The continued reference to Mary Cheney by the Dems

That was a non partisan :razz:, :wink:

oops my bad :wink:

methinks he dost protest too greatly....

http://www.bettybowers.com/isbushgay.html

Hmm, well GWB may be gay. But if he is, Laura is sure gonna be surprised after all this time.

I couldn't agree more...and the hilarity that ensued would make these last four years almost worth it......

yep, bill. but it also seems that it also makes a difference when as much as where you grow up.

it looks, from most of what i've observed, like the vast majority of people that are wiggin' out over gays and gay marriage are in the 40+ range. maybe a little younger.

I say it's about damn time..and i'm 43

yep. i'm closin' in on 50, and i see a whole passal of much more important fish to fry.

i believe from what i saw, and heard kerry say, that he was putting a human face on a thing that is demonized by the exteme right.

Interesting point about the when and where born, DTOM, if you are referring to the actual bigots (not the divide shown on this thread's subject)... I would have to agree. I'm 36.

On this thread's subject though, the number of people who know with seemingly absolute certainty that Kerry is above such dirty tricks is comical in it's obvious folly. One would think such a saint would be more careful to never even allow for the misunderstanding.

I don't think he's a saint or even in the same ballpark :wink: you on the other hand come pretty damn close...come here you...damn there's no kissy emoticon here... but i do think 27 pages on this one topic seems way out of proportion.

I don't think he's a saint or even in the same ballpark :wink: you on the other hand come pretty damn close...come here you...damn there's no kissy emoticon here... but i do think 27 pages on this one topic seems way out of proportion.

Wow, that's an awfully nice thing to say! Thanks! I'll take care of the emoticon... come here you;

(I must confess to stealing that emoticon from the lovely Brooklyn.)

well we might not agree on much love, but i do respect you and your position..and the intelligent way you present your ideas...i admit the kiss is from the other thread since i heard you were undecided..:-)

That Eva's a funny one, ain't she?
And thanks for the kind words and kisses, but I don't' think it's gonna work. :wink:

georgeob1 states that gummint involvement in HealthCare would result in "rationing"... inferring that, due to limited supply under gummint supervision, some people may be shortchanged of the HealthCare products/services they want.

Gee, george, what do you think is happening with Flu Vaccine?

We've had enough canned rhetoric, now... got any ideas?

The shortage of Flu Vaccine is a perfect example of the "benefits" and "success" of the current system.
If you think the situation is acceptable and does NOT warrant reform... DON'T get a Flu Shot.

DON'T get shots for your kids, convince your GRANDPARENTS to forgo THEIR shots.

Skip ALL inoculations, treatments, medication, surgery or other medical intervention... and
Put your Faith in the Lord!

but in case he's busy talking to bush or napping or something...buy a few guns......and stock up on duct tape and plastic.....

I'm really screwed. I'm agnostic and I've never had a Flu shot... now what am I supposed to do?

Take a deep breath, hold it for a moment and then let it all out.

Recall some pleasant memory from your youth.

Think on how wonderful it is that your dog's food contains more nutrition the nation of Chad has provided it's citizens this month.

Relax.


Try to picture me tonight at the corner of Eighth Avenue and 23rd
peering South
imagining that I could still see the Towers in the distance.

Wondering how we got here,
in all the confusion,
I forgot to look up
or
look down
I can't remember which one was supposed to make the difference.


Joe

Damn, you're good Joe.

I'm only pasting the entire article 'cause The Washington Post online is a subscription service.

Singling Out Mary Cheney Wrong, Most Say
2 in 3 Polled Find Kerry's Comment 'Inappropriate'
By Richard Morin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, October 17, 2004; Page A05


An overwhelming majority of voters believes it was wrong for John F. Kerry to have mentioned in Wednesday's presidential debate that Vice President Cheney's daughter is a lesbian, according to The Washington Post tracking survey.

Nearly two in three likely voters -- 64 percent -- said Kerry's comment was "inappropriate," including more than four in 10 of his supporters and half of all swing voters. A third -- 33 percent -- thought the remark was appropriate.

Kerry's comment touched off a rare row among family members of the two tickets, and has become one of the hottest topics on talk radio since a CBS News report about Bush's National Guard service that was later discredited.

In the first reaction from President Bush, White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Air Force One on Friday that Bush "does not believe it was appropriate."

Asked whether he was looking for an apology from Kerry's camp, McClellan replied, "That's something for Senator Kerry to decide." McClellan said he thinks "a lot of people" share the president's view of the comment. "I cannot think of a single instance where a presidential candidate has talked about his opponent's child in such a way," McClellan said.

Kerry made the comment when asked whether he believes homosexuality is a choice. Bush answered that he did not know. Kerry said, "If you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as."

Cheney has two daughters, and one of them, Mary Cheney, who heads vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney campaign, has been open about being gay.

After the debate, her mother, Lynne Cheney, criticized Kerry for raising the issue of her daughter's sexual orientation. The vice president expressed his anger the following day.

The Post tracking poll shows Bush leading Kerry 50 to 47 percent. Independent Ralph Nader continues to barely register nationally, getting 2 percent of the hypothetical vote. But the survey suggests that Kerry continues to claim a large lead in key battleground states. In these 13 states, Kerry held a 53 percent to 43 percent advantage among likely voters.

A total of 1,555 registered voters were interviewed Wednesday through Friday nights, including 1,203 likely voters. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points for the overall results. It is plus or minus six percentage points for the question asking views on Kerry's comment about Cheney's daughter, which was asked on Thursday night.

Staff writer Mike Allen contributed to this report.


© 2004 The Washington Post Company

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A38563-2004Oct16?language=printer