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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ? Part 2

 
 
Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 01:35 pm
Russian agents have been bragging for months that they hacked the Emails, and now Russia says, "Hack? Us? Surely you've made a mistake".

Cripes, some people have the memory of goldfish.
Krumple
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 01:45 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:

Russian agents have been bragging for months that they hacked the Emails, and now Russia says, "Hack? Us? Surely you've made a mistake".

Cripes, some people have the memory of goldfish.


As usual, you miss the obvious criminal.

How the hell would russians even know Hillary had a private server? No one in the state department knew. Or at least claimed to know. Its not something you can google. Although now it is.. But the crimes Hillar committed go unpunished. But lets take Trump to court over **** that supposed happened ten plus years ago.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 01:49 pm
@Krumple,
Podesta is an idiot. That's why he was hacked and his emails stolen.

Clinton campaign chair John Podesta gave his email login info to hackers after clicking on phishing link

How did alleged hackers get access to the email account of John Podesta, the chair of the Hillary Clinton campaign? Apparently he just gave them his password.

This is according to a leading cybersecurity firm, which says Podesta fell for a simple phishing scam frequently used in spam mail.

A researcher at the company SecureWorks told Motherboard that Podesta was sent an email on March 19 that appeared to have come from Google. In the email was a link using Bitly, a URL shortening service. Podesta clicked on this link, which took him to a fake Google page, where he then typed in his login information.

According to the cybersecurity firm, this is how the email account of former secretary of state Colin Powell was also hacked.

The alleged hackers appear to later have sent Podesta’s emails to the whistleblowing journalism organization WikiLeaks, which has published them this month in installments. WikiLeaks says it has 50,000 messages to and from Podesta, and has published roughly 2,000 per day.

Revealed in the emails have been excerpts of Clinton’s paid speeches to Wall Street, evidence of collusion between the Clinton campaign and prominent journalists, strategies the Clinton campaign used to undermine Sanders, examples of the close ties between the Clinton Foundation and the U.S. government and more.

The Clinton campaign immediately blamed the alleged hack of Podesta’s email account on the Russian government. The Clinton campaign also previously blamed the alleged hack of the Democratic National Committee on Russia, claiming it was part of an elaborate conspiracy by President Vladimir Putin to sway the U.S. election in favor of Donald Trump — although campaign officials admitted they did not have any evidence.

The leaked DNC emails showed how the Democratic Party leadership, which is bound by its own rules to be impartial, undermined the campaign of Bernie Sanders, helping Hillary Clinton clinch the nomination. Four top DNC officials resigned in response to pressure after the leak.

In early October, the Obama administration took the accusations a step further. The Department of Homeland Security released a statement officially blaming the Russian government. The brief, three-paragraph statement did not cite any solid evidence, however. It was also full of ambiguous language — noting that the U.S. intelligence community “is confident,” and that the hacks “are consistent with” methods used by Russia.

Most major media outlets have echoed these accusations, but the U.S. government has yet to provide any solid proof. When asked what substantiation the U.S. government has, White House spokesperson Josh Earnest insisted that “much of the evidence is not something that we can discuss publicly,” forcing the public to take the government’s claims on faith.

The Russian government has denied meddling in the U.S. election.

Many news reports blaming the Russian government are eerily reminiscent of those published about Saddam Hussein’s supposed “weapons of mass destruction” in the lead-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. U.S. officials who are quoted are frequently kept anonymous, and no specific evidence is presented.

The cybersecurity firm SecureWorks said the alleged hacking method used to obtain access to Podesta’s email account is a method the Russian hacker group Fancy Bear has used in previous campaigns.

“The Google-spoofing domain in the Motherboard article is one we observed used by Fancy Bear,” a SecureWorks researcher told Politico.

Researchers have accused Fancy Bar of having ties to Russian intelligence services, although, again, evidence has been sparse.

Motherboard noted, “None of this new data constitutes a smoking gun that can clearly frame Russia as the culprit behind the almost unprecedented hacking campaign that has hit the DNC and several other targets somewhat connected to the US presidential election.

DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 01:50 pm
@Krumple,
State Department? WTF are you talking about? Podesta's emails have nothing to do with the State Department.



As for your ridiculous hypothetical, no editorial board would print such a letter. And, yes, police would follow up with claims that someone knows who a bank robber is.

Police, though, not the general public.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 01:54 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Many news reports blaming the Russian government are eerily reminiscent of those published about Saddam Hussein’s supposed “weapons of mass destruction” in the lead-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

That's just silly.

Bush deliberately ignored the US intelligence services, and used "evidence" that the US intelligence services had already debunked.

There is no parallel whatsoever.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 02:00 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

Quote:
Many news reports blaming the Russian government are eerily reminiscent of those published about Saddam Hussein’s supposed “weapons of mass destruction” in the lead-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

That's just silly.

Bush deliberately ignored the US intelligence services, and used "evidence" that the US intelligence services had already debunked.

There is no parallel whatsoever.


Pavlov's dogs have nothing on you. Did you even bother reading the entire sentence before replying?

Quote:
Many news reports blaming the Russian government are eerily reminiscent of those published about Saddam Hussein’s supposed “weapons of mass destruction” in the lead-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. U.S. officials who are quoted are frequently kept anonymous, and no specific evidence is presented.


See what they did there? They finished the sentence and explained their comparison.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 02:46 pm
@McGentrix,
Yeah, except that specific evidence has been presented about Russia being behind the hacking, so yeah, totally the same.

Anonymous sources + no evidence = 17 intelligence agencies + specific evidence.

You really got me there....
parados
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 02:49 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

The same ones that said Saddam had WMD's? I don't recall many of you having a lot of faith in the Intelligence agencies then. Why the u-turn?


Except those Intelligence agencies didn't claim Saddam had WMD. That was the office of the VP that cherry picked info from the agencies to push it's agenda.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 02:52 pm
@parados,
Also, there was enough information on the media to tell us all we needed to know. They kicked out the UN Weapons Inspectors to start their war. It was the failure of our government; nothing else.
I even wrote to Senator Diane Feinstein not to approve the war, but she wrote back and told me with the information they had, she had no choice to but approve the war. They are all criminals; killing innocent people.
Why didn't they let the UN Weapons Inspectors finish their job? They didn't have anything to lose.
I have since then lost trust in our government.
It's the same government that put us Japanese Americans into concentration camps during WWII because we looked like the enemy. Most of us were American born citizens of this country, and we were not charged with any crime.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 02:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That's true. The people that were actually investigating WMD (UNSCOM) in Iraq said there was no evidence of Iraq having any program or weapons.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 03:41 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

Yeah, except that specific evidence has been presented about Russia being behind the hacking, so yeah, totally the same.

Anonymous sources + no evidence = 17 intelligence agencies + specific evidence.

You really got me there....


ok wise guy. show me the evidence. please quote me, with the source, 17 different reports, 1 from each agency, showing that Russian agents were behind hacking Podesta's email.

I'll wait here for your data.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 04:20 pm
@McGentrix,
Shttp://abcnews.go.com/International/nsa-hacking-back-russias-cyber-squads/story?id=41010651

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49791/russian-dnc-emails-hacked/
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 06:03 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
Murdered, hounded out of the nation, relatives murdered.

Such a nice place to live, really.


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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 06:14 pm
@revelette2,
That's an error.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 06:18 pm
Hillary wants to bomb, bomb, bomb Iran

parados
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 06:19 pm
@McGentrix,
That is a pretty easy one.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national
Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 06:26 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote salon via McGentrix:
Quote:
The leaked DNC emails showed how the Democratic Party leadership, which is bound by its own rules to be impartial, undermined the campaign of Bernie Sanders, helping Hillary Clinton clinch the nomination. Four top DNC officials resigned in response to pressure after the leak.

Notice-bound by the DNC's own rules. Not by any Federal, state or local government rules. So if the leadership of the DNC is found to favor one candidate over the other, the only thing that can happen to them is that they get thrown out of the party.

Dimwit critics don't understand-only your vote in November is constitutionally guaranteed to be fair. There are laws to protect it. Who the individual parties choose to run in the election is the individual parties' business, and they can use any method they wants, such as a primary, a convention of party leaders, or a leader emerging who claims Divine Right. There were no laws broken with the DNC.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 06:40 pm
@McGentrix,
Yeah, then you'll ask for a notarized copy, countersigned by the Martian ambassador.

The joint statement has been posted in the thread at least twice, but I'm sure that won't keep you from ignoring it and/or trying to move the goalposts.


Your integrity called, it told me it's not too late for you to come pick it up and dust it off.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 06:49 pm
@Blickers,
I am amazed that the democratic party would want a democrat who has been a democrat for 40 years and has helped many democratic senators and representatives be elected over a socialist who never did anything for the democratic party until he decided to run for president as a democrat. I just cant believe that those politicians would want Hillary over Bernie. I am flabbergasted at the lack of political knowledge shown by so many on this site.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 07:31 pm
@parados,


I read that and I didn't see a single bit of evidence connecting Russia to any email hacks of Podesta or a single report from any one of the 17 Intelligence agencies Drewdad mentioned.

When you find that, let me know.
 

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