@chai2,
chai2 wrote:
A moral or ethical person/country is one where a child born is wanted, and cared for. How ethical or morale is it to expend such energy "protecting" a clump of cells, but then after it makes a 6 inch journey is denied an environment with adequate, safety, housing, nutrition, medical care, acceptance by society, etc. How ethical is it that now a woman must take on that unwanted burden? Especially a burden imposed by armchair critics that find it unthinkable to (inaccurately) "flush a baby down a toilet", but do little or nothing to assist either the mother or child afterwards. There is more than enough work to do for actual people in this world. How many people ever say to someone considering an abortion "Have the baby and I will take it and raise it"? Have you? If not, why aren't you? How ethical are you if you just want to stop a person from making a hard choice that will impact her entire life, but you don't take the logical step of taking that burden from her.
BTW, looking back over a few posts, I notice at this moment (might change) someone had thumbed this down.
I find it amusing that my suggesting one take the burden from a woman who is considering abortion, by taking on the future child themselves, is found to be wanting.
What? Oh...no, I don't want the child. She's just got to have it, and want it, or not...but she's got to have it. What happens to the kid then is of much less concern, or any at all...tra la la....I'm off to stop another "murder" Let me just step over all these people I don't want to have to pay for, or personally take care of. Who still may be unwanted for years to come.
If someone doesn't want a woman to have control over their own bodies, then they need to want to take care of the consequences/results.
The following is my opinion personally. One can agree or disagree, but I have no reason to justify it....
It seems there are a lot of people, religious or not, that want to project this entire life scenerio onto a zygote/fetus. Most of them, oddly, seem to have to do with a childs early years, and connecting the mother to it. All these visions of snuggling, birthday parties, first day of school type stuff...with the occassional "what if when s/he grows up they find the cure for cancer?"
Why aren't they envisioning an unwanted child being raised in a myriad of situations where they are aren't loved, abused, condemned to a life of poverty and all that entails? Why aren't they imagining an adult? You know, the adults you see all the time, and consider undesireables. The ones you don't want to look at, or acknowledge their existance, because they are basically, a failed attempt at raising a responsible member of society. It's like some people believe this fetus is in there contemplating it's coming 60 years.
The thing is, if an abortion for an unwanted pregnancy is performed, the aborted fetus has no longing for this life of balloons, ponys and xboxes. No more than it has an adversion to becoming a meth addict, abuser of their own future children, or abused child themselves.
You're not depriving them of, or commiting them to either, or any future. The pregnant woman is the one who has a much better idea of what the future holds in store, not just for her, but the fetus.
These supposedly heart rending imaginings of "oh mommy don't kill me!" are ridiculous. They are simply guilt inducing threats promoting the dumbing down of the mother who is supposed to imagine herself thinking "Oh...I'm so glad I didn't get rid of you. You my everything" When the truth is the vast majority of women who have abortions, while they may feel pensive/sad about that part of their past, are overwhelmingly satisfied with their decision.
Then there's the "you'll regret it" camp. Yeah, what if I do? Whose regret is it? Oh wait, mine, not yours.
I have always found it odd when someone else feels the need to protect me from my own decisions. Where did they apply for that job? When were the interviews held? I wasn't there for any of them, and I think I should have been.