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Bush AWOL documents fake?

 
 
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 11:09 am
Interview with Jim Hatfield, Author of "Fortunate Son.&
A BuzzFlash Interview with Jim Hatfield, Author of "Fortunate Son."

[BuzzFlash Note: Jim Hatfield passed away on July 18, 2001, of an apparent overdose of prescription drugs. No one will ever know the truth of what happened. We were glad to have known Jim. His work exposed the truth of George W. Bush's fabricated past. For information on sending contributions to the fund for Jim's Daughter, Haley, visit the Soft Skull site at http://www.softskull.com/jimhatfield.html.]

May 31, 2001

A few days ago we posted an interview with Sander Hicks, from SoftSkull Press, publisher of "Fortunate Son," the expose that the Bush propaganda machine got banned for a while. Next month, "Fortunate Son" will be republished in a Second Edition. BuzzFlash.com obtained an exclusive interview with Jim Hatfield, author of "Fortunate Son," which we are posting below.

"Fortunate Son" covers the seedy and hypocritical past of America's Anointed President-Select. You get a full accounting of the dark underside of the front man for Bush Incorporated.

HERE IS THE BUZZFLASH.COM INTERVIEW WITH JIM HATFIELD:

BuzzFlash: Why was the Bush Campaign so scared of "Fortunate Son" being published?

Hatfield: For the obvious reason--everything contained between its covers is the truth. Pure and simple. Here it is a year-and-a-half later and no one has ever disproved anything in "Fortunate Son." The biography has withstood the test of time and, trust me, there has been an army of conservatives who would have given up their first born to destroy this book. But they had to settle with trying to destroy me instead. But to their absolute utter dismay, I'm still standing. My e-mail signature is from writer Langston Hughes and it fits me like a glove: "I've been insulted, eliminated, locked in, locked out, and left holding the bag. But I am still here."

BuzzFlash: What are the five most important reasons that someone should read your book?

Hatfield: 1. You'll get an intimate, detailed biography of George W. Bush, the person.

2. A reader will discover what a truly "fortunate son" he has been. If his name had been George Smith he would never have gone to Yale or Harvard with such abysmal grades, avoided Vietnam at the height of the war in 1968, he would have never made money in oil businesses that continually drilled dry holes or been able to buy into a major league baseball franchise (and become its Managing General Partner) and eventually become a multimillionaire, or campaign for Texas governor and defeat a charismatic incumbent, and, of course, raise more money than anyone in the history of this country to run for--and eventually win--the U.S. presidency.

3. You'll get an in-depth look at his record in governor in the Lone Star State and come to the disheartening realization that he didn't lie about one thing: He made a campaign promise "to do for America what I have done for Texas." And he sure as hell is trying his best to honor that pledge with tax breaks for the rich that will eventually consume the surplus, turn the country into a toxic waste dump, push a conservative agenda through the legislature, and screw the poor and middle class.

4. A reader of "Fortunate Son" will get a very detailed account--a blueprint--of how he planned to run and win the White House long before he even announced his intentions to be reelected as governor.

5. Finally, you'll realize that he is nothing but a high-paid gigolo, beholden to his corporate sugar daddies who gave him enormous amounts of money to look after their best interests while he was governor. I name names and provide the dollar amounts in the book. Now you see these same executives and lobbyists greasing his palm at party fund-raisers. The man is shameless. Those are the five most important reasons why someone should read "Fortunate Son."

BuzzFlash: Do you consider the Karl Rove propaganda machine to be effective? As a victim of his hatchet jobs, do you give the devil his due?

Hatfield: In "Fortunate Son" I detail how Rove adroitly engineered Bush's move from the Governor's Mansion to the White House. He is the ultimate dirty trickster. He's the one who initiated the "whisper campaign" against John McCain and tried to make him look like the Manchurian Candidate when the senator started kicking Bush's ass in the primaries.

Now word is leaking out that he pushed Cheney to have the illegal fund-raiser at the vice-president's residence recently and he was also behind the politics of personal destruction against Jeffords. Both have now exploded in his face. With the Democrats in the driver's seat of the Senate, they may push for an investigation into Bush-Cheney fund-raising irregularities and trying to punish Jeffords for voting against Bush's tax cut plan drove him out of the GOP and, in the process, has severely hobbled the president.

As to the second part of your question of whether I was "a victim of his hatchet jobs," well, quite frankly, I'm between a rock and a hard place. I have always believed that an author or journalist should keep his word if he told his confidential sources that they would always remain anonymous in exchange for the information they provided. Everybody and their mamma has tried to get me to name the three confidential sources who alleged in the afterword to "Fortunate Son" that Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972. However, through some tough financial and emotional times for my family and me during the past year and a half, I've never reneged on my promise to those three persons. Television newsmagazines, tabloids, Larry Flynt, and a host of others have offered to pay me, but the answer has always been the same: "Thanks, but no thanks." I know that Sander Hicks, my publisher, has stated in interviews and in the introduction to the new, updated second edition of "Fortunate Son" that Rove was one of my sources, but I cannot personally deny or confirm. A man's word is his bond and that's about all I have left these days.

BuzzFlash: What political strategies that you found in Bush's tenure as Governor of Texas are being repeated in his "Presidency"?

Hatfield: Two stand out like redwoods among mere sprouts: The art of personal politics and choosing a short list of issues to focus on and see that they become law. When Bush arrived in the Texas Capitol in January 1995, his official calendar during the first three months in office showed that he had met one-on-one with at least fifty House members, including twenty-one Democrats, and with almost half the Senate. Additionally, Bush held private breakfasts and luncheons at the Governor's Mansion with legislators. He has done the same thing in the past 4 months since he became president, except he hasn't tried to work with the Democrats. I don't know why he even bothered to go through the motions of looking like he wanted to end gridlock in Washington.

He has attempted and, for the most part, been fairly successful at ramming his conservative agenda down the Democrats' throats, as if he had some mandate from the people. Will someone please tell this village idiot that he lost the popular vote? But just like he did in Texas, he has chosen less than half a dozen proposals that he wants to see Congress pass: an enormous tax cut scheme for the rich, his rape-the-earth energy plan, and the costly Son of Star Wars missile defense system. And just like he did in Texas, Bush has spent a great deal of time traveling around the countryside, trying to sell people on his short list of proposals and demand that they put the heat on their representatives to vote his way.

BuzzFlash: What five adjectives would you use to describe Bush?

Hatfield: Fortunate, larcenous, lazy, petty, deceitful, insensitive, stupid, manipulative, phony, racist...oh, I'm sorry, you told me to only list five.

BuzzFlash: Are you planning any further Bush exposes?

Hatfield: I don't believe I wrote a "Bush expose."

My wife, Nancy, taught me that a biography must be more than dates, facts and quotes. It must convey the person's heart, soul, and thoughts. To truly do justice to a biographical subject, you have to write about that person's horns and halos. Bush just happened have a lot more horns than halos, so the conservatives claimed that I set out to write a hatchet job on the guy. I just told the truth, just like I did with my biographies of 20th-century pop culture icons and stars of screen and stage, Patrick Stewart and Ewan McGregor.

BuzzFlash: Do you expect the White House to unleash a counterattack against you and your book?

Hatfield: You betcha! It's Bush and his gang's modus operandi. Usually when a hard-hitting biography of someone is published, the subject ignores it and refuses to comment on the book because discussing or refuting it or even calling the author horse hockey, only draws more attention to the book--the opposite of what the biographical subject wants. When "Fortunate Son" was first published in October 1999, there was an orchestrated plan to discredit me on a daily basis publicly, while the Bush lawyers were privately pressuring Saint Martin's Press to take the unusual step of recalling all copies.

While George W. was calling the cocaine arrest allegation "science fiction" and "ridiculous" (but never denying it), his father gave Fox News an exclusive interview and bold-faced lied. He claimed his lawyers had been in contact with me and was threatening to sue (neither I nor my attorney ever heard from any legal representative of the Bush family). The elder Bush also said I alleged in the book that he "bribed a judge" to insure his son's cocaine arrest was expunged. Using my sources' own words, I detail how he used his political influence with a judge friend in Houston to make sure George W. got community service and the record expunged.

The Bush campaign also drafted former Harris County (Houston) District Attorney Carol S. Vance to issue a statement debunking the allegations that the charges against Bush were expunged by a GOP judge, claiming that they could not be true because no Republicans served as judges in the county at the time. Vance's statement does not prove that what I asserted was false. Actually, it validates my procedural process of corroboration when dealing with anonymous sources. Two of the three stated it was simply a "state judge" who expunged Bush's cocaine arrest, while only one of them said, "Republican."

By late 1999, all 59 state district judges were Republicans, whereas in 1972 they were all Democrats. Was it a simple mistake on the part of one of my sources, or purposely planned to discredit me at a later date, as my publisher, Sander Hicks, believes (as do quite a few others). And then, of course, the final nail in the coffin during that week in October 1999 was the eventual front page story in the Dallas Morning News that I had a checkered past. Suddenly the media was more obsessed with the life of the biographer than the subject of an even-balanced but unflinching biography of a man that eventually became president.

Confederate General Robert E. Lee once said, "When you're too weak to defend, you must attack." And that's exactly what the Bush campaign did. This time it will be the White House. Actually, they've thrown everything at me but the kitchen sink, both personally and professionally. Also, like I said earlier, not one single statement in "Fortunate Son" has been disproved during the past year and a half. What truly worries me and wakes me up in a cold sweat during the middle of the night, is what one of my confidential sources for the cocaine arrest told me when it was announced that Soft Skull Press was going to re-publish the book less than 3 months after St. Martin's Press recalled it: "Jim, we're not done discrediting you. The wheels are already in motion for more of the same." Then he went on to say if I "valued the lives" of my wife and baby daughter (whom he called by their first names), "then you'll cancel this publishing deal right now, today." It makes you wonder why the Bushes so desperately want this book suppressed. What's contained in its 400+ pages that scares the hell out of them?
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Brand X
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 11:20 am
Re: BBB
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Bush: Fortunate son; preferential treatment film:

http://www.democrats.org/fortunateson/index.html


I can't believe they put Barnes and Rather in anything they are associated with. This is way too easy to refute in a Republican 527 ad. Imagine the possibilities? This is too good.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 11:22 am
The New Republic's Andrew Sullivan lashes out at Dan Rather and his failure to admit his errors in time:

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DAN RATHER AND THE BLOGOSPHERE.
Retorting 101

by Andrew Sullivan

Post date: 09.14.04
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I have a feeling that the biggest news of last week had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the media. We are in the middle of an insurgency against the occupation of the airwaves by that amorphous group called--in blogspeak--MSM, or mainstream media. And the latest direct hit has exploded in the illustrious offices of Dan Rather and CBS News.

A brief recap: Last week, CBS News reported on fascinating and newly discovered documents that purported to show that George W. Bush did not perform his military service in the Texas National Guard adequately and that political influences got him off the hook. The alleged memos--from Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian, Bush's Texas National Guard squadron commander--are almost certainly fakes. And the fakery was uncovered by a series of blog postings on a variety--a bewildering variety--of old, new, and tenacious blogs. Within a couple of days, the news about the probably forged memos had reached full circle to become stories in the MSM itself, with even The New York Times conceding that Dan Rather had almost certainly been hoaxed to some degree or other.

From any kind of perspective, this is not an earth-shattering event. The documents are by no means the only evidence for Bush's lax National Guard service. U.S. News & World Report just ran a far more devastating piece proving Bush's patchy record, a story that was naturally ignored by almost everyone. I know of very few people who believe that Bush's family connections never influenced how he managed to avoid combat during the Vietnam years; and just as few who really believe this is an issue that should determine the election.

What's riveting has been the reaction of CBS. Like Howell Raines and the directors of the BBC before him, Dan Rather seems to believe that journalism is some kind of caste profession, a calling that no amateur blogger can aspire to. His reaction to the questioning of his reporting was pure Raines:

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These questions grew out of new witnesses and new evidence, including documents written by Lieutenant Bush's squadron commander. Today on the Internet and elsewhere, some people, including many who are partisan political operatives, concentrated not on the key questions of the overall story, but on the documents that were part of the support of the story. They allege that the documents are fake. Those raising questions about the CBS documents have focused on something called superscript, a key that automatically types a raised "th." Critics claim typewriters didn't have that ability in the 1970s, but some models did.


Rather goes on--but he is obviously twisting in the typewriter ribbon. Notice how he tries to dismiss the queries because the documents were not the only evidence provided in the story. That's a defense? Notice also the red herrings--the idea that some advanced typewriter existed somewhere that typed like the one in the memo. But in a local Texas National Guard office? And Rather ignores the mountain of other signs that the memos were faked--the way in which identical forms were created using Microsoft Word, the dissent of Killian's relatives, and finally, the opinion of CBS's own expert who conceded yesterday that he had not even authenticated the papers. "There's no way that I, as a document expert, can authenticate them," Marcel Matley told The Washington Post. The originals were faded copies. No independent expert has vindicated CBS.

This is not the first time that a major news organization has been hoaxed. It happens. But what's stunning is the way in which CBS has responded. Its defensiveness is not the attitude of any journalistic organization truly interested in finding out the truth. CBS's Jonathan Klein even went so far as to say the following: "Bloggers have no checks and balances. ... [It's] a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas." Actually, I'm in sweatpants and a tanktop. But of course, it doesn't matter a jot what a fact-checker is wearing as long as his facts are correct. CBS's apparently aren't.

There's been a lot of hubris in the blogosphere about this, and, indeed, some blogs, most especially Power Line, should get the blog equivalent of a Pulitzer for their dogged pursuit of the truth. But the reality is far simpler and less flattering to bloggers. Journalism is not a profession as such. It's a craft. You get better at it by doing it; and there are very few ground rules. By and large, anyone with a mind, a modem, a telephone, and a conscience can be a journalist. The only criterion that matters is that you get stuff right; and if you get stuff wrong (and you will), you correct yourself as soon as possible. The blogosphere is threatening to some professional journalists because it exposes these simple truths. It demystifies the craft. It makes it seem easy--because, in essence, it often is.

Blogging's comparative advantage has nothing to do with the alleged superior skills of bloggers or their higher intelligence, quicker wit, or more fabulous physiques. The blogosphere is a media improvement because the sheer number of blogs, and the speed of response, make errors hard to sustain for very long. The collective mind is also a corrective mind. Transparency is all. And the essence of journalistic trust is not simply the ability to get things right and to present views or ideas or facts clearly and entertainingly. It is also the capacity to admit error, suck it up, and correct what you've gotten wrong. Take it from me. I've both corrected and been corrected. When you screw up, it hurts. But in the long run, it's a good hurt, because it takes you down a peg or two and reminds you what you're supposed to be doing in the first place. Any journalist who starts mistaking himself for an oracle needs to be reminded who he is from time to time.

CBS News has failed on all these counts. It did shoddy reporting and then self-interestedly dug in against an avalanche of evidence against it. Rather can blather all he wants about the political motivation of some in the blogosphere--but what matters is not bias but accuracy. His attitude, moreover, has bordered on the contemptuous; and the blogosphere has chewed him up and spat him out. He has acted as if journalism is a privilege rather than a process; as if his long career makes his critics illegitimate; as if his good motives can make up for bad material. The original mistake was not a firable offense. But the digging in surely is. It seems to me that when a news anchor presents false information and then tries to cover up and deny his errors, he has ceased to be a journalist. I'd like to say that Dan Rather needs to resign from his profession. But, judging from the last few days, he already has.

Andrew Sullivan is a senior editor at TNR.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 11:32 am
Ugh.

I agree with Sullivan, and agree with Thomas' recent comments.

No matter what, even if the fake memos can be traced to Rove as a clever way to distract attention from the legitimate questions about Bush's service (this is my husband's pet theory), Rather just shot his credibility to pieces.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 11:33 am
Virtually every expert and ANG veteran and others have determined the memos are forgeries.

Rather is in a conundrum which is he does not, even at the cost of CBS' failing reputation, want to give up his source and that would be the next bridge he would be forced to cross if he goes on air and admits that they are fake.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 12:45 pm
well, hell !!! so we're right back where we started. again...

kerry - 1968-1969 = vietnam ..... bush - 1968-1969 = texas

this whole flippin' election campaign is turning into the "who's on first" skit by abbott and costello...

Shocked
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 12:50 pm
Indeed. At some point, will the media decide to stop reporting the slimy attempts to discredit both, admit that Kerry served in Vietnam and Bush in Texas, and we can get on with the issues?
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A Lone Voice
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 02:00 pm
Re: BBB
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Bush: Fortunate son; preferential treatment film:

http://www.democrats.org/fortunateson/index.html


BumbleBee: Thank you! For some reason, all the libs around here were:

1. Refusing to comment on this;

2. Pretending it didn't exist;

3. Seemed embarrassed about it.

A question that some of us raised earlier was the timing of CBS airing the story with the suspected documents, and the DNC's release of "Operation Fortunate Son."

The question is, was this a coincidence or was it a coordinated effort between Rather and operatives from the DNC?

Who will be the Gen X version of Woodword and Bernstein that will investigate how deep this might possibly reach into the Democratic Party?

Will it be a blogger?
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 04:05 pm
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~booblehole/Bush/bush_awol_f-102.jpg
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A Lone Voice
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 04:22 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~booblehole/Bush/bush_awol_f-102.jpg


Great, insightful response there, Dooki. That is just about the best argument about the DNC connection to the faked documents I've ever seen! (Sarcasm noted............)
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 04:27 pm
A lone Voice:

The fact that I didn't "write" the cartoon, but only posted it, is an even better argument coming from such a stellar neoconservative.

Sarcasm? You betcha. Although the fact that Bush doesn't read that much is readily out there.
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A Lone Voice
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 04:31 pm
You just seem to be avoiding the issue of the DNC's "Operation Fortunate Son" like almost every other 'progressive' here....
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 04:38 pm
No, not at all. The DNC is finally showing some cajones in fighting back against the GOP smear factory. It will be interesting to see what Americans think of this dolt before November 2nd, knowing NOW what they didn't know THEN.
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A Lone Voice
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 04:49 pm
Actually, what will be interesting is if the media makes a connection to the Dan Rather/CBS fake document story and the release of "Operation Fortunate Son" by the Democratic National committee. This is why the non-CBS media is starting to "swim around Rather like hungry piranhas, the Time's Wm Safire leading the school" comment by the very conservative padmasambava. :wink: (Just kidding; Pan seems to be a dedicated liberal who I think is really Jerry Brown).

Even you must find the timing somewhat interesting, no?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 05:20 pm
Here's a bit of historical-trivia hope for ya, Dookie ... twice since WWII has a Presidential Candidate overcome a Labor Day Gallup Poll deficit to go on to win the November election. It can be done.

Oh .... those two candidates? Harry Truman, who overcame a 5-point Gallup Labor Day disadvantage to narrowly defeat Dewey, and Ronald Reagan, who came back from a 1-point Labor Day deficit to deliver a 389-to-89 Electoral College trouncing to Carter .

Don't despair ... forge ahead.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 05:27 pm
BTW, in '48, the Dixiecrats, considered at the time by Gallup and other pollsters to be irrelevant, took a substantial number of votes from Dewey, while in September of '80 Carter had the lowest Gallup Approval Rating ever recorded for a sitting president.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 05:46 pm
A development concerning "Fortunate Son":

NBC, CBS to DNC: "Cease and Desist" latest attack ad


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Update 6:05 p.m.: Late Thursday (sic - should read "Tuesday") afternoon, NBC News and CBS News requested that that the Democratic National Committee pull the campaign video in question. The DNC, through a spokesman, says that the matter is under consideration.

NBC released a statement Tuesday afternoon. "The Democratic National Committee (DNC) has included an edited excerpt from a Meet the Press interview with President Bush that was broadcast on February 8, 2004 as part of their promotional campaign to be used as a web video and shown in battleground states. NBC News does not authorize its copyrighted footage to be used for partisan political purposes. NBC News did not, and does not, license use of our material for these purposes and we have asked the DNC to cease and desist immediately from using the excerpt."

CBS spokeswoman Sandy Genelius told THE WEEKLY STANDARD late Tuesday afternoon that CBS, like NBC, will demand that the Democratic National Committee stop using CBS News footage in the new ad. "We do not want them to use the video and we are taking it up with them," said Genelius ...
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 07:37 pm
Investor's Daily printed their poll today (could not find it online) which was headlined as Bush losing his after convention bumb and gave a two point lead to Kerry. This is a very conservative rival to the WSJ. Polls, smolls.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 11:11 pm
What the hell are all you neoconservatives kvetching about? When your own game gets shoved back up your behind, you cannot take the heat. The Dixiecrats? Oh my god...

The Dixiecrats of yesterday are the neoconservative boneheads of today. Hasn't anybody been paying attention to the last 60 years of American political history? Does "ideological shift" ring a bell?

And really; the more the rightwingers dish out, the more the leftwingers will dish out, and that's just the disgusting and ugly nature of this game right now. With so much at stake, both parties are going to stoop to unprecendented lows in classic political smear tactics.

Although, right now, the garbage on Bush is getting some rather predominant press, don't ya think?

Swift Boat Vets? WHAT Swift Boat Vets?

Is anybody getting this yet?

And what will the 11th hour strategic move by either party be?

It's gonna be close.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 11:33 pm
Documents are forgery but accusation facts are true
TEXAS GUARD SECRETARY SURFACES: SAYS CBS DOCS 'FORGERIES', BUT STANDS BY ACCUSATIONS AGAINST BUSH

The DRUDGE REPORT has found Lt. Col. Jerry Killian's former secretary who claims that the Texas Air National Guard documents offered by CBS in its 60 MINUTES II report filed by Dan Rather last week are indeed 'forgeries'.

"I did not type these particular memos. I typed memos like these," Knox told the DRUDGE REPORT from her home in Houston.

"I typed memos that had this information in them, but I did not type these memos. There are terms in these memos that are not Guard terms but that are Army terms. They use the word 'Billets'. I think they were using that to refer to the slot. That would be a non-flying slot the way we would use it. And the style... they are sloppy looking."

But Marion Carr Knox stands by the accusations contained in the allegedly fraudulent documents that Bush skirted a medical and flight exam without suffering institutional repercussions.

"The information in these memos is correct -- like Killian's dealing with the problems."

"It was General Staudt, not then Lt. Colonel Hodges [who succeeded Staudt], that was putting on the pressure to whitewash Bush. For instance he didnt take his flight examination or his physical. And the pilots had to take them by their birthdays. Once in a while there would be a reason why a pilot would miss these things because some of them were commercial pilots. But they had to make arrangements to take their exams."


Knox speculated as to how she thought the forgeries were created saying, "My guess is that someone in the outfit got hold of the real ones and discussed it with a former Army person."

Knox worked for the Guard from 1957 until she retired in 1979, and she was Lt. Col. Killian's secretary during the time President Bush served in Texas.

Contacted by the DRUDGE REPORT, Lt. Col. Killian's son Gary, who also served in the unit during the same period, responded: "I know Marion Carr. I remember her as a sweet lady who reminded me then of a dear aunt."

"But if Staudt had put pressure on my dad, there would have been a blow-up -- instantly. It was one of the reasons they got along so well. They had a mutual respect for one another."

"As has been pointed out by so many others, then Col Staudt had been out of the unit for 18 months. And I stand by my previous comments regarding my dad's admiration for Lt. Bush and his regard for him as an officer and pilot -- which was exemplary."

Knox told the DRUDGE REPORT that she did not vote for Bush in 2000 because he is 'unqualified' for the job, and does not intend to vote for him in 2004, either.

"Bush was not the only person of privilege who had a spot in the Guard. Senator [Lloyd] Bensen's nephew was in headquarters. There was a big jewelery store, Gordons. Their son was in the Guard. The owner of Batelstein's, a posh department store in the area, his son was in. The other kids couldn't get in like that. Hugh Roy Cullen's grandson was also in. He was a big oil man."

Knox, however, did have some kind words about then Lt. Bush.

"[Bush] was always pleasant and gentlemanly to me," she said. "I never noticed him not being respectful. I thought he was a nice young man and that he must have had very nice parents to produce a son as nice as he seemed to be."

Knox has been following the story since last week when the 60 MINUTES II broadcast aired, and on Friday she contacted the HOUSTON CHRONICLE wanting to tell her side of the story. Since then the DALLAS MORNING NEWS has also contacted her.

"What really hecked me off was when it was somebody on TV, associated with the White House, who said that all of this information was lies. And I got excited at the time because I knew that I had typed documents with this information because a person like Bush stood out from the others -- because of his association with his father."

Asked about reports that Lt. Col. Killian's wife and son saying he didn't type, Knox stated, "He didn't need to. He had me."


Knox explains that the August 18, 1973 date typed on one of the "forged" documents proves that they were faked. Group Commander Staudt, who allegedly had been putting pressure on Killian, retired in 1972.

To the best of her recollection, Knox explains that Staudt must have put pressure on Killian in 1972 -- the year he retired.

"If my father was going to type a CYA memo, which he didn't," Gary Killian responded. "He would have typed it himself because he wouldn't have wanted anyone to see it. But it's academic because Colonel Staudt had been out of the unit for 18 months -- as is well documented."

Contacted at his office in Bartlett, Texas, former Major Dean Roome, who served with Lt. Bush, responded to the latest information.

"If the memos are fraudulent, then why were they generated? Roome asked.

"Marion Carr Knox is validating what the rest of us are saying. She says once in a while a pilot would miss a physical because some of them were commercial pilots. I was also a commercial pilot with Continental Airlines. The clinic did not just open up for us to take a personal physical. The Flight Surgeons had to be there along with a full complement of medical personnel. We took our physical during the Uniformed Training Assembly (UTA) just like everyone else."

"The 'former Army person' she references is the person we believe may have created the fraudulent documents in an effort to injure President Bush. He has his own agenda and I doubt that he has any 'real ones' [documents].

Ms. Knox states emphatically that she is not acting for political motives, and has no formal relationship with any political party. She says she just wants to set the record straight.

Developing... Drudge Report 9/14/04
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