Was the president wired during both debates?

I'd like to think not but I think it probably does. "If there had been a television in every home 60 years ago, does this country elect a man in a wheelchair?



Sadly, I think not.

Though I find the naming somewhat lacking in tact, I was responding more to the way it was being defended than the way Kerry used it...

Yeah, I definitely think it's the last reason he should be kept out of office, if that were the case. It would make for a rather compellng allegory, though, of how he masks weakness with bluster and refuses to face facts or admit deception/ mistakes...

Bush when asked if though people who were gay were gay by choice or were born that way. Answered I don't know. There is a preponderance of evidence that one is born to it. However, as i said Bush said I don't know. What if anything does Bush know. Oh! I know Saddam had WMD's and was about to wind up his sling shot to deliver then to the US.

"There is a preponderance of evidence that one is born to it."

Huh? What do you consider a "preponderance"?

I doubt it's a medical device. I doubt he has back problems. If he did (and I am quite familiar with joint pain) he wouldn't be riding bikes, jogging, clearing brush and bouncing around the ranch in a pick up truck. He also would have disclosed his pain before this, such as a wince coming down the plane steps, or when bending to pick up the dog.

Starting with you McGentrix....I would like everyone to chime in on when they "decided" they were heterosexuals......

From some old article by Suzanne Malveux.
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The president's personal physician advised the avid runner to have the MRIs while at the hospital on a planned trip to see the troops.

Bush, 57, has been complaining about occasional pain in his right knee, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. He has maintained an active exercise schedule. A tear on his right calf has fully healed.

His doctors recommended continued limited exercise, cross-training, quadricep strengthening and stretching, the White House said in a statement Thursday.

The evaluation was supervised by the president's physician, Richard Tubb, and included clinical examination by Stephen Haas, the president's sports medicine consultant, and Kevin Murphy, chief of orthopedic services at Walter Reed.

Bush had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee in 1997 while governor of Texas. He had MRIs of both knees in August 2001, when the wear and tear on them was first noted.
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So, he was so bad he had arthroscopic surgery--which I read up on--and it says arthroscopic surgery rarely provides any relief. Its almost a placebo operation. So, my bet is that he is in a lot of pain, and that thing on his back is related. The knees may have been the first in a series of arthritic problems that require that device.

May be an answer to the length and timing of some of his vacations.

So.... His knee is in the middle of his shoulder blades? A true contortionist!

Always looking for the positive, eh Soz? :wink:



Up until 7th grade, I had no interest in sex (struck me as a disgusting idea, if memory serves.)Then I noticed the girls had started growing breasts. That's when I made my decision! :wink:

Viola!
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I'm going to mention two things about the advanced pain therapies. These advanced pain therapies are targeted towards the pain mechanism. What it means is that you do something where your requirement of the medication is either none or very minimum. You bypass the stomach, the kidney, the heart, brain and you just deliver medication right in the spinal cord where actually it works. And those are the implantation devices that we are using [that are] state-of-the-art techniques to control the pain. The intrathecal pump is a drug delivery system where the drug is delivered into the spinal canal. What it means is you cut down almost 300 percent of the requirement of the medication to control your pain. That means 299 milligrams of medication does not do anything to you other than giving you side effects where you need only 1 milligram of morphine. Now this intrathecal pain therapy is the delivery of the medication into your spinal canal. And this is a programmable, implantable device and it consists of a catheter which is a fine tubing and connected to a battery operated pump which is slightly bigger than a pacemaker and implanted into the stomach area in a subcutaneous [under the skin] tissue by a minor surgery. And what it means is you would need just this pump to be refilled every three months. You don't have to take medication too frequently and the dose is so miniscule that you have minimum to no side effects. And this is one of the most successful pain control device these days. And the advantage [is that] the blood level is maintained steady, so your pain control is absolutely smooth when you find the right dose for you. Again, this is a fully implantable device and it's programmable. Catheters placed intraspinally, and the surgery required is so small that it does not require general anesthesia and it does not require hospitalization. It's the same-day surgery.

This pre-implantation trial is actually done before the pump is implanted permanently and this to find out whether or not your system will accept this device. And whether or not, by putting this device your pain will be controlled. So, this trial is a couple of days, two to three days and if you're a successful candidate, meaning that pain reduction is 50 percent or side effects are cut down by 50 percent, then you are a successful candidate. The other device is called Spinal Cord Stimulator. What it means is the small, tiny electrodes are placed in the epidural space. Epidural space is the space outside your spinal canal where these nerve roots are. It's a small electrical device with the small impulses. And what it does is by stimulating the different fibers your pain is inhibited or interrupted. And this is one of the devices where you don't really need to take medication. So [for] patients, those who don't like to take medications, this is a wonderful device.

McG, if people could choose who they find attractive, don't you think there would be fewer gay people in society? Think about how difficult homophobics make their lives... Why would anybody choose such a life when they could choose another, easier way? It's not a matter of choice, it's a matter of chemistry. It's how some people are wired. If it were environmental, then heteros would not have gay siblings. If parents could make an environment that would insure their kids were hetero, don't you think they would to make the lives of their children that much easier?

How about the opinion of the vast majority of the Gay and Lesbian community?

Does that count as a preponderance to you? After all, they have a little more experience with it than any outside judge....

Cycloptichorn

Well, there's always bisexuals and the prison population to consider, definitely some choice going on there...

--but I do believe some people are as naturally homosexual as others are hetero.

It's not in the Republican Handbook Cycloptichorn..

I agree. But it should be noted that there is a difference between being bisexual and homosexual.

I always recall a line from the Shawshank Redemption when people mention prisons in this debate:

ANDY: Are they homosexuals?
RED: Nope.
ANDY: No?
RED: Nope. First you would have to be human.

It's not that I don't think that some people CAN choose to be gay; I just think that the vast majority of people cannot.

Cycloptichorn

Interesting find Lash. I'd say that's 10 times more likely than a foolish placement of a radio receiver (sporting 1950s dimensions to boot )!... but my money's still on brace.

I would agree.

the statement was "There is a preponderance of evidence that one is born to it."

there are some theories regarding this, however there is ZERO evidence to prove it.

More evidence than there was to invade Iraq, and you know it!

Not to get off topic, what WOULD count as evidence for you, McG? Anything?

Cycloptichorn