@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:He would see many of the same injustices today. His political ideology is what matters about him.
It's awful to read his speeches of decades ago and to realize that things are not better for many people in his community - and are worse for some. It's a blemish on America.
A horrible waste.
ehBeth wrote:
giujohn wrote:Racism is no longer an institution or systemic.
I think you live a very privileged life.
I responded to this previously and either I screwed up the posting, or the post was removed. Most likely the former, but it
was a bit controversial.
In any case, I can't speak to the nature of your life except to say you live in Canada (and all that speaks of one)
But, I'm pretty sure you're white and as these things go, there are virtually no considerations beyond the color of your skin, and as yours is white, you enjoy "white privilege."
So know tell us why your privilege is any less significant than giujohn's.
Believing black people are every bit the equal of whites; have been victims of white supremacy, and need continued assistance from the white privileged government doesn't cut you any slack when it comes to white privilege.
Did you see the video of the young black woman telling the crowd of sympathetic followers ready to march against racism, "Y'all white people need to go to the back of the line. Black people up front."
Your views won't get you to the front of the march or an exemption from the label "white privileged"
Now then your comments about MLK:
Quote:...things are not better for many people in his community - and are worse for some.
On what evidence do you base this statement?
Do you have an idea of what life in America was like for black people at the time MLK came to prominence? If you did, you wouldn't be making such an absurd statement, and, by extension, you wouldn't be insulting the achievements of MLK.
Is America truly a race neutral environment? No, hell no, but the progress brought on by the Civil Rights Movement was, by any standard, enormous.
As with any momentous event, there are more than one father, but MLK was entirely crucial to the achievement. Without him it would have been years before changes happened and they may, very well, have been the result of violent acts.
What is the numeric value of "many" and "some"?
What does "better" mean?
Before the achievements of the Civil Rights Movement, virtually all black people had to deal with truly institutionalized racism; where discrimination was legal and on the books.
Who are the "many" that have to deal with Jim Crow laws and the like?
Before the achievements of the Civil Rights Movement, it didn't matter all that much as to how hard or creatively a black person worked, the system was stacked against them. All of these legal means of suppressing black people are gone. Societal attitudes have changed tremendously. We elected an African-American to the presidency!
Who in the black community are "worse off" since MLK because of either the things he was fighting against, or their
rebirth?
The things giujohn ticked off as achievements of MLK are absolutely correct. Do you dispute this?
Feeling sympathetic to the
black cause and wanting to demonstrate such in A2K doesn't make you any more accurate than giujohn. No doubt it makes you feel superior, but that's to expected
Finally there is this
Quote:His political ideology is what matters about him.
What did he fight for and give his life for?
1) Unions
2) Redistribution of wealth
3) Vietnam War opposition
Nope. His political ideology was entirely secondary to his fight for equal rights.
You couldn't be more wrong.
