 minutes and many businesses
were illuminated only by the light of the sun and its blistering 78
degree heat.
"It was horrible," said out of work actor and voice-over artist Rick
Shea. "I was in a Jamba Juice on Melrose when it hit and the blenders
simply shut down. A woman lunged for my Berry Lime Sublime and after
that, well, it got pretty ugly."
In the ensuing panic, local radio stations broadcasted conflicting
reports as to exactly which local businesses would be offering relief
supplies. Almost 100 people flocked to the Starbucks at Santa Monica and
La Brea only to find helpless baristas, no hot coffee and a totally
meager selection of baked goods.
"My mother is 83 years old and we heard on the radio that this Starbucks
was going to be up and running. If she doesn't get a venti Arabian Mocha
Sanani, I don't know what's going to happen to her, I really don't."
said Lucinda Merino of Los Feliz.
To make matters worse, those few people who did manage to get coffee
were further thwarted by a total lack of artificial sweeteners on site.
"Sugar in the Raw? Are you frigging kidding me?," sobbed avid salsa
dancer, Enrique Santoro. "I'm on the South Beach Diet and my insulin
levels are going to go crazy if I use this. Why isn't the rest of the
country doing something?"
Deteriorating conditions will force authorities to evacuate the
thousands of people at local Quiznos, movie theaters and upscale
shopping centers, including the The Beverly Center, where a policeman
told CNN unrest was escalating. The officer expressed concern that the
situation could worsen overnight after patrons defaced multiple "So You
Think you Can Dance" posters, looted a Baby Gap and demanded free
makeovers en masse at a MAC cosmetics store during the afternoon.
At least 2,000 refugees, a majority of them beautiful, will travel in a
bus convoy to Beverly Hills starting this evening and will be sheltered
at the 8-year-old Spago on North Canon where soft omelets with confit
bacon and Hudson Valley foie gras was being airlifted in by The National
Guard.
Honorary Mayor of Hollywood, Johnny Grant told a group of embedded
reporters at a Koo Koo Roo Chicken restaurant on Larchmont that, "The
scope and scale of this disaster is almost too much to comprehend.
Local carwashes are at a stand-still, the tram tour at Universal Studios
has been on hold for almost an hour now and I've been waiting for a
rotisserie leg and thigh with a side of greens beans for upwards of 15
minutes. This truly is our Tsunami."
"We want to accommodate those people suffering in the Beverly Center as
quickly as possible for the simple reason they have been through a
horrible ordeal," Grant said."
"We need water. We need edamame. We need low-carb bread," said Martha
Owens, 49 who was one of the thousands trapped in the Beverly Center
when the escalators stopped moving. "They need to start sending somebody
through here."
Along miles of coastline, the power simply surged, causing writers to
lose upwards of a page of original screenplay material, causing Direct
TV service to work only intermittently and forcing local residents to
walk outside and look helplessly at the Pacific from their ocean view decks.
"I can hardly begin to put this experience into words," said longtime
Two and a Half Men writer John Edlestein. "I was just getting into my
rhythm and making some real headway on a scene where Charlie Sheen
parties with a busload of female volleyball players when my Power Book
crapped out. I have nothing. Simply, nothing."
Delivering his weekly radio address live from the White House, President
Bush announced he was deploying more than 7,000 additional active-duty
troops to the region. He comforted victims and praised relief workers.
"But despite their best efforts, the magnitude of responding to a
tremendous problems," he said. "The result is that many of our citizens
simply are not getting the help they need, especially in the Hollywood
Hills, and that is unacceptable."
By Joshua Gates
Actor, Photographer, & Victim.
LOS ANGELES, CA, September 12, 2005
Horror and disbelief swept through the greater Hollywood area this
afternoon as a minor power-outage turned the city into a virtual war
zone and local residents struggled to deal with the devastating aftermath.
The outage struck at 1:35 PM , during L.A. 's busy afternoon coffee and
Pilates rush hour. Traffic lights fell dark, local gyms and sushi
restaurants were without power for nearly 30 minutes and many businesses
were illuminated only by the light of the sun and its blistering 78
degree heat.
"It was horrible," said out of work actor and voice-over artist Rick
Shea. "I was in a Jamba Juice on Melrose when it hit and the blenders
simply shut down. A woman lunged for my Berry Lime Sublime and after
that, well, it got pretty ugly."
In the ensuing panic, local radio stations broadcasted conflicting
reports as to exactly which local businesses would be offering relief
supplies. Almost 100 people flocked to the Starbucks at Santa Monica and
La Brea only to find helpless baristas, no hot coffee and a totally
meager selection of baked goods.
"My mother is 83 years old and we heard on the radio that this Starbucks
was going to be up and running. If she doesn't get a venti Arabian Mocha
Sanani, I don't know what's going to happen to her, I really don't."
said Lucinda Merino of Los Feliz.
To make matters worse, those few people who did manage to get coffee
were further thwarted by a total lack of artificial sweeteners on site.
"Sugar in the Raw? Are you frigging kidding me?," sobbed avid salsa
dancer, Enrique Santoro. "I'm on the South Beach Diet and my insulin
levels are going to go crazy if I use this. Why isn't the rest of the
country doing something?"
Deteriorating conditions will force authorities to evacuate the
thousands of people at local Quiznos, movie theaters and upscale
shopping centers, including the The Beverly Center, where a policeman
told CNN unrest was escalating. The officer expressed concern that the
situation could worsen overnight after patrons defaced multiple "So You
Think you Can Dance" posters, looted a Baby Gap and demanded free
makeovers en masse at a MAC cosmetics store during the afternoon.
At least 2,000 refugees, a majority of them beautiful, will travel in a
bus convoy to Beverly Hills starting this evening and will be sheltered
at the 8-year-old Spago on North Canon where soft omelets with confit
bacon and Hudson Valley foie gras was being airlifted in by The National
Guard.
Honorary Mayor of Hollywood, Johnny Grant told a group of embedded
reporters at a Koo Koo Roo Chicken restaurant on Larchmont that, "The
scope and scale of this disaster is almost too much to comprehend.
Local carwashes are at a stand-still, the tram tour at Universal Studios
has been on hold for almost an hour now and I've been waiting for a
rotisserie leg and thigh with a side of greens beans for upwards of 15
minutes. This truly is our Tsunami."
"We want to accommodate those people suffering in the Beverly Center as
quickly as possible for the simple reason they have been through a
horrible ordeal," Grant said."
"We need water. We need edamame. We need low-carb bread," said Martha
Owens, 49 who was one of the thousands trapped in the Beverly Center
when the escalators stopped moving. "They need to start sending somebody
through here."
Along miles of coastline, the power simply surged, causing writers to
lose upwards of a page of original screenplay material, causing Direct
TV service to work only intermittently and forcing local residents to
walk outside and look helplessly at the Pacific from their ocean view decks.
"I can hardly begin to put this experience into words," said longtime
Two and a Half Men writer John Edlestein. "I was just getting into my
rhythm and making some real headway on a scene where Charlie Sheen
parties with a busload of female volleyball players when my Power Book
crapped out. I have nothing. Simply, nothing."
Delivering his weekly radio address live from the White House, President
Bush announced he was deploying more than 7,000 additional active-duty
troops to the region. He comforted victims and praised relief workers.
"But despite their best efforts, the magnitude of responding to a
tremendous problems," he said. "The result is that many of our citizens
simply are not getting the help they need, especially in the Hollywood
Hills, and that is unacceptable."
This woman is an inspiration.
MEET DEBRA BURLINGAME
"Anger can be very, very productive, as long as it's focused and you don't lose your mind...."
Alright folks... I just listened to Bush try to comfort us on his decision of Miers for the SC... I'm still not that assured.
What was he thinking with this nomination? We have been waiting for this fight for some time and I really feel like he let us down. We had the votes to win a fight and get the person we wanted on the SC. He chose an unknown and I am just not comfortable with him and Cheny telling us to trust them.
JP - He knows what he's doing
JustWonders wrote:JP - He knows what he's doing
That may be... or may not be.
Why didn't he just nominate a qualified person that we
know what he/she is about? Why should we have to wait to see what kind of Judge she is going to be? There were plenty of qualified candidates. We have the votes and with the 06 elections coming up it we could have put immense pressure on anybody who tried to block the nomination.
It just seems like a weak choice.
