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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
layman
 
  -3  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 05:07 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I’m thinking that a servant of a district meets the majority of their constituents where they are and exerts himself or herself to represent them in Congress to the best of his/her ability.

That district chose Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a legal primaryelection.


Well, that's all pretty general and doesn't really say much but I don't disagree with any of it. But when you get down to specifics it may not sound so good.

For example, suppose there were an inordinate number of shop-lifters in a given district. Let's say that the reason there were so many was because most of the shops were owned by whites, and the non-white populace felt perfectly justified in stealing from them because they had ripped off by whites in the past (or at least thought they had), and were entitled to "get even." So they had no qualms about shoplifting in their stores.

Now, catering to their special needs might mean promising to dismiss all pending shop-lifting charges and to repeal all laws making it a criminal offense in the future. Now what should a candidate do?
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Lash
 
  2  
Sat 21 Jul, 2018 08:34 am
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/14/facebook-election-meddling/

Things we should know—

WHEN MARK ZUCKERBERG was asked if Facebook had influenced the outcome of the 2016 presidential election, the founder and CEO dismissed the notion that the site even had such power as “crazy.” It was a disingenuous remark. Facebook’s website had an entire section devoted to touting the “success stories” of political campaigns that used the social network to influence electoral outcomes. That page, however, is now gone, even as the 2018 congressional primaries get underway.

before-and-after-3-1521053013 Facebook screenshots from June 2017, left, and March 2018, right, show that the social network removed its “Government and Politics” section. Screenshots: Facebook
In the wake of a public reckoning with Facebook’s unparalleled ability to distribute information and global anxiety over election meddling, bragging about the company’s ability to run highly effective influence campaigns probably doesn’t look so great.
Facebook’s “success stories” page is a monument to the company’s dominance of online advertising, providing examples from almost every imaginable industry of how use of the social network gave certain players an advantage. “Case studies like these inspire and motivate us,” the page crows. Current examples include CoverGirl (“promoting a beauty brand makeover with video ads on Facebook and Instagram”) and Tropicana (“Facebook video ads elevate fruit juice brand awareness”). Not so controversial.

The case studies that Facebook used to list from political campaigns, however, included more interesting claims. Facebook’s work with Florida’s Republican Gov. Rick Scott “used link ads and video ads to boost Hispanic voter turnout in their candidate’s successful bid for a second term, resulting in a 22% increase in Hispanic support and the majority of the Cuban vote.” Facebook’s work with the Scottish National Party, a political party in the U.K., was described as “triggering a landslide.”

The “success stories” drop-down menu that once included an entire section for “Government and Politics” is now gone. Pages for the individual case studies, like the Scott campaign and SNP, are still accessible through their URLs, but otherwise seem to have been delisted.

Asked about the delisting, a Facebook spokesperson said that “a number of the studies have been archived, but they’re still available at the individual links.” Asked why the “Government and Politics” section had been removed entirely, the spokesperson did not reply.
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Lash
 
  1  
Sat 21 Jul, 2018 09:14 pm
It appears that whistleblower Julian Assange will be released to the UK. I hope the UK doesn’t extradite him here.

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/21/ecuador-will-imminently-withdraw-asylum-for-julian-assange-and-hand-him-over-to-the-uk-what-comes-next/
glitterbag
 
  1  
Sat 21 Jul, 2018 09:25 pm
@Lash,
He hasn't been charged with a crime, there is no compelling reason for him to be extradited to the US.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Sat 21 Jul, 2018 11:13 pm
@glitterbag,
He's been accused of rape and is due for questioning in Sweden. Assange's fear was that following that court case, which he claims is politically motivated, Sweden will extradite him to America.

After all the scandal over Britain's role in extraordinary rendition extraditing anyone to America is problematic.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 22 Jul, 2018 12:04 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
It appears that whistleblower Julian Assange will be released to the UK.
Ecuador's president wants to withdraw Assange's asylum.

Assange has lived in the Ecuadorian embassy in the UK for over six years. He had fled there to avoid arrest and extradition to Sweden on charges of rape. The Swedish judiciary closed its investigation in May last year.
However, the British authorities stated that they would arrest him anyway when he left the embassy - because he had violated the law by fleeing to the embassy.

There is no arrest warrant (and therefore no request for extradition) from the USA, but the British arrest warrant is still valid.
roger
 
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Sun 22 Jul, 2018 12:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Well then, he needs another embassy, doesn't he?
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 12:55 am
@roger,
Would be a bit difficult to move there.
roger
 
  1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 12:58 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Good point. Maybe they don't want him, anyway.
Lash
 
  1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 01:13 am
I’m concerned that he’ll be assassinated.
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 02:39 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
I’m concerned that he’ll be assassinated.
By the UK's police or before by embassy staff?
eurocelticyankee
 
  2  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 02:53 am
Did he ever release any Russian e-mails? any of say Putin's private e-mails.
Any dirt on Russian agencies or policies?.
Lash
 
  1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 03:01 am
@Walter Hinteler,
By the US.
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 03:03 am
@Lash,
And where? In the embassy or when he will be under custody of the UK's authorities?
Lash
 
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Sun 22 Jul, 2018 04:45 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Now that the safety around him is weakening, at any time, but more so , after he’s out of the embassy. “Killed in an attack in the prison population”; “Assange fell ill and didn’t respond to medical treatment”; Assange was killed during an escape attempt.”
Olivier5
 
  1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 04:56 am
@Lash,
Well yes, it could happen. But I trust the Brits to deal with him fairly. They've habeas corpused for longer than the rest of us.
Lash
 
  1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 05:06 am
@Olivier5,
The UK seems to be less corrupt, and more about their actual business than other world players, but any outfit can be infiltrated. Just watching and hoping at this point.
Lash
 
  1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 05:08 am
@roger,
Nobody wants him because of extraordinary pressure the US uses to get their hands on him. He’s provided information that has wracked US society.
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Olivier5
 
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Sun 22 Jul, 2018 05:52 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

The UK seems to be less corrupt, and more about their actual business than other world players, but any outfit can be infiltrated. Just watching and hoping at this point.

You couldn't be more wrong. The UK intell agencies and the US are synced. No need for infiltration, if it's the US you have in mind. As for the Russians, they have no reason (?) to want Assange dead.
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maporsche
 
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Sun 22 Jul, 2018 06:41 am
@eurocelticyankee,
eurocelticyankee wrote:

Did he ever release any Russian e-mails? any of say Putin's private e-mails.
Any dirt on Russian agencies or policies?.


I would love to see myself some Bernie Sanders emails and of course the Trump ones.

Just show everyone emails, c’mon.
 

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