Will Donald Trump Be Afraid To Debate Hillary Clinton?

Sorry, there's a graph above that ought not to have been italicized as it is a comment from Jay.

"Notice what they’re saying: Because we zealously guard our independence and objectivity, we feel compelled to warn you about Trump. That’s not a rejection of our non-partisan principles, but an extension of them through extraordinary times."

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Trump hinting no third debate for him

Donald Trump blasted the Commission for Presidential Debates on Wednesday, claiming the bipartisan group is “rigged” and declaring himself “done” with it.

“The head guy worked for Bill Clinton. Ay yai yai. What a rigged deal this is,” Trump said at a rally in Florida. He was referring to CPD co-chair Mike McCurry, who served as Clinton’s press secretary for three and a half years. What Trump did not mention is that McCurry’s co-chair is Frank Fahrenkopf, chairman of the Republican National Committee while Ronald Reagan was president.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-on-the-commission-for-presidential-debates-it%e2%80%99s-a-%e2%80%98rigged-deal%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-done%e2%80%99/ar-AAiSgd1?li=BBnb7Kz

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@giujohn,

Hearsay.

If you've got "well-documented" proof then by all means share it.

And as far as "private citizen" vs "public servant". Can it. They both are running for the same job. The same job. When you hire somebody for a job you look at whatever resume you're presented with.

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Ryan sounds alarm on Trump
The speaker tells donors that the GOP nominee is doing worse than McCain in '08, when Republicans lost 21 seats.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/paul-ryan-donald-trump-house-republicans-229716#ixzz4Mw5xsROx

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@maporsche,

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And as far as "private citizen" vs "public servant". Can it. They both are running for the same job. The same job. When you hire somebody for a job you look at whatever resume you're presented with.

Agreed. Excellent point.

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@snood,

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Ay yai yai.

Ay yai yai, indeed. So now tRump is going to show what a coward he is, also. If he does chicken out, and I hope he does, Hillary will have a wonderful opportunity to go into detail on her platform.

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@giujohn,

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I guess you're afraid to call it by its real name... Perjury. The president of the United States and lawyer, an officer of the Court, perjured himself. HE LIED UNDER OATH. It ain't about the blowjob, it never was.

And as far as Monica being a willing participant... This is an immature young intern and he is the most powerful man in the Free World... That's like saying the high school teacher who has sex with his 18 year old student is ok because she was a willing participant. Just like the teacher, Bill was in a position of authority over the intern

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This whole Monica/Bill impeachment thing has been debated for twenty years. Suffice it to say, Bill Clinton was never charged of perjury except by the partisan House in congress. In the Paula Jones case he was charged with contempt of court; he settled with Paula Jones, he temporarily lost his license and I think gave up his right to argue in front of the supreme court. By this point he wanted to have it over and done with. As far as Monica, I read her book. She was twenty four and Bill Clinton was not her first rodeo. They were two willing adults capable of making a mutual decision to participate in sex acts. President Bill Clinton apologized for everything, misleading and the affair itself, both to his family and to the nation. Since this still dogs him, I think he has paid his price.

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@maporsche,

maporsche wrote:

Hearsay.

If you've got "well-documented" proof then by all means share it.

And as far as "private citizen" vs "public servant". Can it. They both are running for the same job. The same job. When you hire somebody for a job you look at whatever resume you're presented with.

Granted, I would look at both resumes. But again, you missed the point. I give more weight to someone who pledged to protect the public Trust as a public servant and then violated that trust. They should be held to a higher standard than a private citizen.

Lets use an example that seems to be all the rage here in A2K: when a police officer is involved in a the shooting versus a private citizen as a public servant the police officer should be held to a higher standard in viewing the circumstances of that shooting... I'm sure you would agree.

Therefore as Secretary of State charged with protecting United States interest, exposing our nation secrets to bad actors and placing undercover intelligence operatives in jeopardy, and causing the death of a US ambassador and three security personnel, is a violation of the public trust and she should be held to a higher standard when viewing the circumstances of these incidents, as opposed to a businessman who uses the tax laws to his advantage and has a big mouth.

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@revelette2,

As long as Bill is campaigning for Hillary and as long as he is her husband and virtually on the same ticket as candidate for president United States, and if dredging up an 11 year old videotape is fair game, so are Bill's past deeds.

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@giujohn,

giujohn wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Hearsay.

If you've got "well-documented" proof then by all means share it.

And as far as "private citizen" vs "public servant". Can it. They both are running for the same job. The same job. When you hire somebody for a job you look at whatever resume you're presented with.

Granted, I would look at both resumes. But again, you missed the point. I give more weight to someone who pledged to protect the public Trust as a public servant and then violated that trust. They should be held to a higher standard than a private citizen.

CEO of a multi billion dollar corporation comes with quite a bit of trust too. Trust of his employees, trust of his contractors, trust of his investors. Being a father comes with a lot of trust too. Trust of fidelity in marriage. Trust of being a good father. Trump isn't just any private citizen, I'm sure you'll agree with that.

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Lets use an example that seems to be all the rage here in A2K: when a police officer is involved in a the shooting versus a private citizen as a public servant the police officer should be held to a higher standard in viewing the circumstances of that shooting... I'm sure you would agree.

I do agree, but not with your reasoning. The police officer is held to a higher standard because of their TRAINING and job responsibilities. They are professionals trained and hired to protect and serve. Jimmy the retired bus driver isn't.

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@giujohn,

Go ahead have at it, just don't expect much to come of it because the two are not equal and are not getting the same attention.

There are more confirmation of the acts Trump actually committed along the lines of the Billy Bush/Trump video of talking of sexually assaulting/harrassing women.

Trump campaign rocked by new wave of sexual harassment allegations

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The advice Donald Trump gave Bill Cosby about sexual assault accusations

By The Washington Post

PUBLISHED: October 13, 2016 at 12:35 pm | UPDATED: October 13, 2016 at 12:36 pm

By Peter Holley, The Washington Post

It was November 2014 and Bill Cosby was in the early stages of a snowballing sexual assault scandal that would eventually result in dozens of damning accusations against him.

Early on, as the accusations against the once-beloved entertainer were beginning to mount, Cosby remained silent – a decision that confounded a future Republican presidential nominee.

Asked by an E! reporter to comment on Cosby, Donald Trump – a man who had weathered numerous scandals of his own over the years – offered the comedian some advice.

“Well, I think it’s very sad, and frankly I don’t think he’s handling it very well,” Trump told the network as he stood beside his wife, Melania, on the red carpet at the New York Ball Benefit at Trump Tower.

More:
http://www.denverpost.com/2016/10/13/donald-trump-bill-cosby-sexual-assault-accusations/

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Okay, anyone changed their mind about Trump chickening out - of this third debate? I think the chances are much increased now that he will.

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@snood,

I don't think he can.

His whole persona is based on never backing down, and hitting back harder than you were hit.

He'll go to the debate, whine and bluster and try to shout down Clinton and the moderator, and show the world, yet again, that he's a complete ass.

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@DrewDad,

Well, I hope he does show up and and hope he does give us one more internationally televised look at just how small and empty he is. I deserve a little joy in my life.

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@snood,

At this point, to pull out would be to concede the election. He needs a game changer and the debate is a chance for that, however small.

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Well, I just hope it won't be as depressing as the last debate. I could hardly get into it after that display which came before it. I spent my time watching Bill Clinton face when they showed him to see his reactions. You could tell, Hillary was furious and was putting on her stoic expression. In my honestly held opinion, she won hands down simply because she was engaged with the audience and answered their questions rather than staying on some kind of pre-arranged script like Donald Trump did the second go around. However, the pundits had other ideas of who won. I have no idea how the next debate will go but I think it will still be held.

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@engineer,

he will get the jello pudding account

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@maporsche,

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I do agree, but not with your reasoning. The police officer is held to a higher standard because of their TRAINING and job responsibilities. They are professionals trained and hired to protect and serve. Jimmy the retired bus driver isn't.

So Hillary would have received training as both a senator from New York and as Secretary of State and as a federal employee how to safeguard classified information. I know, I work for the federal government and I know I received that training and I also know that if I was to do what she did I would be in a federal prison. If the excuse and standard is going to be that I never intended to expose classified information than this country secrets are in grave peril.

And as most of the Liberals here a quick to say about Bill Clinton I could care less what Donald Trump does in his personal or business life because it does not affect the citizenry at Large. I do however expect people that work for me as public servants to be held to a higher standard.

While I am no longer a law enforcement official in my government position I can if I am negligent negatively affect the lives of the public... I deal with life-and-death situations every day and if I screw up even unintentionally I would expect to be held to that high standard.

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@snood,

Now that Chris Wallace has been named the moderator, we might actually see a real debate and not a chance for the standard liberal media hacks to toss up softballs to Hillary while they allow Trump to get hammered. An even hand will be a nice change of pace.

I'm willing to bet that Hillary will drop out of the last debate because she won't have cheerleaders in her corner.

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