OCCOM BILL wrote:Interesting find Lash. I'd say that's 10 times more likely than a foolish placement of a radio receiver (sporting 1950s dimensions to boot
)!... but my money's still on brace.
Nope. He's too active a man. I'm a body worker, he moves too well and too often to be needing a brace to stand up straight for 90 minutes. ANd why would he have worn it a second time if there were rumors he was wired? And certainly not a 3rd time... My guess is it's some sort of pretective gear that secret service wants kept secret.
Cycloptichorn wrote:More evidence than there was to invade Iraq, and you know it!
Not to get off topic, what WOULD count as evidence for you, McG? Anything?
Cycloptichorn
A specific gene found in homosexual people that when active makes a person homosexual. That would be good evidence, don't you think?
OCCOM BILL wrote:Always looking for the positive, eh Soz? :wink:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:Starting with you McGentrix....I would like everyone to chime in on when they "decided" they were heterosexuals......
Up until 7th grade, I had no interest in sex (struck me as a disgusting idea, if memory serves.)Then I noticed the girls had started growing breasts. That's when I made my decision! :wink:
I'm with ya on the breast thing...but I noticed a long time before that......you must've been bottle fed......
But surely not the only evidence. We haven't even found all of the genes that determine eye color, it's not likely we'll find a homosexual gene any time soon.
But there is supposedly a preponderous amount of evidence proving it. Where is it?
I suspect that anything bush may have been wearing under his jacket was protective.....also, he was leaning over and hunched up...which would make his jacket ride up in the back....no one dislikes bush more than I do but I don't think he was receiving instructions through a wire......that would make the person giving them to him as stupid as he is.....and that's impossible
I love Bush's inability to repeat the phrase 'pay as you go.'
He kept saying 'paygo.' What the hell does that mean?
Cycloptichorn
Cinnesthesia wrote:He's stupid, as well as a pompous smirky smug dysfunctional. And maybe even a frog blower-upper.
ROFLMAO. That's priceless!
Quote:Cycloptichorn wrote:
More evidence than there was to invade Iraq, and you know it!
Not to get off topic, what WOULD count as evidence for you, McG? Anything?
Cycloptichorn
A specific gene found in homosexual people that when active makes a person homosexual. That would be good evidence, don't you think?
That would indeed be good evidence, but we are getting back to the nature vs. nurture debate there. I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle - some are probably pre-dispositioned to be homosexual, and whether they would have been so naturally or whether events in their lives have helped that aspect of their personality come out, it is hard to say.
The current theories say that there probably isn't just ONE 'gay gene.' Check this article out:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996519
So it's still up in the air.
Cycloptichorn
So how do lesbians fit in to this theory?
Maybe it was a lesbian detector?
Lesbians, according to the theory, don't recieve 'enough' of the genes that lead to attraction to males.
Homosexual males recieve too much. I don't know whether or not the theory holds true, it seems pretty up in the air to me, but it is clear that there is some evidence that homosexuality is linked in some way to genetics.
Which would mean.... it isn't a choice.
Cycloptichorn
A good theory, yes. Not evidence though. I am still waiting for that. Probably gonna be a long wait, so I won't hold my breath.
As an aside, without worrying about evidence, do you believe that sexual orientation IS a choice? Based upon not only your experiences with homosexuals but with your own sexuality?
If it is not too personal. If it is, please do not take offense; I normally wouldn't ask such a question but it seems pertinent to the conversation in this case.
Cycloptichorn
I have known many homosexuals in the course of my life. Six, I would consider to be close friends. One I would consider to be among one of my best friends. I have asked them and they do not know. They do not know if they made a choice or if they were born that way. Do heterosexuals know? Were you born a heterosexual or did you choose to be one?
All I know is that when I look at a woman, I desire them, I do not have the same feelings when I look at a man. My friend is the opposite.
So, I believe it is a bit of both, but I have no evidence of this. Therefore, I must avoid making statements like "There is a preponderance of evidence proving it"
There was a woman in the meeting I just attended and I so badly wanted to tackle and just eat her. I'm so happy to be a lesbian.
In other words, if it's a choice, it's not a conscious choice. So what's the difference?
